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Author Topic: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos  (Read 1228765 times)

Offline picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #570 on: July 24, 2014, 09:55:50 PM »

YES, it is a zoomed in image of ONLY the centripetal vortex (however even the very center is still influenced by centrifugal inductive force which still necessitates (only much tighter) this geometry    (until in reaches inside at the midpoint of reintegration).


Its a "dilated" view of the centripetal,  using a RING magnet............So you can see a MUCH BIGGER view of the centripetal of a SOLID disk magnet,  BY HOW.???       Simple.........Ring magnet.

its the same AS a disk magnet , only magnified so you can see it better.

Disk magnet you can barely barely see it, because its so small and tight.

TA,

But again, in shot 1827, for example (and in the 1825 I asked about) where does the OD of the magnet end in relation to the pattern portrayed?

In 1827 is the OD (periphery) of the magnet roughly where the intense orange circle is defined at the periphery of the pattern?  Is there a center hole in the magnet?

Similar question for 1825, is this a solid faced magnet or one with a center hole and what are its dimensions/extents in relation to the observed pattern?

A circle or two drawn over the patterns portraying the dimensions of the magnet behind the viewer would be most helpful in understanding what we are looking at and what the patterns portray.

PW


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« Reply #571 on: July 24, 2014, 10:36:09 PM »
TA,
In 1827 is the OD (periphery) of the magnet roughly where the intense orange circle is defined at the periphery of the pattern?  Is there a center hole in the magnet?

Similar question for 1825, is this a solid faced magnet or one with a center hole and what are its dimensions/extents in relation to the observed pattern?

A circle or two drawn over the patterns portraying the dimensions of the magnet behind the viewer would be most helpful in understanding what we are looking at and what the patterns portray.

PW


In 1827 the inside diameter is roughly 36 mm   .....no the intense orange circle is the rim of the INSIDE EDGE of the ring magnet


1824, 1825, 1826 and 1827 are the same magnet

only diff zoom views.

A ring magnet lets you see the dilation OF the centripetal which is normally too small and too tight to view (way too tight).


A ring magnet, obviously and logically, give your a dilation view of the centripetal


You can see BOTH centripetal and centrifugal below :::

both patters are the SAME, both are interlacing resultant, but one is convergent and "tighter" and the other is divergent and more "open"

centripetal is shrinking back into the dielectric,
into the counterspatial inertial.      Centrifugal just the opposite.



BOTTOM pic is the pole of a 1/4" cube magnet......, and is showing the centrifugal divergent (=spatially moving [really creating])  ONLY

same pattern, both are opposite in interlacing reciprocations, but incommensurate and identical in geometry, only spatially and counterspatially (moving)  distended or contractive


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #572 on: July 24, 2014, 10:44:47 PM »


To clear some things up for some people (not meant for anyone here specifically)...........



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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #573 on: July 24, 2014, 11:32:13 PM »
 Here is the Flicker photos of Michael Snyder he developed the single axis magnet plasmon viewer..  His YT channel is https://www.youtube.com/user/SirZerp/videos
 
http://www.aps.org/about/physics-images/archive/heleshaw.cfm
 
“Anti-Vortex Image in Hele-Shaw Cell
Magnetic fields can be hard to understand or characterize. Two natural means of visualizing magnetic fields are the aurora australis and the aurora borealis, as well as the Sun's corona.
Michael Snyder and others have explored ways to visualize magnetic fields in the lab. The visualization here started with a Hele-Shaw cell. A Hele-Shaw cell is two flat parallel plates separated by a nearly infinitesimal distance. In this case, Snyder's and Frederick's Hele-Shaw cell is made of two 100mm circular glass windows separated by a Fe3O4 ferrofluid; that is, a liquid of 10nm particles that becomes strongly magnetized.
The Hele-Shaw cell is facing the camera and illuminated by 36 colored LED lights placed around the cell’s perimeter. The light is scattered through the cell as the ferrofluid particles respond to two magnets behind the cell which are aligned north/south and south/north. The magnetization produces this anti-vortex image.”
 
http://www.revolution-labs.com/
 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sirzerp/2947536208/in/photostream/lightbox/
 
I also made ways of making "non-magnetic metals" magnetic.. Sorry can show but not tell !!
 
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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #574 on: July 24, 2014, 11:43:09 PM »

 

A ring magnet lets you see the dilation OF the centripetal which is normally too small and too tight to view (way too tight).


Does not the area of the "centripetal" expand outward as distance from the pole face increases?

That is, should not increasing the distance between the pole face and the viewer cause the view of the 'centripetal" area expand?

And again, how do you justify using magnetic particles to view the fields, when they are merely smaller analogs of more macroscopic iron filings?

PW

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #575 on: July 25, 2014, 12:09:32 AM »
Here is the Flicker photos of Michael Snyder he developed the single axis magnet plasmon viewer..  His YT channel is https://www.youtube.com/user/SirZerp/videos
 
Acca..

Yes, I know about his youtube channel.  The work of his, etc.......Great work on his part.
Lovely pics,.......(actually thats the name of his book too as I recall, pretty pictures)  ;)



You see that SPHERE in the center (BELOW), thats the dielectric super-point.

Its just 1 of 1000 ways of telling people (if they believe you or not) that dielectricity terminates (in enormous power) into the creation of mass.


Mass/matter is "MADE SPATIAL" by (obviously) the inter-atomic magnetism. 

but its field (LIKE dielectricity) is counterspatial, is Omni-directionally centripetal.


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« Reply #576 on: July 25, 2014, 12:19:26 AM »
Does not the area of the "centripetal" expand outward as distance from the pole face increases?

Yes, same as a natural tornado does.   Centripetal is MAX velocity at its APEX (point)

Opposite of the Centrifugal.......MAX velocity is at the CONE END, of which, IN A MAGNET (as mentioned in the book)  is at the EDGE POINT of either "end" of a "magnet"

And WHY is that the MAX point of centrifugal on a magnet?????   Because thats where the physical "magnet" 'ENDS', and where dielectric acceleration END.....after that all reciprocation is driven spatially by the interlacing fields (or in intermediate centrifugal, doesnt make it "over the fence" and returns at the inertial plane)



That is, should not increasing the distance between the pole face and the viewer cause the view of the 'centripetal" area expand?

Yes, but at distance you are seeing only the mutual interlacing of BOTH With a more loose, but identical hypotrochoid shape ,  and you are seeing the same AT the centripetal, they are all point-nonspecific self-similar (thats incommensurate field reciprocation).

except in the case of a ring magnet where the centripetal is geometrically dilated as necessitated by the field geometry;..... the SAME but SPATIALLY divergent as a ring, therefore magnifying the spatially CONVERGENT (counterspatial moving) centripetal.


And again, how do you justify using magnetic particles to view the fields, when they are merely smaller analogs of more macroscopic iron filings?



I dont, I say EXACTLY THAT IN THE BOOK
........which is why I use MANY diff testing materials, graphite, bismuth dust,  special suspensions, and a few other things I will talk about in the future edition, but will not mention here and now.

I have several NON charged, NON ferrous testing methods.



You can test with paramagnetic AND diamagnetic materials with magnets, you just have to "get creative" and think  outside of the box.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #577 on: July 25, 2014, 12:41:42 AM »
TA,

Personally, I have always believed that regardless of whether magnetic, paramagnetic, diamagnetic, or even miniature hall sensors are used in an attempt to map the field pattern, the very act of inserting these items into the field modifies the field.

Although the effect can likely be reduced to some degree with, as you say, a diamagnetic material, doing so requires the particle size to be very small and the medium they are contained within to be of very low viscosity to allow adequate mobility of the very small particles in concert with the weak effect on them produced by the field.  But that increased mobility also allows neighboring particles to as well be more easily influenced by any changes to the field produced by adjacent particles.

In any case, as was mentioned several posts back, do you believe these observed lines and patterns of vortices created via the "centrifugal" and "centripetal" fields to be stationary?  That is, in your drawings with inward/outward indicating arrows, are these merely static vectors indicating field direction with strength varying over distance or is there an actual component of motion, flow, or oscillation related to these proposed field vectors?

PW

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« Reply #578 on: July 25, 2014, 12:49:17 AM »
TA,
Personally, I have always believed that regardless of whether magnetic, paramagnetic, diamagnetic, or even miniature hall sensors are used in an attempt to map the field pattern, the very act of inserting these items into the field modifies the field.



Fields influence fields, there is no argument,
however you really need to see the picture below.....and realize this END ON view of  AC TRANSMISSION LINES is nearly 100% same as a permanent magnet

only difference is some spread because you have TWO WIRES rather than a super-binding sphere/cylinder etc etc "physical magnet"

Its only due to immense study of Platonic incommensurability I have a firm grip inverse moving conjugate fields in a binding magneto-dielectric geometry.
Its also a wholly LOST ART of thinking methodology called retroduction.


In any case, as was mentioned several posts back, do you believe these observed lines and patterns of vortices created via the "centrifugal" and "centripetal" fields to be stationary?  That is, in your drawings with inward/outward indicating arrows, are these merely static vectors indicating field direction with strength varying over distance or is there an actual component of motion or oscillation related to these proposed field vectors?
PW

Depends on what you are connotating (or denotating) as  " STATIONARY "..... = equalization / equilibrium

Or "moving IN perfect equalibrium"

movement is an extrapolation of space AND time (>>>>>and therefore a resultant modality of a radiative field<<<<<<).........    Spacetime is a posterior attribute TO and OF radiative fields.....


This is where Einstein turned into a mental midget
, he reified the attribute (space) as THAT which "does stuff"    ;D  ;D

Chicken AND (NOT OR!!) Egg  situation  ;D  ;D

all movement is forcing fields against fields and getting = Induction, electrification, force etc etc etc.



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« Reply #579 on: July 25, 2014, 12:53:25 AM »
(pictured below) The "magnets" dielectric inertial plane , ...the very principle "driving" the entire "magnet" (= dielectric electrified object in dis-equilibrium)


The radiation / discharge OF dielectricity IS magnetism

Co-eternal / co-principles of the single Ether-fulcrum,   charge/inertia/dielectric .....and....... radiation/discharge(=magnetism)


The Ether is the Ether is the Ether.


This is why JC Maxwell called magnetism the  "dielectric field"





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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #580 on: July 25, 2014, 01:42:47 AM »


Fields influence fields, there is no argument,
however you really need to see the picture below.....and realize this END ON view of  AC TRANSMISSION LINES is nearly 100% same as a permanent magnet

only difference is some spread because you have TWO WIRES rather than a super-binding sphere/cylinder etc etc "physical magnet"

Its only due to immense study of Platonic incommensurability I have a firm grip inverse moving conjugate fields in a binding magneto-dielectric geometry.
Its also a wholly LOST ART of thinking methodology called retroduction.


Depends on what you are connotating (or denotating) as  " STATIONARY "..... = equalization / equilibrium

Or "moving IN perfect equalibrium"

movement is an extrapolation of space AND time (>>>>>and therefore a resultant modality of a radiative field<<<<<<).........    Spacetime is a posterior attribute TO and OF radiative fields.....


This is where Einstein turned into a mental midget
, he reified the attribute (space) as THAT which "does stuff"    ;D  ;D

Chicken AND (NOT OR!!) Egg  situation  ;D  ;D

all movement is forcing fields against fields and getting = Induction, electrification, force etc etc etc.

What is the configuration of the magnet behind the viewing film in shot 1819?

Regarding field motion, relative to the bulk mass of the magnet, are the fields stationary? 

PW

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« Reply #581 on: July 25, 2014, 01:57:50 AM »
I am struck with wonder and awe at the beauty of this new window on the universe.
Thanks for sharing this inspiring work, Ken.
Bob

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #582 on: July 25, 2014, 02:23:37 AM »
If whatever emanates from the poles of a magnet has an actual physical spin as TA depicts, is it unreasonable to expect that two like poles in axial alignment and proximity would cause the magnets to spin?  Fairly easy to test.  If necessary it may also be possible to devise an experiment using open center cylindrical magnets wherein the "centripetal" field/flux is routed through the center of the cylindrical magnets to the opposing pole so that the majority of the flux being tested for rotation involves primarily the more external "centrifugal" flux.

As well, if there are indeed physically rotating fields, it would be reasonable to expect that two magnets placed side by side with their magnetic axes parallel and supported by bearings to rotate when brought into proximity.

If the vortex observed in all these experiments utilizing current flow to generate H2 exist solely as a property of the magnet alone, and not the interaction of electric/ion currents flowing in proximity to the magnet, should not that vortex or spin cause magnets aligned as above to also spin?

With the many attempts made to create PM only motors, why has this spin not yet been observed?

Possibly TA's diagrams refer only to motionless field polarities/vectors emanating to/from the magnetic poles.

PW


I was just tossing it in the ring PW.

It will take some time to go back and digest all that has been laid out amid the distractions.

Regards...


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #583 on: July 25, 2014, 02:50:20 AM »
What is the configuration of the magnet behind the viewing film in shot 1819?


You didnt read it above.     1819 is END ON view of AC transmission lines......same as running down your street

BUT that is also the cross section of a magnet,  top to bottom polarization ,   with the differences mentioned above,  that being the boundary of the physical magnet and the mutual centripetal and centrifugal reciprocation.

While accurate only END ON (the AC LINES) as a model of magnetism, the incommensurable magneto-dielectric "field of dielectricity" (Maxwell) is still correct and applicable.

There is no nucleal precession going on in AC transmission lines, (of course)


In the true 3D model of the magnet you would need ENDLESS trillions of AC lines all moving
"down the page (end on)"  and undergoing line (in this case nucleus) precession to get the centripetal and centrifugal field interlacing.



Regarding field motion, relative to the bulk mass of the magnet, are the fields stationary? 

The formulas for that are in Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenkos book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0917406230/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Motion only pertains to spatial fields,   there can be no MOTION in dielectricity unless, as Tesla did, create longitudinal superluminal transmissions, WHILE much faster than light, still have a speed, but that is relative to the induction potential of the Ether, and the field drag of both gravity and ambient magnetism limiting I.A.A.A.D from occurring.


Movement and magnetic precession is occurring , its often called Larmor Precession.

The classical vector properties of the angular momentum of a gyroscope are analogous to many of the important characteristics of the vector properties of the mechanical magnetic inertia. The reason for the close analogy is due to the important and critical connection between the dielectric inertial plane and the angular momentum due to the dielectric’s acceleration, or spin. For example, the rotating mass of a gyroscope possesses angular momentum, which can be represented by a vector whose direction is along the symmetry axis of rotation. A gyroscope in a field precesses, i.e., the axis of its rotation precesses around the direction of the counterspatial field. What factors determine the rate of precession of the gyroscope? The answer is the field force at the center of rotation and the inherent angular momentum of the gyroscope, or in this case the dielectric plane and its acceleration. If the angular momentum, which is determined by the angular velocity of spin and the mass of the gyroscope, is constant, the rate of precession ω is determined only by the centripetal field force, so that there is a proportionality between the rate of precession and the centripetal field force, where γ (compare to the magnetogyric ratio) is the scalar proportionality constant between the precessional frequency and the centripetal field force. ω (Larmor frequency) = γeH


Protons precess coherently when in the presence of a powerful dielectric field. The frequency at which the precession occurs is called the Larmor frequency. This causes an oscillating and precessing magnetic field that can be measured.

In electrification in the creation of a “magnet” not only are the XYZ vectors of magneto-dielectric inertial planes brought into coherency, so too are the directions of their dielectric ‘flywheels’ all amplified to the same direction. Just like our gyroscopic analogy, you can have 10 gyroscopes with their flywheels all spinning in different directions and yet their XYZ axis of the magneto-dielectric volumes are still aligned, however in touching all 10 at the same time, you will get variegated precessional incoherent reactions. However as is in the case with electrification and dielectric saturation in the creation of a “magnet”, all dielectric inter-atomic fields are accelerated in a singular pulse of phased dielectric coherency. This is also why CW on CW magnetic approaches causes immense Ether pressure resistance (counter-voidance), because the dielectric-momentum of all the many trillions of atoms in the “magnet” are resisting breaking torque from an outside pressure of counter-voidance. This is in-phase precession post-electrification in creating a magnet.

Gyromagnetic ratios, and magnetic precession is nothing of my discovery, this principle is part and parcel to all magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), nuclear magnetic resonance imaging (NMRI) technology, however the entire field of MRI technology is senseless and clueless that a permanent magnet exhibits this due to special magneto-dielectric field geometry. MRI use enormous power to generate these magnetic precessions, which field contrasts are then used to image and determine what is being scanned. Enormous pulsing power is used in the creation of MRI images, however a single large pulse is used to create an identical precessional magnetic geometry in the permanent magnet. As is the case with most technology, things are discovered and perfected without actually understanding or caring about the principles behind them.


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« Reply #584 on: July 25, 2014, 04:41:11 AM »
I will be doing many more test this weekend PW, and will include your seguestions
Also keep in mind everyone, that the magnet produces only H2, but we still have 2 spin diretions of H2 bubbles. This can only mean that it is the water that the force is acting against. It is also ovious thst an electrical current is needed to achieve spin in my setup. None the less, ATM it seems that the right hand dosnt apply to one of these spin directions