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Author Topic: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER  (Read 18127 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2014, 03:09:27 PM »
This is strange.  Mr. Hardcastle states on his website that there is some controversy as to whether if others perform some non-specific tests on some devices and get some non-specific results he should eat a hat.  If the quote that celsus posted is correct, then Mr. Hardcastle was due to eat a hat when he did not produce proof to the person he addressed.

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Some people are suggesting that if they do the test and it does not perform as specified that I owe them an Akubra Hat eating, I disagree with their logic as I have proved the physics, not my fault if the people who already know it works do not want there names thrown in to the feeding frenzy that exists in the society of rabid skeptics. However if someone buys a device then on top of the offer of $10,000, I will also consume 50gm of my Akubra hat, video uploaded to YT. Additionally if any USA university is prepared to certify the device I will pay them a fee provided that they will sign a certificate after they preform the test. I wanted a Prof at ANU to do the test on a supplied device, and so certify the physics, but he (Steve) said it was not necessary as he already believed it to be so from the statements provided to him by an independent professional (name withheld). So people can take my offer, or not, but I only eat my hat when I actually fail, so buy a device and test it before you say I should eat Akubra.


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Posted By: PJH on Jun 4th 2014 I will feel obligated to consume said Akubra if I cannot provide to you verifiable proof of a working device in contradiction to 2LOT, please state what excuse you will use on the 20th August not to eat your yet to be nominated hat?


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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2014, 03:09:27 PM »

Offline sarkeizen

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2014, 04:09:17 PM »
I did not fail to provide proof, did fail to get the Chinese to build devices by 20th, agreed, but who would have thought they would be so slow?
According to you the only thing that will prove things is if people have a device in their hands.  That was not possible by the 20th as promised ergo I think it's pretty clear that even under your OWN crazy standards.  You are in contradiction and apparently to some people that means you should eat your hat.
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I do however accept the hat eating challenge needs to be put on firmer ground, so I have added that as a condition of the $10,000 challenge.
The $10K challenge is idiotic.  You have provided no test criteria and no success criteria. 
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Also added an offer to pay a fee to any USA university that is prepared to issues a test certificate.
Or you could HIRE an independent group to TEST IT as chosen by skeptics or some representative group of skeptics (i.e. JRF).  For probably less than $10K  if the test is as simple as you imply (that anyone could do it and demonstrate your utter failure) and PUBLICIZE the result.  Seriously this is done ALL THE TIME.  Why wouldn't you just do that?  It is orders of magnitude more POWERFUL to do that.   This all makes me think you actually don't have the money to pay up.

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Now that is the end of my generosity,
You have provided exactly nothing.

Show of hands...is there ANYONE who really believes Philip here anymore?

Offline Philip Hardcastle

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2014, 09:20:35 PM »
On that last vile comment, I quit.


Website scrubbed.


It is not my sole responsibility to try and do good for the climate.


Goodbye.

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2014, 09:20:35 PM »
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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2014, 09:58:31 PM »
On that last vile comment, I quit.


Website scrubbed.


It is not my sole responsibility to try and do good for the climate.


Goodbye.

To be fair, you have been promising to show something for more than five years and never provided anything of value.
Or to be exact: You failed so many times that the non-result we see now is what everyone has expected.

Offline MarkE

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2014, 10:50:14 PM »
On that last vile comment, I quit.


Website scrubbed.


It is not my sole responsibility to try and do good for the climate.


Goodbye.
Do as you choose.  It's a bit stunning that because you feel wronged by a handful of people here you declare that you will deny seven billions others your supposed life changing discovery.  What is even more stunning is that you feel wronged that people challenge you based on your own undelivered claims and promises.  For those of us who believe you have been badly mistaken all along your announcement has no more impact than the numerous bombastic announcements that you have made before and come to naught.


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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2014, 10:50:14 PM »
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Offline Madebymonkeys

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2014, 02:59:53 AM »
On that last vile comment, I quit.


Website scrubbed.


It is not my sole responsibility to try and do good for the climate.


Goodbye.

You may as well post those construction diagrams and the names of the 3 fabs now, I guess?
Or isn't there any?

Offline Neo-X

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2014, 03:00:57 PM »
The Habstec website was changed. The owner of the website was treaten by free energy supressor. Damn! They will do all sorts of evil things to prevent free energy to spread in the world. They have no pity on poor people. They only care about making money. :(

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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2014, 03:00:57 PM »
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Offline mscoffman

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2014, 06:40:48 PM »

The remnant of the website is; habtec.com.  The text does not seem to clearly support what NEO-X is saying. By the way
"Habtec" was a poor choice of names for a new company as there plenty of companies around the world already using that
name, operating in similar businesses. It seems if this new company was a great success that it would almost guarantee
lawsuits and problems in the future. I not sure why people do this.

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2014, 06:58:31 PM »
It may be just as well.  If Mr. Hardcastle could not handle the questions and criticisms here, then he would probably be much more upset by industry review.

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2014, 06:58:31 PM »
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Offline Madebymonkeys

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2014, 01:12:03 AM »
It may be just as well.  If Mr. Hardcastle could not handle the questions and criticisms here, then he would probably be much more upset by industry review.

It's now pretty clear that it's all been bull$hit.
If it worked then why on earth would you reject partnerships and joint ventures to take to market?
It was touted as 'open source' so if you don't partner with larger businesses then they will go and make it themselves and cut you out.

If PH really thinks he has something (which I don't, given his recent outburst) then he must be insane to crap-out on the project because of a few sceptics. Alternatively, it could be the best thing he ever does!

Offline MarkE

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2014, 03:23:46 AM »
It's now pretty clear that it's all been bull$hit.
If it worked then why on earth would you reject partnerships and joint ventures to take to market?
It was touted as 'open source' so if you don't partner with larger businesses then they will go and make it themselves and cut you out.

If PH really thinks he has something (which I don't, given his recent outburst) then he must be insane to crap-out on the project because of a few sceptics. Alternatively, it could be the best thing he ever does!
He seems very volatile.

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2014, 03:23:46 AM »
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Offline lumen

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2014, 06:35:23 PM »
I believe Philip's concept is viable. He spent much energy and time trying to develop a high tech version that would solve the worlds energy problems and faced many skeptics and problems and was so criticized here for his failures.
 
Now Philip was attempting to GIVE AWAY a low tech and easily built solution that may have been useful to many in this forum.
Again he is faced with criticism and negativity for giving away an easily built device that falls totally within the open source rules of this forum and is possibly the best free energy solution of any of the threads in this forum.
 
His website now states that he will no longer waste his time on others, and will use his time for his self.
So, was the criticism for his work in the past, or for his new low tech approach that may have shown different results?
 
I guess going by some logic, one could say if you fail many times then you can never succeed, though the rule to success is if you fail then get up and try again.
 

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2014, 07:14:36 PM »
I believe Philip's concept is viable. He spent much energy and time trying to develop a high tech version that would solve the worlds energy problems and faced many skeptics and problems and was so criticized here for his failures.
 
Now Philip was attempting to GIVE AWAY a low tech and easily built solution that may have been useful to many in this forum.
Again he is faced with criticism and negativity for giving away an easily built device that falls totally within the open source rules of this forum and is possibly the best free energy solution of any of the threads in this forum.
 
His website now states that he will no longer waste his time on others, and will use his time for his self.
So, was the criticism for his work in the past, or for his new low tech approach that may have shown different results?
 
I guess going by some logic, one could say if you fail many times then you can never succeed, though the rule to success is if you fail then get up and try again.
The criticism of the past few days focused on him apparently welching on a bet he made in June.  Mr. Hardcastle did not dispute the quote in post #4 by celsus.  Mr. Hardcastle has not provided the proof that was the subject of the bet.  I call that a loss.  Mr. Hardcastle is upset that others see it that way as well.

Mr. Hardcastle has over the years made various claims that by leveraging thermionic principles he could break the Second Law of Thermodynamics.  His various concepts have been heavily criticized as unworkable.  Mr. Hardcastle expresses his opinion that he claims is shared by experts who he says refuse to be identified that an experiment with a vacuum tube in an oven validates his claims of a Second Law violation.  Those experiments are at least three years old.  They have been criticized heavily as well.

Mr. Hardcastle's latest efforts seem related to the three year old vacuum tube experiments.

Over the time that I have been familiar with Mr. Hardcastle's claims to Second Law violations I have never seen where Mr. Hardcastle has set-out an idea and then defined a test that could falsify the null version of his idea.  IOW I have never seen him establish a means that could prove his Second Law violation claims even in the extremely unlikely case that they might be true.

The decision to pull the plug on his web site was Mr. Hardcastle's.  He has done similar things at least several times before.  IMO, Mr. Hardcastle puts himself in a difficult position:  He has multiple times now: made extraordinary claims, promised proof of his claims, failed to provide proof of his extraordinary claims, gone off in a huff.  It is very hard for meto take a person who conducts themselves in such a way seriously.

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2014, 07:36:46 PM »
He has done similar things at least several times before.  IMO, Mr. Hardcastle puts himself in a difficult position:  He has multiple times now: made extraordinary claims, promised proof of his claims, failed to provide proof of his extraordinary claims, gone off in a huff.  It is very hard for meto take a person who conducts themselves in such a way seriously.

I may add: He has set a very specific deadline every time and he has failed to keep this deadline every time. Without exception.

Offline Madebymonkeys

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Re: HABTEC SOLAR CONVERTER
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2014, 01:17:38 AM »
I believe Philip's concept is viable. He spent much energy and time trying to develop a high tech version that would solve the worlds energy problems and faced many skeptics and problems and was so criticized here for his failures.
 
Now Philip was attempting to GIVE AWAY a low tech and easily built solution that may have been useful to many in this forum.
Again he is faced with criticism and negativity for giving away an easily built device that falls totally within the open source rules of this forum and is possibly the best free energy solution of any of the threads in this forum.
 
His website now states that he will no longer waste his time on others, and will use his time for his self.
So, was the criticism for his work in the past, or for his new low tech approach that may have shown different results?
 
I guess going by some logic, one could say if you fail many times then you can never succeed, though the rule to success is if you fail then get up and try again.

There was, at least (to me), a glimmer of hope in his idea (there are many high efficiency thermionic generators documented even as close as this year...they do depend on a temp differential though!) but his reaction to criticism speaks loud. To me, again, it seems like he is full of crap and cannot and has not been able to demonstrate a 2LOT violation. Instead, I think he has managed to spend a lot of time and money recreating experiments, done many times, which rely on a temperature differential...probably due to measurement errors or blunders.

If the above is inaccurate, I would love to hear PH's side of the story.

Oh, and if PH is listening, do the world (and your family) a favour, let us see how to build a unit before Samsung does it!

 

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