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New theories about free energy systems => The Aether => Topic started by: tinyCoder on September 10, 2014, 09:51:09 AM
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Hello people on the other side of the earth. May God bless you and your work you do to make this planet better for living.
I want to share some ideas with you about a new device which we found it working, and better to generate power without using any other sources like sun or wind power, or even magnets. It is only aether.
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Aetheric Battery, as the inventor named it, is a revolutionary device which has not any moving pieces ... and it's electrical power generation continuing forever! It depends on two main ideas, the pyramid power and the electro-dynamic power of water, which i will explain in steps later.
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It is very easy to build and has no electric circuits or such complex attachments.
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We are translating this project to English and trying to share it ASAP.
Down there I posted some links from our website, you can use the (G) button in the header to translate the pages meanwhile we come with the full translation of this project so soon, but to be honest we needed to share some subtitles with you to know how do you interact with such kind of topics here.
Here is a video showing the device (In Arabic): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57QUZ2-J5xc
Here is a description in our website to this device: http://alpha-sci.org/showthread.php?t=50
And here is a full description about building this device step by step: http://alpha-sci.org/showthread.php?t=1372
Another friend from Iraq build it successfully: http://alpha-sci.org/showthread.php?t=1576
This device has two versions as the inventor said, and it provides a high ampere ready to use without any modifications, the small prototype you see in the images provides 12 to 15 volts, bigger sizes can generate clean 220 volts with high ampere too.
Getting back soon.
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Interesting. Do the pyramids really make a difference in power output if pyramids shapes are not used?
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That's a very steady current.are you sure there's no galvanic corrosion action here
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Interesting. Do the pyramids really make a difference in power output if pyramids shapes are not used?
Hello dear "Void".
Well, the inventor said that he removed the pyramids in the second version of the device (which i didn't reach yet), but in this first version we used the unlimited low-frequency oscillation of pyramids to affect and order the water molecules (ORMUS WATER which is more sensitive to such tiny vibrations of pyramid power) which in the Lyden Jars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyden_jar), so it means we can use sound vibrations instead of pyramids.. but this will cost energy, and this is something we don't want in a FREE ENERGY DEVICE. The whole idea depends on the "Vegetative Growth Of Power".
See attached file, coming soon with more details.
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That's a very steady current.are you sure there's no galvanic corrosion action here
Hey dear "profitis".
I don't think there is, the Lyden Jars charges a water battery (with mineral slices) which is connected to both jars, an electrical charge starts to materialize in a specific time depends on the sensitivity of ORMUS water and the size of pyramids and some other things will be explained later.
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Thank you tinycoder!
Wow really a interesting theory. Simple and seem not difficult to replicate. I will really like to have the "how to built it" pdf in a more universal language like english.
Waiting to see more information.
Thank again!
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Interesting @ coder.scientificly speaking it appears to be gathering AND rectifying johnson noise somehow and storing it on the plates while it discharges (must be very fast charge accumulation).can you give an idea of the power density on this device? The continual current density is really the important thing here because it will tell us if that is johnson noise or not.
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Thank you tinycoder!
Wow really a interesting theory. Simple and seem not difficult to replicate. I will really like to have the "how to built it" pdf in a more universal language like english.
Waiting to see more information.
Thank again!
Hey "wistiti"!
Yes it really is, I'm trying to do my best translating and creating a well-spelled step by step PDF book in English ASAP.
Thank you.
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Interesting @ coder.scientificly speaking it appears to be gathering AND rectifying johnson noise somehow and storing it on the plates while it discharges (must be very fast charge accumulation).can you give an idea of the power density on this device? The continual current density is really the important thing here because it will tell us if that is johnson noise or not.
Well, dear.
I don't know so much about "johnson noise", I read some about it on Wikipedia just now but didn't understand so much, the problem is that I'm not specialized in electronics, I couldn't understand your question very well but I promise to try my best explaining all the details about our experiment and then I think you'll find the answers after all.
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Yes @coder Johnson noise is random sound or random radio waves.it will be easy to see if it is this because there will be fluctuation of current.I'm not expecting much from random sound noise,perhaps one or two microamp in heavy fluctuation going on and off.radio waves a little bit more,also heavy fluctuation.
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Hello
I`ll like to ask if the base showed in the picture (post 4) is made of concrete or it is a granite slab.
The reason of this question, is because of the close relationship of pyramids and granite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite#Natural_radiation
thanks
Alvaro
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You Have Got To Be Kidding Me.
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pure uranium cake will get 2 microamps not potassium no ways.
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Linda Moulton Howe of "Earthfiles" has discovered an under ground pyramid in Alaska between Denali and Nome that can supply enough power to run the entire country of Canada!
http://www.earthfiles.com/headlines.php?category=Archives (http://www.earthfiles.com/headlines.php?category=Archives)
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Hello everyone.
Here I attached a file with some general descriptions and details.
I wish that the translation is good enough to be understood, I did my best.
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Incredible.this will put duracell out of buisness those are filament bulbs. Must be around 20 milliamps! Hard hard to believe @coder did you see this thing in action before?
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Thank you tinycoder for your hard and great work!
Dont worry, my mother thong is not English and i well understand what you translate. ;) Good job!
Waithing for the rest .
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Incredible.this will put duracell out of buisness those are filament bulbs. Must be around 20 milliamps! Hard hard to believe @coder did you see this thing in action before?
Hi Profitis,
The bulb would need around 200mA for its size.
I am not too happy about using salt water which would errode copper&zinc electrode.
we need to find out if using these 2 electrode with salt water would produce similar output.
If it is similar output then the experiment shown in video is bullshit but not fake.haha.
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Linda Moulton Howe of "Earthfiles" has discovered an under ground pyramid in Alaska between Denali and Nome that can supply enough power to run the entire country of Canada!
http://www.earthfiles.com/headlines.php?category=Archives (http://www.earthfiles.com/headlines.php?category=Archives)
Very interesting and intriguing web page. Linda Moulton Howe sounds kind of robotic in her interviews. She seems like a good hearted alien person. Although her research could have influenced the way of speaking but her intentions are about opening eyes.
This is kind of strange to me because from other people that do UFO research speak in a similar monotone robotic way to which i wonder if they are using text-to-speech software but they are not...take for example pipus films in youtube.com... he speaks in spanish but his voice sounds robotic....http://www.youtube.com/user/djpipus/videos example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxSMUHnf8T0 .....robotic voice.
I believe it's only a matter of time.
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Yeaaaaah mags.but the document says both plates are stainless steel.so let's put our science-logic cap on and try figure this.we have 2 leyden jars feeding 2 steel plates submerged in water.now let's take your typical leyden jar power (kilovolts + nanofarads) and convert and see if we can get farads + 2.5 volt? Where's les banki?
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Yeaaaaah mags.but the document says both plates are stainless steel.so let's put our science-logic cap on and try figure this.we have 2 leyden jars feeding 2 steel plates submerged in water.now let's take your typical leyden jar power (kilovolts + nanofarads) and convert and see if we can get farads + 2.5 volt? Where's les banki?
hi profitis and everyone,
I have added my findings below.
I just noticed both plates are stainless steel,strange.
But a photo in the middle of web page shows zinc/copper.It was misleading before doing translation.Interesting experiment.
I finally understood what is happening once i saw this sentence after translation-
"exposing the water to the sound vibrations or magnetic fields (mobile or fixed), or even specific electromagnetic fields."
I have done research in the past related to water which is related to healing.Yes healing.
There was a research done in Taiwan where a scientist proof that water is able to store memory.
For example if you have done research in wicca or occult there is also a part which is related to charging the water.
Before you drink the water you send thought to the water with the intention to heal.
If you think holy water is fake .Then look harder at the molecular level
At the molecular level under the microscope there will be tiny crystal formed in the water as discovered by the Taiwan scientist."Water memory" if i recall correctly.
If you studied little about minerals eg:quartz the main portion is "fossilized water".
I think what the scientist in the middle east have done is "energised the water" with certain vibration.The water will retain and produce the vibration like eg: holy water.
The water combine with the pyramid and the necessary connection provides power to the bulb.
Let you know the history of battery "The first battery was discovered in Iraq 1200 years ago.It was used in electroplating.The source of power is lemon juice."
Another more wierd discovery in China there was this 2000 year old grave where a ancient walkman was discovered.The device source of power is smokey quartz and it is connected to the ear with a ancient headphone via copper wire.The scientist whom cleaned the device found that it was still working after 2000 years.It was producing Chinese funeral like music.
(I was trying to find the picture of this device for ages.The article first appeared in my newspaper more than 20 years ago which there is a section for foreign news.)
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Incredible.this will put duracell out of buisness those are filament bulbs. Must be around 20 milliamps! Hard hard to believe @coder did you see this thing in action before?
Hey profitis,
The glass version is not powerful enough but built to show the structure of the device, the gypsum one (about 6 to 7 cells in the wet battery) could light 2 bulbs of 6 volts and 5 watts.
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Hi Profitis,
The bulb would need around 200mA for its size.
I am not too happy about using salt water which would errode copper&zinc electrode.
we need to find out if using these 2 electrode with salt water would produce similar output.
If it is similar output then the experiment shown in video is bullshit but not fake.haha.
Hello magpwr,
NO SALT WATER HERE AT ALL.
Just clean and powerful water processed with ORMUS TRAPPERS to be more sensitive to the low-frequency waves of pyramids as descriped in the file.
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Let me try to get to the scientific fundamentals here guys.kelvin's water dropper and leyden jars are capable of accumulating thousands of volts.the question is: what is going to happen if we put thousands of volts across two plates in water?what is generating the static charge at such a fast pace?
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Thank you profitis.
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Does it work anywhere anytime coder?
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Does it work anywhere anytime coder?
Yes dear, anytime and anywhere, but as the inventor advised, it should be isolated from any electronic or magnetic waves, or to move around it, that's because the devices stops working when the aetheric field around it is turbid, and noticed that the energy grows in it and increases to a specific amount depending on some conditions I previously told you about.
And one strange thing also, he said that if the load is bigger than what the device can handle (means trying to put 3 bulbs instead of 2) then all the three will stop lighting, and as we all know this should not happen in the normal experiment as the three bulbs should light on but their lighting intensity will decrease.. but that did not happen.
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Thank you coder.it means when you put the 3rd bulb in a row the voltage across the steel plates drops to below electrolysis voltage sustainability.those bulbs are being powered by a inverted electrolysis/ fuel cell.they are leaking the charge off the fuel cell while electrolysis proceeds.this is one way to convert high voltage/low amps to low voltage/high amps at an extremely high efficiency.the question remains:what is charging the leyden jars at such a pace
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the question remains:what is charging the leyden jars at such a pace
No, this small version took about few days to start producing the energy.
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@tinyCoder:
I read the file http://www.overunity.com/14922/aetheric-battery-new-free-energy-source-from-aether/dlattach/attach/142494/ (http://www.overunity.com/14922/aetheric-battery-new-free-energy-source-from-aether/dlattach/attach/142494/) and I have a few questions, see the attached drawing.
Greetings, Conrad
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@tinyCoder:
I read the file http://www.overunity.com/14922/aetheric-battery-new-free-energy-source-from-aether/dlattach/attach/142494/ (http://www.overunity.com/14922/aetheric-battery-new-free-energy-source-from-aether/dlattach/attach/142494/) and I have a few questions, see the attached drawing.
Greetings, Conrad
Metal... Mineral .... maybe the translation of me is not good enough, but the one you are asking about is copper, and it is covering the jar. The green cylinder is a normal water tube filled with gypsum and it plays the part of the salt bridge in the normal battery.
Sorry, think I should be more clear in the next part of translation.
Getting back soon.
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@tinyCoder:
May be you can come back about this topic as well, see the attached drawing?
Greetings, Conrad
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Well well, I see what is starting to happen here.
I'll do what I need to do anyway to clarify every detail, then it will be up to everyone to believe or not, and meanwhile, you can take a look at the rest of this "myth".
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These are a rough bunch here coder they will put you on trial and try to crucify you my friend but if you are confident to reveal details that are repeatable by others then it will be greatly appreciated.if you look at my karpen thread you will see that they were powerless against transparent scientific fact. You say that it at takes some time to charge up to the breaking electrolysis point,so it appears to want to accumulate charge up to a point correct? Does this mean that while powering a bulb it can interrupt power supply by drainage and the lightbulb suddenly go off?
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@tinyCoder: thank you for replying. I hope you understand that people (and me) are sceptic, because you make an extraordinary claim which needs extraordinary clarity to understand it.
What I see so far:
- There are at lest two metals involved (copper and the other is may be steel) and the two metals are connected by "Ormus water". Could you please clarify what metals there are and how they are connected by water (water in the jars and water through a pipe to some glass tube)?
- Ormus water is an esoteric term, fine. Could you specify from where you got the water before it became Ormus water? (I suppose it came from the public water supply?)
- It is very important to establish in as much normal electrolysis comes into play. That will be the first thought coming to the mind of a sceptic, so you will have to address that very methodically. First, just specify what metals come into contact with the "Ormus water" and all the places (jars, tubes, other containers like where I see steel plates) where "Ormus water" can be found in the contraption.
The better details you give, the more people will stay in the discussion and might even build something. At the moment, frankly, you explanations are very feeble and incoherent. The tread will soon wither away if you keep going like that.
Greetings, Conrad
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@tinyCoder: thank you for replying. I hope you understand that people (and me) are sceptic, because you make an extraordinary claim which needs extraordinary clarity to understand it.
What I see so far:
- There are at lest two metals involved (copper and the other is may be steel) and the two metals are connected by "Ormus water". Could you please clarify what metals there are and how they are connected by water (water in the jars and water through a pipe to some glass tube)?
- Ormus water is an esoteric term, fine. Could you specify from where you got the water before it became Ormus water? (I suppose it came from the public water supply?)
- It is very important to establish in as much normal electrolysis comes into play. That will be the first thought coming to the mind of a sceptic, so you will have to address that very methodically. First, just specify what metals come into contact with the "Ormus water" and all the places (jars, tubes, other containers like where I see steel plates) where "Ormus water" can be found in the contraption.
The better details you give, the more people will stay in the discussion and might even build something. At the moment, frankly, you explanations are very feeble and incoherent. The tread will soon wither away if you keep going like that.
Greetings, Conrad
hi,
"Ormus water" this is something which did not exist in the past.This is new to me.
All i know there is such thing as "Ormus gold powder which exist as white powder" which was found at certain excavation sites in Egypt.This was used by high priest or sorcerer to enhance Psychic ability.
It was to be placed under the tongue in tiny amount.
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Hi
my personal opinion is at this point is to let Tinycoder finish the translation of the information of this device. After that every one can replicate it at low cost and then ask question and comment whit the result they have and elaborete theories...
In this kind of forum it is became a rare thing to see people how share the work they do with elaborate information and ask nothing in return...
For me it speak a lot!
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Hello,
retired scientist Dr. Milewski explains his model of ORMUS-Atoms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efZ_661eXiQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efZ_661eXiQ)
Ormus can be gained from either seawater or ordinary tapwater: Vortex and magnetic trap
http://www.scribd.com/doc/77393734/Magnetic-ORMUS-Vortex-Trap (http://www.scribd.com/doc/77393734/Magnetic-ORMUS-Vortex-Trap)
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/m-seeps.htm (http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/m-seeps.htm)
Dr Milewski´s magnetic trap-design:
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/traps/ttplans.htm (http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/traps/ttplans.htm)
Regards
Kator01
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Guys the only important thing is the ph of that water.if its acid then it will corrode steel.if its neutral then its not really a problem.if its alkaline then its not a problem.if there's 2 different metals contacting the water then its a huge problem.the pdf indicates that both plates of the accumulator are steel so I don't imagine how this can power a lightbulb.we need more info
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Metal... Mineral .... maybe the translation of me is not good enough, but the one you are asking about is === copper ===, and it is covering the jar. The green cylinder is a normal water tube filled with === gypsum === and it plays the part of the salt bridge in the normal battery.
Sorry, think I should be more clear in the next part of translation.
Getting back soon.
The quote is the reason I am waffling about two metals, there are steel plates, silvery metals and now we hear there is also copper. Copper is not silvery!
It should be possible to list how many metals are present and where. I should be possible to specified where the Ormus water is and how all vessels (jars, little hoses, green cylinder) are connected with wires and little water hoses.
"Normal water" from the tap is good enough to cause electrolysis if two different metals are present, even in different vessels, as long as water can flow from one vessel to the other. But Gypsum can cause acidity, it is calcium sulphate, CaSO4.
May be tinyCoder can telt us from which language he is translating from. He could be helped. This forum has members with many different mother tongues.
So, we have
- two metals (copper and something silvery, may be steel),
- water in several connected vessels (jars, little hoses, green cylinder) and
- an acid from CaSO4 (from the gypsum).
You will allow me to guess what it is! Of course vibrations from the pyramids are not ruled out. Also Ormus is a god worth being worshipped. A god can cause miracles.
Greetings, Conrad
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Acidity of gypsum is negligible @conrad.calcium sulphate is essentialy neutral.its the soluble salts in the water that I'm curious about if there are any
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Physically I can't help you to know the secret of the water with more than I told, but it has clear specifications, if you do your research about ORMUS water (Before extracting the ORMUS as powder) and the Magnetic Atoms you might understand what the whole idea is about, the main source you need is from a book called "Changing the Universe, Introducing The AD 2000 Æther Theory" by the Australian physicist "Robert Lanigan-O'Keeffe", chapter 20 has everything in physical details. But all I can tell you with my simple understanding is that the water used here is an ordinary water processed in tubes with magnetic rings to trap the ORMUS in it, and is generally known worldwide and a lot of people use many tools to do that, check these links:
http://happyhillspringwater.com/Ormuswater.htm
http://tesla3.com/free_websites/ormus_traps.html
http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/longtrap.htm
And to know more about the "Vegetative Growth of Energy", and the water.. I attached a section from the same book I told you about, CHAPTER TEN "ENERGY - FORMS AND THE SCIENCES", take a look at it please.
The metals used are only steel plates (in the wet battery) and copper papers covering the jars and taking the part of the other pole in the jar from inside, The wet battery idea is similar to the car battery (attached: Capture0) and i think that is Volta's Pile design. (Capture1) shows how the jars connected with battery, (Capture2) and (Capture3) shows the water cells structure, (Capture4) is a clear design of the device.
conradelektro, I'm translating from my language "ARABIC", keep asking but please be patient, more coming in details, everyone has the right to be skeptic but I hope we all keep doing well with each other as we are not in a challenge here, I believe we really need to help each other to find out something really useful from all this we have here.
Godspeed.
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What happens if you use tapwater coder
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Hello,
ORMUS is a difficult topic and not a scientific one, so I was providing you the links of Dr. Milewski as an hopefully serious source of information.
Here we have chap 20 mentioned by coder:
http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Science/OKOriginal/web/Chap20.html (http://www.hereticpress.com/Dogstar/Science/OKOriginal/web/Chap20.html)
By the way @profitis, did I show you Dr. Pollacks work:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGCMQ8TJ_g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnGCMQ8TJ_g)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqHWueBp23c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqHWueBp23c)
His Website: http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/ (http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/)
Kator01
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Hi kator they won't allow me to view those on my mobile so I have yet to see it at an internet cafe.must be something good in there if you want me to see it.what do you make of this leyden jar setup that coder has shown here kator.you are one of the best electrolysis expert here so you should be able to see if anything adding up here?
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hey profitis,
too bad that you can not view the vids. It is an absolut must-see especially for you. Have you acess to the website of Dr. Pollack ?
There was an extract of his book you can get it dowloaded here:
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0161/7154/files/FOURTH_PHASE_SAMPLE.pdf?1585 (http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0161/7154/files/FOURTH_PHASE_SAMPLE.pdf?1585)
Can you see the picture ( still-foto of the vid ) here ? http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-science/ (http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-science/)
and here : http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-based-technology/ (http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-based-technology/)
Light is creating a different structure of water-layers ( ( hexagonal ) at the close proximity of hydrophilic surfaces, even at the border to air ( the bugs which run on water..there you can see then membran-like-structure..http://www.natur-lexikon.com/Texte/MZ/001/00067-Wasserlaeufer/MZ00067-Wasserlaeufer.html (http://www.natur-lexikon.com/Texte/MZ/001/00067-Wasserlaeufer/MZ00067-Wasserlaeufer.html)) , in his demontrations Nafion is used. This structure is similar to the graphene-strukuture but composed only by oxygen and hydrogen atoms.
He has named it EZ-Water ( Exclusion-Zone) because any contamination wihin normal bulk-water will be driven out of this EZ-zone if it builds up in stacked layers. This EZ-Zone has a definite absorption of 270 nm which is a good indication for this hexagonal ring-structure. And it carries negative charge leaving the rest of the bulk-water charged positive ( ph-measurement and current measurements have been performed.
Normally the people in the audience should have jumped out of their chairs to give a standing ovation .... but nothing of this sort of reaction...nevertheless he has summed up a lot of knowledge from the past and combined it with his experimental based knowledge.
Hope this might give you some idea, but I have to confess that I am sceptical about this pyramid thing especially after the Trawöger-fraud and will not actively analyse unless there is a clear cut description of all elements involved.
No, profitis, I am not an expert in electrolysis I just have followed and tutored many developments and did sientific based research of the basis for HHO-generation and this process is still developing fast in different directions if you take into account the findings of Dr. Pollack.
Write me a pm so I know where you live and can find ways how to supply more information about new findings about the newest development in this topic.
Regards
Kator01
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I got to see some of pollak on tubidy.com thanks kator.the exclusion zone much resembles guoy-chapman or helmholts electrostatic bounderies and specificly reminded me of DONNAN EXCLUSION and DONNAN POTENTIAL which appears at membranes and ion exchange resins.donnan exclusion I have found to give very interesting results indeed in certain experiments.yes I think the coder gadget described here appears to be much too high power density to be believable but I'm always intrigue,somtimes I get new ideas in a flash of inspiration from the 'uncertainty' stuff here too lol.
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I sent a pm kator hope you got it
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I sent a pm kator hope you got it
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gentlemen
If you take the trouble to read the web page linked in the first post, even through the dumb G translator,you fill find some clarity.
1 Special interest in AVOIDING electrolysis (or whatever chemical reaction thereof)
2 Separation of polarities via two Leyden jars interconnected
3 Use of treated water, to get a water molecule alignment, sensitive to low frequencies
4 Use of the pyramid geometry to bias the water and collect the electrostatic charges in to the leyden jars.
I don`t know if this is correct (TinyCoder will say) and do not know if the device works as stated, but until TinyCoder exposes all details, further speculation is worthless.(IMHO)
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@kator do you have any ion exchange membrane on you at hand right now
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hello
@profitis unfortunately I have no membrane available. I am focused on different topics but always keep an eye on anything new
coming up.
I will give you a bit more insight into my work via mail.
But one thing I can state here: I am pretty sure that the EZ-Water is different from the Helmholz-double-barrier.
I would dare to say that EZ is the basis for building the Helmholz Layer. EZ is not dependent of external voltage-application.
The EZ Layers grow by light ! Once formed charges are seperated. EZ becomes negative, normal bulkwater positive.
ph tests also confirmed this.
So by light shining on water a water-battery is created. See picture " A charged battery in water"
http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-based-technology/ (http://faculty.washington.edu/ghp/research-themes/water-based-technology/)
At the left side the negative zone is limited by the Nafion-membrane. But Nafion is too expensive otrher hydrophilic surfaces
must work also.
Kator01
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The metals used are only === steel plates (in the wet battery) and copper papers covering the jars === and taking the part of the other pole in the jar from inside, The wet battery idea is similar to the car battery (attached: Capture0) and i think that is Volta's Pile design. (Capture1) shows how the jars connected with battery, (Capture2) and (Capture3) shows the water cells structure, (Capture4) is a clear design of the device.
conradelektro, I'm translating from my language "ARABIC", keep asking but please be patient, more coming in details, everyone has the right to be skeptic but I hope we all keep doing well with each other as we are not in a challenge here, I believe we really need to help each other to find out something really useful from all this we have here.
Godspeed.
@tinyCoder: just to make sure that I understand you correctly:
Possibility one: There are steel plates and copper paper in one and the same generator?
Possibility two: There a steel plates in one type of Generator and there is copper paper in an other type of Generator?
Translating from arabic is not that easy. There are several dialects of "Arabic". Do you mean the Arabic of the holy Koran?
An other question: who has built the two pyramid contraptions on the photos posted by you? Have you built them? If it is not you, can you talk to the Person who built them?
About the challenge:
If someone makes an extraordinary claim, he is challenging the world to believe him. So, the challenge comes from you and the world (e.g. me) is reacting to the challenge. Your claim puts into question many scientific facts which people (e.g. me) have learned. And these scientific facts have been established by the greatest minds ever present on this world in the last few centuries. Your claims are very controversial.
I personally have no problem with controversial claims. And you should not have a problem with people reacting strongly (with scorn, or ridicule, or at least with not believing). Your best course of action (if you want some one to believe your claims) is clarity and precise specifications. Most people will only believe if they can replicate and replication is only possible if the facts are presented in a clear and understandable way. I think you get the idea:
1) Best, you first specify just one generator, the one which works best.
2) Start with a complete list of materials which are needed to construct it. This should be little work and you could post this complete list of materials soon.
3) Then (after it is clear what materials are needed) you concentrate on construction advice.
4) And much later, after the one generator has been replicated you can go on to other types of this generator (which probably needs a different list of materials).
In the past such claims as yours faded away after several months because no useful information was forthcoming.
Greetings, Conrad
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Aha @kator you are partially correct.but you are underestimating the enormous forces of electrostatic exclusion.the polywater molecules are much like a polymer resin ie they are less mobile than the bulk phase and they have tethered poles of charge much like ion exchange resin giving rise to a compromise between the pull of the diffusion gradient and the counterpull of electrostatic gradient.a donnan potential requires absolute zero light input to manifest and is completely spontaneous.if you can get a-hold of some ion exchange membrane we can make history right here right now.I will tell you how
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yey profitis,
you are the expert..I even do not know the term "donnan". From what I know there are always some free H+ Ions present in water
and they will vent through the membrane and build up a potential. Why they vent trough I do not know.
But we have to wait until you have seen the presentation of Dr.Pollack.
In the meantime I will learn somthing about the donnan-potential
Kator01
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Here is the simplest illustration of the donnan equilibrium and the mathmatical representation of the donnan potential kator.notice that it is identical to the nernst equasion.
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Thank you all here.
Dear Conrad, you are totally right, and this is can be said in any community no matter what language does it speak, I know how strange these ideas are but i'm not here to make a suspense story, I'm here to share an idea i found, and I told you many times that i'm working on the translation but I just posted few details to know how will you all react about this thread here.
I'm translating from pure Arabic which is my mother language, so don't worry about that, I'm just having some problems searching for the best scientific terms to use but I'll get that in the best way I can.
And no, this device was not built by me, and I had no contact with the inventor from few years ago, but he left us all what we need and many of us tried to build it, some of us failed, and others succeeded, I was from the first group and I knew where my mistakes were but before taking my next step to rebuild.. I'm sharing. And in these 7 pages (http://alpha-sci.org/showthread.php?t=1372) you'll find the photos we captured to our job.
So as I said everyone has the right to doubt, but let me follow the steps you gave me and give all the information I can to you and then we can try together to understand how this device is working scientifically, I trust the inventor, he has no reason to lie and even no intentions to make EXTRAORDINARY SHOWS, he destroyed the device as you saw to avoid such seductions and to upgrade the device to work better, the last time I had contact with him he told that he could run the device without using the pyramids and without any external source of energy, and he totally could give scientific proofs about how this is all working.. and said there is a second version of the device coming out soon, but that "soon" never came till now.
So, we brought the old designs we have and started again. If any of you want to join, we'll be happy to profit from you.
Godspeed.
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So he gave no indication of the scientific principal behind it coder? That is enormous power density it would definitely require a massively fast accumulation of charge
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@ Tiny coder
how does go the translation?
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Well well, I see what is starting to happen here.
I'll do what I need to do anyway to clarify every detail, then it will be up to everyone to believe or not, and meanwhile, you can take a look at the rest of this "myth".
:)
RomeroUK again?
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:)
RomeroUK again?
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@ plengo
Sorry i dont understand.... :-\
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what happened to this scam? is it over? how comes no upgrades were made lately?
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Hi Tinycoder.
I have made some discoveries about how to increase the intensity of energy out of a pyramid, perhaps you would be interested in my discoveries?
See if it works with your methods.