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Author Topic: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos  (Read 1579745 times)

steeltpu

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #525 on: July 23, 2014, 07:22:51 PM »
Now you have committed a mortal sin, in addition to not being able to spell the disease you claim your wife died from.

From the WIKI:There are probably no cases of survival past five years from diagnosis for glio. There are mis-diagnoses, but no survivors. Ten years? You are trading on your wife's disease (if you even ever were married) for sympathy and excuses,  and you are probably lying about it to boot.

tinsel shi*  you are a real piece of excrement.  you qualify as the lowest form of life i've ever seen on the internet.  unbelievable !!!!!!!!!!!!   you are obviously a very sore loser.  you can't come up with anything that doesn't get blown out of the water by theoria so you stoop to this kind of crap.  calling him out for a one letter misspelling on a disease that slowly took his wife's life?    i can't think of bad enough words to describe such a pos as you.  mold is a higher form of life than you.  it's an insult to mold to even compare you to it.  FU

Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #526 on: July 23, 2014, 07:38:35 PM »
The truth of the matter actually is that TA "used his wife's illness" to defend himself from another scurrilous accusation from TK.

And...if he did not - then he would have been labeled a liar for the next ten posts or so by a host of forum dingos.

While TK used the illness of someone else merely to attempt to do some damage control to try to salvage whatever credibility he had left, which he just ran through the shredder.

Regards...
 


TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #527 on: July 23, 2014, 07:45:06 PM »
The Genius has more than once used his wife's illness as an excuse


I mentioned her once in passing, and secondly as a half-joke premise FOR WHY I have been too busy.  Pathetic

It is far more likely that her tumor was not actually glioblastoma, than that she survived for ten years, and this is an actual medical opinion.

Well suuuuuure,  Im sure that the TWO LABS used (yes, two) to confirm it as a NASTY Glioblastoma tumor were WRONG,   and your wild ass guess is RIGHT ??!!!

Thats REAL SCIENCE ehhh?     YOUR GUESS   vs.  2 LABS

And posting those photos? Think about that for a while. That is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen on this website. Not because of her image, but because, once again, TA is USING HER ILLNESS for his own purposes.

How does that work SON?  I posted the photos to PROVE you are >>>>>>>>> A: a LIAR, and  >>>>>>>>> B: DISPROVE you calling me a liar <<<<<<   


Im not SELLING anything to anyone here in case you forgot.....,    ****pretty damn sure my dead wife has NOTHING AT ALL to do with magnetism****  or the work I stand behind,  NOR DID I CLAIM IT DID.


I recall making ONE reference to my wife ( I could have made 2, but 1 was an answer to a question), .......>>I DONT RECALL using her as a support system for my work<<.........what kind of INSANITY IS THAT????????



Heres your FINAL PROOF,  since (like a true Skeptic) you always need  "mooooooore proof" of something.     Heres her badge from her job,  sitting on top of her ASHES


Maybe I invented that too??,   since you're the second person to accuse me of being an illusionist / hoaxer . 


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john_doe

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #529 on: July 24, 2014, 02:24:34 AM »
What i need is a big 2 or 3 inch neo to do these test with-that would look awsome. But as per usual,i cant get one that size here in OZ-all out of stock apparently lol.

Tinman,
I have 24 3"x2" in the cupboard. I've got some bigger ones but I'm using them. You're welcome to "borrow" most of what I have for testing if you don't break it or yourself

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« Reply #530 on: July 24, 2014, 03:11:49 AM »
You have no idea about my own illnesses or the friends and loved ones I have lost myself, because I DO NOT MENTION THEM HERE. Think about that. The Tattooed Genius has more than once used his wife's illness as an excuse for something he could not do or to tell us how much he has suffered in his "research" or whatever. So it's fair game for comment criticism and discussion. I don't give a flying fuck if people I DO NOT RESPECT similarly disrespect me, and the person who uses their own illnesses or especially the illnesses of their loved ones as some kind of excuse -- is putting themselves out for exactly what they have received from me. Challenging the facts and the claims.
My own experience with losing a loved one to glioblastoma, and others to AIDS, are stories that one or two of the posters on this forum know about, and this is the only time I have mentioned it publicly. Ditto with my own death-defying brushes with illness and my own disabilities, poverty and whatever. They are simply not valid topics for discussion and they are especially not valid excuses, as the Tattooed Genius has used his wife's illness and his devotion to her. And that is why I posted the reference to longterm survival. It is far more likely that her tumor was not actually glioblastoma, than that she survived for ten years, and this is an actual medical opinion.
And posting those photos? Think about that for a while. That is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen on this website. Not because of her image, but because, once again, TA is USING HER ILLNESS for his own purposes.

I normally won't get involved in a dispute on a forum because to be frank, internet personae don't mean anything without the time you've invested in them.
It's just plain silly to forget the basic fact that you're all upset about the time you've invested into this forum not being "recognised" by someone that's new and simply doesn't feel the same way about the internet.
TA is overexcited because he sees the possibilities for future avenues of science. He probably doesn't understand the correlation between the time you guys have invested and probably just doesn't care if you're offended.

That being said; I have a sister that has suffered with the same condition that was given 5 years also. She's just turned 22 and was diagnosed at 14. I also have a daughter with Cystic Fibrosis that has a life expectancy of 25. 

I was hit by a car traveling at 100k/h on my motorbike and now suffer more pain than most can even contemplate and avoid ALL communication with the outside world for THEIR safety. IE: If someone cuts me off or were stupid enough to do something wrong to me it would be a very bad day for them.

In other words, time is more valuable than money. Patience is something I just don't have anymore and stupidity is likely to direct you to the hospital if you're around me because the world made me hurt so (if you believe in such things) god help you if you do something wrong by me.

Moving forward:
I understand TA's position and have very little patience for people myself. All he has asked everyone on this forum is to read a 100ish page book, give it some of your valuable time and if you have ideas / concerns or want to discuss it he's available.

Not that hard really.....
PS:
I intentionally put spelling mistakes in.
Derailing someone is easy. Understanding someone else's position is hard.
There are many scientists that lost valuable positions in science because of the exact attitudes that have been shown here. It's amazing that most on this forum can't seem to realise that we're the only ones interested in bringing about "new energy" "free energy" ideas and giving them to the public. If we don't work with each other, it's never going to happen until it can be controlled, or the population can be controlled.

Putting resources toward an interest is the main reason people want to "earn" (money) TA might want to be "in charge" of funneling some of that money toward cancer research? No one knows another persons intentions.
Excitement isn't an excuse to push people away though. Which is all I can see he's done. (He doesn't want people to get too close, anyone can see it)

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #531 on: July 24, 2014, 04:05:45 AM »

In other words, time is more valuable than money. Patience is something I just don't have anymore and stupidity is likely to direct you to the hospital if you're around me because the world made me hurt so (if you believe in such things) god help you if you do something wrong by me.

Moving forward:
I understand TA's position and have very little patience for people myself. All he has asked everyone on this forum is to read a 100ish page book, give it some of your valuable time and if you have ideas / concerns or want to discuss it he's available.



Everyone has been thru the "meat grinder" of life differently, some not at all, some a lot.....etc.
Just because someone is a grumpy asshole on a web forum doesn't mean that is who they are at all.



All those cruel sadistic SOB that end up in jail because there were "bodies found" etc in their basement, etc........... Neighbors always say on the TV news....... "Ohhh, he was such a good neighbor, SO KIND"


Its the "nice / kind people"  I trust the least, often they're two-faced as hell.     ;D

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #532 on: July 24, 2014, 04:29:28 AM »
Theo A came here presenting a sizable volume of research and was immediately confronted with this forums worst nitpicker knowitall and naysayer, who presented nothing but antagonistic needling, followed by others of his kind and an assortment of gullible followers duped into drinking their kool aid...one of which finally saw the value in what TA was saying and decided to try something.

And what do you know, he made a significant discovery.


TA quote:

" I am not part of the "free energy" crowd of fools and nut jobs, and genuine overunity is impossible.   One might get "overunity" by drawing enormous power from natural sourced, but thats just "free movement" coupling.

I never mention free energy, or alternative energy, or overunity etc etc. "



Until recently, I personally believed that that 'free energy' from the ether was attainable.

That is not to say my position was not open to change when presented with reason to question my position by someone demonstrating an unusual degree of knowledge and experience...otherwise I would be offended by that judgement, and become just another ego driven guy arguing my position, and being called 'son' by someone likely younger than I.

Oh, the ignominy !

Knowing when to shut up and listen is the key to learning.

And unless people are allowed to freely express their ideas nothing will be learned.

I am also aware of Tesla's statement regarding connecting with the wheel work of nature, and until recently failed to realize that my idea of free energy wasn't actually free at all...it just needed a small input to start the wheel work moving.

Position modified...there is no free energy...but there is really really really cheap energy.

Now maybe we can get something done...together !

Regards...


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #533 on: July 24, 2014, 05:27:19 AM »
It's a good thing to challenge ideas, and that's a two-way street.  But the notion that challenging someone's ideas automatically shuts down what they are doing is false.  If someone is passionate and knowledgeable about their subject then they should be able to defend their position without a freak-out or playing one of many "cards" that can be played.

Likewise if someone presents themselves as some kind of high-thinker or some kind of authority on a subject, or they present themselves as someone very knowledgeable about some kind of new area of study in a given field, then they are clearly suggesting that they know what they are talking about.  If you suspect that they don't know what they are talking about and it's all a sham, then a few litmus test questions can reveal a lot about the person presenting the proposition.  Are they real or is it all just peacock strutting nonsense?

Take the example of "Fix the World" and the Quantum Energy Generator.  The whole thing is complete nonsense.  James Robitaille was presented to the world as some kind of electrical engineering genius inspired by Tesla.  However, his paper trail has shown that to clearly be a FAKE.

Take the example of Daniel Nunez and selling his bird's next coils for $300-$600 a pop.  All that you have to do, with the caveat that you must know your stuff, is watch a few Nunez clips and you quickly realize that he is totally clueless, he is a FAKE.  He just wants an easy way to make money.

Take the example of the "Quanta Magnetics" guy.  He builds beautiful pulse/Bedini motors that do nothing special and he charges a fortune for them.  But yet again, he is totally clueless and has no idea what he is doing or how the motors he builds actually work.  He just wants a way to make easy money.

Daniel Nunez and the Quanta Magnetics guy would croak if they were asked any serious questions about what they are doing.  Yet it's arguable that both of them have a leadership role and many people look up to them.

And you have seen the same pattern on this forum.  Somebody has a "wild" new proposition.  Okay, let's do some due diligence and ask them a few questions.  If they croak when they get the questions then you know there is a serious problem.

We can't just swim in ignorance like a bunch of Bozo fish on dope.  It helps people that don't know one way or the other to learn from the discussion.

It's like how many people can possibly keep track of what the best motherboard and memory is if you want to build a high-end PC.  Do you spend a week reading online trying to figure it all out or do you call up your unbiased friend that builds PCs on a regular basis?

So those are some of the issues to consider.  I have qualified this thread and the person behind it and it's a farce.  Farce or not, many people have left the thread from the constant abuse.

This thread has nowhere to go because there is no substance behind it.  Whether it is just pure buffonery for the sake of ego or if it is sincere but ridiculously misdirected "research" is hard to tell.  Either way, rational comments about the truth behind the matter contribute real value to this forum.  The nitpicking is coming from the other side of the fence.

You can always cast your eyes to the side if it suits you.

MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #534 on: July 24, 2014, 05:28:36 AM »
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And what do you know, he made a significant discovery.

Tinman has not discovered anything at all.  He is just exploring how current flow and magnetic fields interact and having fun doing it.  You insult science when you make stupid or ignorant statements like that.

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« Reply #535 on: July 24, 2014, 05:32:25 AM »
Take the example of Daniel Nunez and selling his bird's next coils for $300-$600 a pop.
Take the example of the "Quanta Magnetics" guy.  He builds beautiful pulse/Bedini motors that do nothing special and he charges a fortune for them.


You SEE me trying to SELL ANYTHING HERE?     NO

Will I ?       NO and DOUBLE NO




This thread has nowhere to go because there is no substance behind it.


100,000 % Bullshit 
         TinMan got "inspired" of/regarding into about conjugate magnetic vortex,...............and came up with new stuff INSTANTLY

I have sitting in the back 'wings' here multiple potential patents, and 2 "100% certain patents"


There is an ENTIRELY NEW transmission device based upon the Z-axis radial dielectric modulation (as I mention at the end of the book) by another person WHO ALREADY HAS A PATENT on the device

I was just on the phone with him today for almost 2 hours.
He already owns 8 patents.   He has MORE CRED than ALL OF YOU PUT TOGETHER


So,  TRIPLE BULLSHIT on your last.


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« Reply #536 on: July 24, 2014, 05:38:53 AM »
Tinman has not discovered anything at all.


Nice CLAIM, but regardless of being wrong about Tinman............I however have, but unlike his kind heart, I'm not disclosing unfolding immanent patents online to anyone.


....and the other (I will not name him) person I was on the phone with just some hours ago,  he DOES HAVE A just-received PATENT based upon magnetic deflection of a radial dielectric in TEM



You insult science and experimenters / inventors when you make stupid or ignorant statements like that.

MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #537 on: July 24, 2014, 05:41:15 AM »
Who says you have to sell anything for money?  If you are not asking for money does that give someone legitimacy?

The answer is no, whether or not you are selling something is not relevant - what is relevant is what you are stating and if it makes sense or not.

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« Reply #538 on: July 24, 2014, 05:47:42 AM »
If you are not asking for money does that give someone legitimacy?

Tell me boy, WHEN did YOU become the "printing press" for the currency of LEGITIMACY ???   ;D


Yeah, thats right,... you're petting your knob with that premise.



Heres a mental image,   you and me in front of a crowd,.
......Im debating the premise of magnetic centrifugal and centripetal vortex field conjugation

You, against same....



I have the logic,  LOTS of physical models, and testing equipment for the crowd to see, LOTS,   and some not even mentioned here.
What do you have?     So far only this:  "hes wrong"

I dont gamble, but I'd bet the farm on the outcome of that conference.

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« Reply #539 on: July 24, 2014, 05:47:49 AM »
I am encouraging Tinman to do what he is doing.  Picowatt explained why there was no Lorentz force on the water to get it to form a vortex in the case of the solenoid.  That will likely be confirmed through good experiments soon.  That took the wind out of your victory jig.

There is no insulting of science going on - you saw good science the other day while we discussed the possibilities and explored possible explanations and suggested new tests - while you sat mute on the sidelines - another litmus test in action.