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Author Topic: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.  (Read 96947 times)

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #60 on: September 08, 2014, 03:47:53 PM »

Here's a definitive JLN video. JLN has completely mastered control of the "Lenz Delay Acceleration effect" by sliding the output coil along his "Barkhausen Core":


http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE21en.htm


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We notice on the curve below, that the braking effect (common Lenz effect) and the accelerating effect (reverse Lenz effect) of the rotating magnetic rotor (blue curve) is DIRECTLY LINKED to the phase shifting curve of the magnetic fluctuation (red curve). The acceleration of the rotor is maximal when the phase angle switches from postive to negative (the green rectangle area at a distance of 30mm). The loaded secondary coil is set at the phase shifting point and acts as a wave reflector, it returns the magnetic wave in opposition phase to the magnetic rotor in rotation, producing its acceleration.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #61 on: September 08, 2014, 04:16:26 PM »
JLN's magnetic wave reflector output coil only works to accelerate the spinning rotor over the threshold R.P.M. A COP measured against a D.C. motor input, plugged into a wall outlet will turn out poor. Even without the LC tank, a rotor simply driven up to threshold speed by a signal generator sine wave alone will improve the COP many many times. The spinner bearing is the only obstacle.


                             A freewheeling spinner wouldn't need a tank oscillation once self powered by a wave reflector output coil.


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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #62 on: September 08, 2014, 06:10:18 PM »
JLN 's spinner would self run if it were de-clutched  and allowed to spin freely on low friction precision bearings. An LC tank would allow the spinner to idle at threshold R.P.M. Braking could be achieved by switching the power coils to output and regulating a load. Any kind of circuit could be used to run it up. Two coils, one trigger and the other power would complement a Bedini. These coils can be used to brake the spinner if necessary.   


JLN apparently can afford a cleaning maid and is not dressed up in a scary "Gorilla Suit" like Tinklehole Krapoola.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #63 on: September 08, 2014, 07:28:10 PM »
The difference between the "Consecutive" and the "Parallel" Hybrid, Honda and Prius, is that the "Honda Consecutive" has it's electric generating motor connected to the drive train. The Prius motor just charges the battery. I wrote and told Thane that I thought he was making the same mistake Honda did. He grew angry with me.


JLN's last video has three "Lenz Delay" output coils and a rotor brake to simulate a drive train load. I believe that's a backwards approach. It makes more sense to advance the self runner to generate power to charge the electric motor battery. This design would make a fine range extender for the Tesla battery driven car. This approach makes all Thane's patents obsolete.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #64 on: September 08, 2014, 08:25:42 PM »
Remove the "Paddle Wheel Brake" from JLN's spinner and install a pair of nearly frictionless precision ceramic bearings. Open the power coil circuit and the spinner should begin to self propel at "Lenz Acceleration" threshold from the output coil wave reflection alone. The output coil needs a load, so not only would the generator run itself at that point, it would generate that amount of excess power power too! It's a mistake to slow the rotor speed mechanically. It just kills it's own advantage.


Mechanical drag can be duplicated by imposing additional output coil "Lenz Drag". That way the mechanical losses are eliminated. That extra power would power the drive wheel electrically more efficiently.


This approach eliminates the need for a "Torque Converter". Thane's Bane!

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #65 on: September 08, 2014, 10:19:14 PM »
Here's a definitive JLN video. JLN has completely mastered control of the "Lenz Delay Acceleration effect" by sliding the output coil along his "Barkhausen Core":


http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE21en.htm


Comments :
We notice on the curve below, that the braking effect (common Lenz effect) and the accelerating effect (reverse Lenz effect) of the rotating magnetic rotor (blue curve) is DIRECTLY LINKED to the phase shifting curve of the magnetic fluctuation (red curve). The acceleration of the rotor is maximal when the phase angle switches from postive to negative (the green rectangle area at a distance of 30mm). The loaded secondary coil is set at the phase shifting point and acts as a wave reflector, it returns the magnetic wave in opposition phase to the magnetic rotor in rotation, producing its acceleration.
The experiment that you are looking at demonstrates different amounts of power shunting.  If you allow your car engine to idle with the car in gear it will move forward with a small amount of pressure on the brakes, and more quickly with less pressure on the brakes.  The engine efficiency is unchanged by what you do with the brakes.  If you were to put a motor and a cam on the throttle, the car would then accelerate in an undulating pattern.  If you time application of the brakes you could arrange that the brakes are pressed hardest when the throttle is open and the least when the throttle is closed, or alternately the most when the throttle is closed and the least when the throttle is open.  The average speed will be differnt between the two cases, but engine efficiency is still unaltered.

And so it is here.  One can reduce the losses and due to the magnetic viscosity, one can also time the phase relationship between the braking and acceleration forces to coincide at maximum or at opposition.  What one cannot do is convert the braking forces into self-accelerating forces.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #66 on: September 08, 2014, 10:43:07 PM »
@MarkE,

Quote from you:

"What one cannot do is convert the braking forces into self-accelerating forces".

So what?

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #67 on: September 08, 2014, 10:59:17 PM »
@MarkE,

Quote from you:

"What one cannot do is convert the braking forces into self-accelerating forces".

So what?
So, what is that as much fun as magnetic viscosity may be, it is a loss mechanism.  More of the effect does not improve efficiency, it hurts efficiency.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #68 on: September 09, 2014, 01:35:50 AM »
@MarkE,


Help solve this one: Suppose JLN's pulse power input is many times greater then sine wave drive. Accepting that we can accelerate the spinner to 25k both ways; Would the "Magnet Wave Reflector Coil" behave any differently with one power source over the other?   

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #69 on: September 09, 2014, 02:28:32 AM »
@MarkE,


Help solve this one: Suppose JLN's pulse power input is many times greater then sine wave drive. Accepting that we can accelerate the spinner to 25k both ways; Would the "Magnet Wave Reflector Coil" behave any differently with one power source over the other?   
If speaking only in terms of the driving waveform, a sine wave source with the same peak amplitude as a square wave source will be free of harmonics that mostly just waste power.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #70 on: September 09, 2014, 03:52:58 PM »
@MarkE,

Nice dodge!

Quote from mark:

"So, what is that as much fun as magnetic viscosity may be, it is a loss mechanism.  More of the effect does not improve efficiency, it hurts efficiency".

The "Ramapo Plinth", a stone axe head found in a New Jersey river bed, complete with operating instructions in Proto-Phoenician; "Parry first then strike".  Additional fighting instructions from "Lao Tsu"; "One must first step backwards before one can leap forward". On the surface, these apparent "loss mechanisms" Yin strength inside Yang, yield extra power!

Placing a Neo magnet tube inside an output coil bore hole is strictly Tabu from an efficiency perspective. The magnet has an even greater magnetic viscosity then JLN's ferrite core, and slows the output coil pole reversal past TDC even more, resulting in rotor acceleration at a lower rotor threshold speed.

Everyone's told magnets are the worst choice for a coil core, because they 'Gum up the coil" too much. So, you're right about increased magnetic viscosity hurting efficency, but the loss helps increase "Lenz acceleration" by delaying the pole shift past TDC and suppling propulsion to the rotor at lower R.P.M.! Got it?

A non-shorted output coil goes unseen by the magnet rotor. Conradelectro agreed to test this kind of very high magnetic viscosity neo magnet core "Lenz Delay" coil over this past Yuletide, but neglected to connect the output coil wires together and got zero results, infuriating me.     

Proper positioning is crucial for both kinds of "High Magnetic Viscosity" output cores to get the maximum acceleration effect! JLN's tests help demonstrate the value of the "Synchro Coil"! Doug Konzen uploaded a video that demonstrates how attaching a magnet to the back side of a ferrite output coil core speeds his magnet rotor up and lowers input at low R.P.M. by increasing "Magnetic Viscosity" in this way!
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 08:36:07 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #71 on: September 09, 2014, 07:16:02 PM »
If you do the math properly, you will find that the "acceleration" never makes up for the loss.  Each adjustment to reduce the loss, weakens the acelleration.  Conversely, each effort to increase the acceleration increases the loss.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #72 on: September 09, 2014, 08:09:54 PM »

@MarkE,

How do you measure a loss when the input drops as the rotor accelerates? Maybe you'll start to pretend you know more then Nicola Tesla like that other know it all show off, hiding in a side tracked portion of the London sewer system like a Sax Rohmer character, not Tyrone Power:

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« Reply #73 on: September 09, 2014, 11:11:01 PM »
We can lower the "Lenz Delay" R.P.M. threshold by attaching "Konzen" magnets to the back side of the ferrite cores, increasing the "Magnetic Viscosity" of the ferrite cores, and generally making it harder for their output coils to operate efficiently. This advantage allows us to tailor the other parameters, such as LC tank self oscillating frequency, and bearing design.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2014, 12:23:50 AM »
MileHigh developed the extremely efficient MHOP circuit on my "Self Accelerating Reed Switch" thread that looks like a natural for the two coil power circuit under consideration. The circuit includes an onboard "Stroboscope". This circuit replaces the need for a signal generator and a Laser Tach. I rejected this initially because I didn't feel it would run up to "Lenz Delay" R.P.M. threshold speed; However, raising the output coil ferrite core "Magnetic Viscosity" with tail magnets like Doug demonstrates, would help it interface! 


The trigger and power coils would be joined on the "Flop Over" to Hartley Oscillator.

 

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