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Title: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: yannickp on August 25, 2014, 12:40:24 AM
Hi All,
Which made Wang Shum HO magnet motor ?
Who can send me drawing please.
Regards
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: Ricvzq on August 04, 2015, 01:23:18 AM
I have the 2d drawing but i just don't have the correct dimension/sizes for each part.
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: rstergar on August 06, 2015, 08:42:32 PM
i only find this...
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: Paul-R on August 07, 2015, 01:04:43 PM

There is a little more on  this  here:

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Chapter1.pdf
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: rstergar on September 05, 2015, 03:16:56 PM
patent...
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: rstergar on September 05, 2015, 11:42:42 PM
i just created 3d image of this motor and i will print it and test it :) i will post results here...
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on September 06, 2015, 01:20:58 AM
Hi Rstergar,

Nice model.

Attached is another document from Lawrence Tseung(pg 15). It goes into the story behind it's creation and hardships of the inventor.

What is glossed over in the patent is the use of a ferrofluid. The ferrofluid is created to have a slight lag behind the magnet which offsets(tilts) the rotor slightly.


Quote
Wang said, “I did not know that unbalanced rotation could Lead Out energy until you
told me. The use of that unbalanced wheel is just the result of experiments. It took me
a few years to solve the problems one by one. It also uses a damping liquid otherwise
the shaking would be too much. I tested dozens of liquids before finding a suitable
one.”

If you take a magnetic putty and put it in a plastic bag then place a plate on top with a magnet in the corner, you can get it to tilt the plate. Just change the viscosity to change the speed at which it lifts the plate.

Here is a slower magnetic putty for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jgF9w9t5Y
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: SoManyWires on September 06, 2015, 01:47:31 AM
Hi Rstergar,

Nice model.

Attached is another document from Lawrence Tseung(pg 15). It goes into the story behind it's creation and hardships of the inventor.

What is glossed over in the patent is the use of a ferrofluid. The ferrofluid is created to have a slight lag behind the magnet which offsets(tilts) the rotor slightly.


If you take a magnetic putty and put it in a plastic bag then place a plate on top with a magnet in the corner, you can get it to tilt the plate. Just change the viscosity to change the speed at which it lifts the plate.

Here is a slower magnetic putty for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jgF9w9t5Y

ferrofluid does seem that it could be helpful.
flow rate could be controlled by viscosity, strength of fields and surface area dimensions.


well done, thanks for the insight.

Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: rstergar on September 07, 2015, 10:40:52 PM
result: not working... (without unbalanced rotation and liquid and shielding)

next step: i will add shielding (steel)...

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if anybody have some ideas and plans on motor like this, contact me if you want 3D printed prototype ;)
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: Pirate88179 on September 07, 2015, 11:06:22 PM
result: not working... (without unbalanced rotation and liquid and shielding)

next step: i will add shielding (steel)...

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if anybody have some ideas and plans on motor like this, contact me if you want 3D printed prototype ;)

Very nice job on the 3d printed replication.  I am not really sure if this motor ever really worked but your replication appears to be very accurate to me.

Bill
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: SoManyWires on September 08, 2015, 08:41:29 AM
Very nice job on the 3d printed replication.  I am not really sure if this motor ever really worked but your replication appears to be very accurate to me.

Bill


yes agreed, those were some decent results that are like store bought components.
even if its 1st use was not a successful 'self running' generator. can't knock anyone for trying, in fact it deserves a salute!

it would be nice to have a 3d printer.

just ordered a arduino reprap based 3d printer kit minus the motors and structural apparatus for about $100.
probably could have made it easier on myself though and just spent more money upfront.

figured beyond any headaches it could result in, it will give me something to do and might learn a few more things at my own rate going this route, and get to recycle some other stuff in storage.



Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: mscoffman on September 08, 2015, 10:05:54 PM

Apparently Shun Ho was involved with a parlor trick where he flipped a bar stool upside down
into a bowl of (special?) vibration canceling hydraulic fluid. Then had four strong Chinese guys grab
a hold of one leg each of the stool. The four guys had approximately the same strength and were
told to go at it. The legs on the stool then vibrated back and forth by the men. This produces a
"hand magnet" type vibrational force on the bar stool.

But the amazing thing was the stool *rotated* in the bowl with a force even though none of the men
were pushing it in that direction!. Shun Ho was smart enough not to get hung up by the "hand
magnet" vibration logic and stated that it was amazing that the chair tried to rotate with no forces
in that plane. What makes sense is that the vibration damping fluid was taking directional forces
is the xy plane and translating them a rotational force in the z plane where they can "damped out"
or brought out of the system as rotory power.

Pictures and other information seems to indicate that the magnetic rotor vibrates then that is converted
into rotary motion by the the specialized hydraulic damping fluid in the bowl. I've seen pictures with a
heavy unbalanced cam looking device that sits in the fluid but is attached to the motor rotor.

 :S:MarkSCoffman
Title: Re: drawing Wang Shum HO magnet motor
Post by: freeworld on December 03, 2020, 10:06:55 PM
Hi, is anyone got this working? I am interested to test it and build one for myself. Any ideas where i can start?
I don't have a 3D printer...
Thanks