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Author Topic: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.  (Read 100092 times)

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #165 on: September 02, 2015, 12:35:32 PM »
It is not a paradox.  It means that the system is non-linear.  Many systems are.  The common mistake that many people make is that they confuse increasing efficiency or increasing output with reduced input as a sign of over unity.  They invariably find that try as they might, they can't ever manage to get the system to the point that the absolute output energy exceeds the input energy, cycle by cycle.  There is always the "sticky spot" or its equivalent to overcome.  the predicted self-running machines only ever run down.

MarkE feels the inverse power effect is not a pathway to overunity. That may be if magnets don't fight back. Let's say we run ten magnet rotors and ten coils between two motors and load them with output instead of physical drag. I got over a ten percent gain in efficiency applying load. That amounts to a very serious advantage. I believe there's a chance of achieving "overunity" with a large enough scale up. I believe the advantage comes from the magnet increasing it's own strength to keep up with the frequency

Gotoluc demonstrates how increasing magnet strength increases the work a supporting power coil can do. When the rotor magnet grows stronger the greater the work the A.C. power coil can do for a fixed input.

I believe when the magnet rotor's slowed down enough, it begins to draw strength from the quantum plane to try and keep pace with the A.C power frequency. What's the upward limit to this power increase? Slowing the motor rotor with output drag may go over the breakeven point! As we press the motor for higher output the motor draws less power!

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #165 on: September 02, 2015, 12:35:32 PM »

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« Reply #166 on: September 02, 2015, 02:02:19 PM »
What truly puzzles me about this motor as a generator is that the coil windings would not normally generate any current or create any "Lenz Drag" the way they're oriented to the rotor magnet as a normal output coil would. Perhaps there is no Lenz Drag in the generator configuration for the synchronous kind of output with the coil facing sideways? The six "Mu Metal" stator walls must play an important, but not well understood, part in the motor's operation.

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« Reply #167 on: September 02, 2015, 02:36:27 PM »
Running as a generator, the "Mu Metal" stator plates suppress the magnet field as the rotor turns.The magnet pulse is directed on the perpendicular, in and out, through the coil windings in an alternating fashion. This is the correct direction for the fluctuating field to generate current in the coil wraps. The question is; How can "Lenz Drag" effect the rotor when the coil wraps are slipping the field facing sideways?  The metal stator plates cause the alternating magnet field to pass through the coil windings on the perpendicular, but the coil has no way to influence the rotor back! If this kind of synchronous motor works backwards to generate power with no "Lenz Drag" we can shut our hazardous Nuclear Fission plants down tomorrow.

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Re: Oscillating sine wave LC tank magnet motor.
« Reply #168 on: September 02, 2015, 03:16:52 PM »
This turntable synchronous motor is more then just a synchronous motor it's a unique "Pulse A.C. synchronous motor".

As a generator it works a little like Dan Quale's "Lenz Free" generator , where we see an iron field interrupter:

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« Reply #169 on: September 02, 2015, 03:51:00 PM »
Take a look at this short video on "Lenz's Law". Note in particular the orientation of the loop coil and the expanding and contracting magnetic field lines:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkSsgTQOXVI

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« Reply #170 on: September 02, 2015, 04:02:03 PM »
"There are issues related to "prior art" regarding electromagnet motors. In the interest of history, we resurrect this information regarding Alan Francoeur's Interference Disc Generator, as it is being challenged by Daniel Quale".

This is exactly what the synchronous turntable motor is when run backwards as a alternator: An "A.C. interference stator alternator". This is a "Lenz Free" design first developed by Alan Francoeur. A very bulky prototype by contrast.

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« Reply #171 on: September 02, 2015, 04:40:50 PM »
Two "Mu Metal" strips each 1/4 the circumference of a solenoid coil bore hole, glued opposite each other to the inside of the coil core would allow us to spin a diametric tube magnet "Lenz Free" along the axis, and generate A.C. current just like the turntable motor. Frequency would match R.P.M.

Two interference strips, and the diametric fields slipping the coil windings sideways. Quantum leap, warp factor overdive! Summon Spock to the bridge: Time to beam Yoda up!

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« Reply #172 on: September 02, 2015, 06:34:45 PM »
Four turntable motors, two coils with the "Interference Stators" in place in the center and two at the ends. One to motor and three for output; It should go overunity and simply self loop and run itself while generating additional "Lenz Free" A.C. output for just the cost of friction and moving the hardware weight. You are now officially "Off the grid" and TK owes everyone a free cheeseburger.

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« Reply #173 on: September 02, 2015, 06:57:33 PM »
The magnet rotor feeds flux in and out of the coil through the stator window as it turns, and the coil projects an opposite "Lenz Reflected" pole up and down along it's axis. This leaves a zone of field impenetrability that can't influence the rotor because the vectors are non-aligned. Lenz drag is impossible at this "Lorentz angle of minimum interaction", where the coil field is facing as far away from the magnet field as physically possible.

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« Reply #174 on: September 02, 2015, 07:47:39 PM »
I think the "Interference stators" act as a pony motor, and the rotor runs as a purely synchronous motor after it pulses up to frequency. The engineers did not have a "Lenz free" alternator in view when they designed this motor. A.C. current can power the synchronous rotor sideways through the coil, but the magnet field has no effect what-so-ever on the coil when spinning back against the coil in that position, except for the window fluctuation. The coil field is pointing in the wrong direction away from the magnet rotor. This motor generates practically all the power it's fed as shown on youtube. A "Lenz Free" alternator was not an intended design feature, but merely an unsought for consequence that accompanied the practical criteria as a motor.

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« Reply #175 on: September 02, 2015, 09:46:48 PM »
I'm starting to believe this carousel motor was reto-engineered from a Roswell artifact. I heard rumors that Amana had access to the Dreamland area under the Nixon Energy Independence Project.

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« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2015, 09:32:57 PM »
On closer inspection of the autopsy video, all I was able to see were two "Interference Plates" facing each other while projecting up from the bottom of the case. These plates would have to be cut off and glued to the inside of the coil for the center rotor coils. They cause the magnet field to oscillate across the coil turns from the center to the edge.

The coil can run the rotor as a synchronous motor with A.C. power because the impulse is electromagnetic. The magnet field can have no effect back on the coil due to it's non-vector alignment. The fact that the turntable motor can generate power running backwards as an alternator, is proof that the "Interference Stators" are a critical necessity. I can guarantee everyone that the rotor magnet can not influence the coil regardless of how its polarized, spinning in the same direction as the wire coils are wound instead of across them at a 90 degree angle. We would be forced to "Pump" the magnet up and down to generate current. There would be nothing coming from a magnet spinning that way, so the "Interference Plates" must play an essential roll in the generation of the A.C. power. 

The bonus here is; There's no way the "Lenz Field" from the output coil can drag back on the magnet rotor because the output coil's magnetic field is pointing away from the magnet rotor by 90 degrees!

The abundant power that this motor generates as an alternator beckons us to apply this "Lenz Free" approach to a broader range of shapes, sizes and materials.

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« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2015, 10:40:15 PM »
I'm reminded of a patent I saw on the web, of an overunity generator that I read worked very well, but the patent drawings were tampered with and I could never fully understand the way it was supposed to work. Now it makes more sense.

The alternator consisted of one central diametric magnet tube spinner nested in a honeycomb of six more that turned by magnetic induction. The six outer alternator tube magnet rotors must have been diametrics spinning along the coil axis inside "Lenz Free Interference Plate" output coils. This invention is hidden by a confused set of drawings, but I remember the sketches well enough to see through it now. The 6 satellite magnet rollers just freewheel.

"Lenz Free" does not include the tiny amount of magnetic drag caused by the non-magnetic "Interference Stator Plates".
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« Reply #178 on: September 04, 2015, 01:06:23 PM »
The turntable motor "Interference Plate" construction material needs to be examined under a low power microscope to determine if the metal stators have been treated with any kind of diamagnetic coating. Mu-metal has been shown to be practically worthless as a magnetic shield by testers on Youtube. Powdered Bismuth perhaps? We need to have a closer look at this material before we can close the chapter on this motor.

This motor would generate no power what-so-ever without the "Interference Plates". The coil is positioned wrongly for the spinning magnet rotor. Nothing; Not a nano amp! I never realized that this "Interference Plate" design was such an effective generator untill I began examining this motor closely over the course of this thread. This design approach allows the alternator rotor to spin freely, at practically no cost, while generating abundant A.C. power. This is an utterly fantastic achievement!

The absence of ridicule from our "Click of Chronic Cynics" proves that these are incontravertible facts no one can deny.
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« Reply #179 on: September 04, 2015, 02:11:54 PM »
Two turntable motors, disassembled down to the bare magnet rotors, joined together with a rubber tube coupling then powered up on one side, the other side generating A.C. current. We flop a load on the alternator and measure the amp draw on the mover motor from the wall outlet. The input should go up right? Not in this case: What I predict is no rise in input to the prime mover when the incandescent bulb illuminates from the alternator output! Proof the alternator behaves as I described; "Lenz Free"! 

The turntable motor draws less power when under load, so it's not too far fetched to imagine that it may also abolish drag run backwards as an alternator.
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