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Author Topic: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.  (Read 99396 times)

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #255 on: September 26, 2015, 01:50:21 PM »
Both George's hoax videos rival "Verproject" for their cleverness. R.P.M. is no measure of torque. Rotor pressured slip is. Rotor speed and voltage are fixed, only current can vary. Pumping water with the wash tub synchronous motor requires much more amperage then merely moving an unloaded rotor. How much pressure does it take to slow the rotor down? The pressure required to stop the rotor is directly proportional to it's amperage. This is a measure of torque. The rotor's turning at a constant 60 hertz regardless of the amount of amperage it's using. The lower the amp draw the easier the rotor slips.

These finding's don't mean the sine wave motor is unreasonable.   

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #255 on: September 26, 2015, 01:50:21 PM »

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #256 on: September 29, 2015, 06:01:11 PM »
Look how these two drain motor coil cores power a hard drive with 60 hertz A.C.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHgw_l-Z_s0

Multiple rotor magnets may multiply frequency this way to exceed the CMF threshold with identical twin output coils, and eight rotor magnets. Enough N.S. rotor magnets on the disk would cause a propulsion force from the pickup coil cores.

It would take two rotors one over the other, with two magnets on the lower power rotor and six on the upper output. The output coils would need to be on the upper level with the 6 N.S. magnets. This would multiply the CMF by 3.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #257 on: September 29, 2015, 07:05:19 PM »
Simply mounting a rotor wheel with N.S. magnets on the drain motor impellor and tapping the output from the side with another core coil would multiply the frequency over CMF for the propulsion effect.

The drain motor core coils can be used to pickup like Roberts33 shows from the side 90 degrees from the original rotor orientation.

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« Reply #257 on: September 29, 2015, 07:05:19 PM »
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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #258 on: October 09, 2015, 06:23:49 PM »
George Chaniotakis runs three synchronous A.C. carousel motors in series; power diminishes with additional motors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7mYsCEHLus

This is the same illusion. The series coils raise the impedance and restrict the current flow. The real test would involve determining how much pressure it would take to make the rotor slip. It looks like the 3 motors are doing the same work when it would only take a fraction of the pressure to make the rotor slip! Torque shy rotating turntable motors.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #259 on: November 03, 2015, 04:11:36 PM »
Take a look at Lidmotor's "Zero Force Motor". I covered the effect of Lenz reduction from re-positioning the coil at 90 degrees earlier in this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAYnppXT6NE

It's plain to see that the coil poles are on the vertical plain, directed up and down away from the diametric spinner by 90 degrees! Lidmotor is overunity, reading zero input, with Maggie for load!

John Bedini is an avid fan of mine.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #260 on: November 03, 2015, 06:32:06 PM »
Here's John Bedini's latest "Zero Force Motor" version: His scope shot shows no "Sine Wave" whatsoever; Therefore zero counter EMF:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQzcYZk9MWA

One of my quotes from September 2nd 2015:

"This is the correct direction for the fluctuating field to generate current in the coil wraps. The question is; How can "Lenz Drag" effect the rotor when the coil wraps are slipping the field facing sideways"?
« Last Edit: November 03, 2015, 09:22:04 PM by synchro1 »

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« Reply #261 on: November 03, 2015, 11:48:41 PM »
Lidmotor shows us his circuit schematic in this video. A second coil positioned the same way on the other side of the magnet spinner for output should equal COP=1. Additional output from his Maggie satellite alternator may take it overunity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ob914aCKw
« Last Edit: November 04, 2015, 04:25:21 AM by synchro1 »

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« Reply #262 on: November 04, 2015, 06:37:41 AM »
The picture below from JLN is just to help visualize the concept. Look at the rings inside the core of the coil form. Imagine a bearingless tube magnet spinning inside the center of the rings where coils would be positioned as the rings are; One coil a bifilar Bedini power coil wired as Lidmoter's SSG, and the remaining seven, output coils, all "Lenz Free"!

The coil poles form on the perpendicular to the permanent magnet field, so they can't cause trouble like they would if they were facing the magnet spinner.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #263 on: November 04, 2015, 06:42:43 PM »
John Bedini points out in his "Zero Force Motor" video that a plastic ring could be wrapped with horizontal coils for his "Reed Switch" version. An even better approach would involve the same pattern, but with one coil a bifilar SSG power coil; The remainder, single wire for output along with a diametric tube spinner. This eliminates the timing problem and solves the output delivery issue. This version is definitely a very powerful self loop OU potential power plant!

It would work better if the plastic ring were octagonal, with sharp angles! It's easy to see how an identical set of coils could be wound short and wide to resemble Lidmotor's forms, or longer and thinner.

The coil poles will appear on the perpendicular in both the output and power coils, and cannot effect the magnet spinner with "Lenz Drag" as they would facing the diametric rotor! This is the key to the "Lenz Free" performance. The bifilar SSG can easily spin the diametric tube up to 50k rpm with no drag from any of the coils. Five times faster than John's "Reed Switch" version! In addition, the Neo tube is a hundred times more powerful then Bedini's tiny rotor disks.

This is basically no different from the first idea above, except it allows for stretching the coil width.

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« Reply #263 on: November 04, 2015, 06:42:43 PM »
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« Reply #264 on: November 05, 2015, 01:30:44 AM »
Bedini's "Zero Force Motor" has two power coils, one push and one pull. Lets take a quick look at what happens with the horizontal output coil and diametric magnet: The south pole approaches the coil on an arc. A north pole appears on the approached end of the coil which repels weakly. However, the effect is zero at the null point where normally it would be greatest; Then as the magnet pulls away, a north pole appears on the other end of the coil which has an attraction. The apex of the spinner field increases in distance from the pole ends due to the arc; However the near term back attraction event after entry is offset by the near term attraction event on exit so the net "Lenz Drag" should factor out to zero!

The sticking point is at the furthest distance between the round magnet rotor and the straight output coil where the pole is facing away so it should just slip cleanly by.
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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #265 on: November 05, 2015, 02:39:10 PM »
Youtube quote from Lidmotor:

+DaKrampus "Yes. I was working on it this morning using one of my old window motors reconfigured like that and I think that you are right. It is perhaps a window motor turned inside out.  It turns out, from what I read on the forums today, that this setup has been very much tested long ago and discarded as not as good as others.  To me it is just an interesting way to turn a rotor and something I personally have not seen before".

Here's my response:

"A window motor rotor that is even with the lips of the coil, rides under the coil's electromagnetic poles. The side rotor avoids them it's way".

The picture below is of one of my pre-Bedini "Window Motor" models. The surface of the 1" diameter neo tube spinner is pocked with epoxy "Golf Ball" indentations to help lift the spinning rotor, and protect against shattering. You could lay a straight edge across the top and it would sit flat. The neo tube rotor spins on internal 1/4" O.D. 1/8" I.D. precision ceramic bearings:

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #266 on: November 05, 2015, 04:30:02 PM »
We're looking at a "Zero Force" window motor above. What I didn't get to try is harvesting output with a second "Spiral Coil" held perpendicularly overhead. Held overhead in chirality, (mirrored) the output coil generates heavy "Lenz Drag". One on each side like wings might go OU. Below's a picture of some ceramic bearings:

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #267 on: November 06, 2015, 03:06:53 PM »
I named my version a "Porthole Motor".

 

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