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Author Topic: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel  (Read 5940 times)

Offline NathanCoppedge

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My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« on: August 21, 2014, 01:24:30 AM »
Here is a diagram [BELOW] illustrating my version of the Bessler Wheel.

Comments welcome.

I just attached two thick wedge-shaped boxes with marbles to a central 'bar weight' spanning contingently.

The toy I used was K'Nex, which was popular some years ago, and is probably still available for order online.

I also have a video of the model I built swinging pretty fast --- but coming to a stop.

So, sorry to disappoint. For the die-hard Bessler fans, they have to guess I have the wrong design.

This is pretty good, though, as I say in the video. It does seem to hold a steady speed until friction interrupts it.

Here is the video on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBIaH4K9qQU

[feel free to browse the other videos in my channel as well. I have a number of more successful models I have previously filmed, to serve as partial evidence].

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My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« on: August 21, 2014, 01:24:30 AM »

Offline telecom

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2014, 02:47:31 AM »
Hi,
great work!
It what position does it stop?

Offline MarkE

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2014, 03:12:09 AM »
The best Bessler wheel possible is a well-balanced flywheel.

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Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 03:17:13 AM »
its not use trying to solve the bessler wheel as I have already solved it. ;)

Thx  men.

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 04:26:22 AM »
The well worn,(and understandably assumptive) phrase, 'The best gravity wheel is a flywheel', is traditionally capitulative, and perpetuates mystery masquerading as comprehension.  The following example is but one of many which naturally requires no deep analysis to see that more than enough energy is released in order to bring the device back to the reset position with enough left over for another go.  And is but one of many examples which point toward man's historical preference to cyclical immersion in chaos, over continually co-ordinated creativity. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjVQWG7xUQk

Valid or otherwise, Bessler's concerns kept him from fully sharing his experiences.

Rare is the dog who won't drop it's bone upon seeing that 'other dog' with it's bone in the still water just beneath the bridge as the sun passes it's zenith.

Of course, time and still waters are becoming rarer commodities through which to 'reflect' in this Day and Age.


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« Last Edit: August 21, 2014, 09:05:53 AM by TechStuf »

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Offline MarkE

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 01:44:43 PM »
In that particular video the pendulum was given a nice big push at the start.  I count 13 times over the top CW and once CCW as it wound down.  A good flywheel on good bearings given a similar push like could make many complete revolutions, instead of the 13 made by that device.

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 03:10:36 PM »
In that particular video the pendulum was given a nice big push at the start.  I count 13 times over the top CW and once CCW as it wound down.  A good flywheel on good bearings given a similar push like could make many complete revolutions, instead of the 13 made by that device.
It's very "phun" to make chaotic pendulums in Phun/Algodoo. If you set the parameters right (no friction, no air resistance) you can get them to swing forever and they can trace out some very interesting patterns.

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 03:15:29 PM »
Hi,
great work!
It what position does it stop?

Surprisingly, it stops with the bar weight vertical, and kind of rocks back and forth.

There actually might be more than one potential end position, but I think this is the most common.

Obviously I need heavier marbles, but it might not be worth the trouble. The proportions are pretty good now, although I've thought extending the narrow end of each of the wedges. The boxes are kind of rickety.

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 03:21:06 PM »
It's very "phun" to make chaotic pendulums in Phun/Algodoo. If you set the parameters right (no friction, no air resistance) you can get them to swing forever and they can trace out some very interesting patterns.
A world without losses  goes on and on and on.

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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
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Re: My Best Guess on A Bessler Wheel
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2014, 04:58:07 AM »
In that particular video the pendulum was given a nice big push at the start.  I count 13 times over the top CW and once CCW as it wound down.  A good flywheel on good bearings given a similar push like could make many complete revolutions, instead of the 13 made by that device.

Point taken. I'm not much of a fan of Bessler in general. I was kind of playing devil's advocate with my video and diagram.

 

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