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Author Topic: Inertia Drive project. RFDD.  (Read 75456 times)

tinman

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Re: Inertia Drive project. RFDD.
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2014, 03:34:24 PM »
Got a little more done today on the project. Here is an update video on the progress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63yJn9HuaWA&list=UUsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

tinman

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2014, 01:43:27 PM »
Well i ran the first test today on the RFDD-the pendulum test. The test was successful,although i was hoping for a little more deflection on the pointer. But as the sattllites are very small,and the device as a whole is very heavy,im happy with the result's. I have also decided to forgo the replication by another builder before showing how the device works,so you will also get a look inside the RFDD,and see it workings while running. This will all be in the video i will be posting tonight-as soon as it has uploaded. As per the norm here in WA this time of night,uploading is very slow-only 234 minute's remaining-then processing of course.

tinman

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Re: Inertia Drive project. RFDD.
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2014, 05:52:26 PM »

MarkE

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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2014, 06:29:54 PM »
You've certainly put a lot of work into it.

telecom

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Re: Inertia Drive project. RFDD.
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2014, 10:45:42 PM »
Hi Tinman,
great work and exciting results!
Have you measured the force and power consumption?


tinman

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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2014, 02:53:17 AM »
Hi Tinman,
great work and exciting results!
Have you measured the force and power consumption?
The force is very weak in this machine,as one would expect. P/in is around 780mA @ 13.2 volts->10.3 watts

broli

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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2014, 02:42:56 PM »
Power input is kind of irrelevant for this sort of effect. It sure looks intriguing and I'm eager to see any replications/improvements that come forth of this. Thanks for sharing your work, a simple but good example of the open source spirit.

telecom

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2014, 03:40:12 PM »
Power input is kind of irrelevant for this sort of effect. It sure looks intriguing and I'm eager to see any replications/improvements that come forth of this. Thanks for sharing your work, a simple but good example of the open source spirit.

Considering that Tinman noted that the effect was  powerful enough to break the cables, its is obvious that there is a considerable power to harvest.
Perhaps it requires a modified design.

MarkE

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2014, 03:42:47 PM »
Considering that Tinman noted that the effect was  powerful enough to break the cables, its is obvious that there is a considerable power to harvest.
Perhaps it requires a modified design.
I thought that the purpose of the experiment was to see if tinman's apparatus could generate a reactionless force.

tinman

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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2014, 03:48:09 PM »
Considering that Tinman noted that the effect was  powerful enough to break the cables, its is obvious that there is a considerable power to harvest.
Perhaps it requires a modified design.
The stress on the wire is nothing to exciting in regards to power. If we had a flywheel of the same mass,and spun it fast enough with a small motor that consumed less power,the flywheel would tear itself apart once terminal velocity was reached.So some thin cable breaking is really nothing when we have metal tearing apart in the above example.

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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2014, 03:50:56 PM »
I thought that the purpose of the experiment was to see if tinman's apparatus could generate a reactionless force.
It was.
I am supprised that no one has said it cant work yet-to many laws would be broken->which they wouldnt be.
A reactionless drive like mine break's no laws of physic's,but more give a better understanding as to what those !so called!laws mean.

MarkE

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2014, 05:11:25 PM »
tinman, I think that people should be encouraged to test their ideas.

Any physical experiment necessarily conforms to nature.   Our observations and interpretations can however be very faulty.  So, we have to be careful when we think we see something extraordinary to be sure that what we think we see is really what is happening.  If you start getting results that look like they defy presently understood physics, then it will be time to look to see if there is a mistake in the experiment interpretation.

Something that you might think about adding that could be interesting would be an ordinary plumb bob. 

broli

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2014, 05:37:44 PM »
Same design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-iE-nTDUQY

Wonder what will happen if he added weights to the wires like you did.

telecom

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« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2014, 06:05:12 PM »
Same design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-iE-nTDUQY

Wonder what will happen if he added weights to the wires like you did.
Another:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8keardyGs

Why not to use a different approach - two sprockets, large and small, connected by the chain, like in a bike: masses attached to the chain at the equal distances -
this should  not only provide a radius benefit, but also a mass benefit - arc
of the larger sprocket will bear more masses.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2014, 09:00:47 PM by telecom »

MarkE

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Re: Inertia Drive project. RFDD.
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2014, 07:41:07 PM »
Same design: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-iE-nTDUQY

Wonder what will happen if he added weights to the wires like you did.
That is the expected result.  It is what I expect we will see if tinman hangs a plumb bob as a pendulum.

Sir Isaac says that the force exerted by the discs retaining the sinker weights is equal to the mass and the acceleration that the spinning disks impose on the sinkers and the wires.  Sir Isaac says that there is no net force exerted outside that frame of reference.  Is Sir Isaac correct as the video you linked seems to show, or will tinman's sinker weights make a critical difference?  I submit that the plumb bob test will give us a strong indication.