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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #495 on: July 22, 2014, 02:22:58 PM »
Ken
That"s the _money shot
You in NYC ATM ?

No, in Ft. Myers Florida not far from Sanibel Island,  Also I live up north (well, kinda up north).    I cant stand the rainy season right now at my home in Ft. Myers  .......rains non stop for 4 months

Well, I have a 3 chip camcorder, I was going to use that for the video, but i need the LARGER DEMO back from my associate I created that hes testing.

Hes testing it for cold and heat, and how it holds up, before we can consider marketing it.

Ive made 2 diff. types of field demo fluids, but they get RUINED if they get too hot.......that also ruins their potential for marketability.
My fave is the ALCOHOL based one above, (not for vortex however), but DONT get it hot, or it will ruin it.   Leave it in a hot car, etc....

But, hell, theyre only $1 each to make.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #496 on: July 22, 2014, 02:35:17 PM »
Ken
not trying to mess with your lively hood ,its just that I love tools and measurement


and this fluid will help us to see the fields in motion  and how they react to experiments.


that makes it a tool  and


priceless............


thx
Chet


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #497 on: July 22, 2014, 06:23:51 PM »
@TA

This is my last post on this thread because I see you are on a cloud, looking at things but not understanding why they do what they do, and, even when one attempts to explain, you just ignore everything is if nothing was said. So it is obvious you really do not want to talk shop with anyone serious and would prefer to entertain the masses. David Copperfield did that well indeed creating illusions and calling them magic.

So you have a tube with fluid and magnetic particles that are on the top of your vial and by GRAVITY mass starts to fall but since it is in such a confided are, the falling particles displace fluid that has no other place to go then up. But once the particles get near enough to the magnet, then, call it "magnetic attraction" is pulling on those particles so you get a fine line going down while the fluid is still displaced going up.

You must have needed just enough dust to reach a critical point to produce the effect otherwise to little dust and that smaller trailer would  have fallen down so fast and to much dust and the shown effect would have been too short. So I am sure you played around with the quantity in the vial to get this effect going.

Hmmmmm. You obviously don't know who I am.

That's it man. Tell me, if you leave the tube like that, will all the particles eventually fall to the base of the tube? Yes they will. So where is the force you are talking about creating an upwards vortex. If there was an upward vortex, there should be a vortex rising well above when all the particles are down. There is none. Your optics is just based on what you want to see and not what is really going on. Same goes with the TV patterns of a magnet. They are not magnetic patterns, they are TV patterns when an equal force is applied at one spot (black) onto the pixels and the variable is only angularity from that point outwards. Same goes for your space/field conjectures. So for me, you have nothing man. You obviously did not do your homework and your exposé is just a rabid attempt at plugging all the holes your ideas have generated and from there you will be plugging holes for a long long time to come.

Funny thing though, a theory is supposed to dispel previous notions or clarify present notions or create a new notion. Unfortunately none of that is possible here so for that reason, since time is money, "I'm out". 

I'd rather live in the real world then your world of "freebyisms".

wattsup

PS: I am very disappointed that you did not wind up being someone I could talk to. I have been looking for someone with enough brains to do just that, but, too bad for that. And yeh yeh, I know, I'm the problem because you iz so perfect. Enjoy yourself.

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #498 on: July 22, 2014, 07:46:31 PM »
Ken
not trying to mess with your lively hood ,its just that I love tools and measurement
and this fluid will help us to see the fields in motion  and how they react to experiments.
priceless............
Chet



Oh no, no worries, you're fine.    My NEW solution to show magnetic vortex movement last night still works great

BUT i need to heat test it a bit, otherwise I cannot market it.


however, it works perfect because it creates VERY FINE loooooong thin strings as it flows to the magnetic centripetal, and thats awesome for showing vortex movement.


Awesome time !!  :o  ;D

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #499 on: July 22, 2014, 07:57:08 PM »
@TA
This is my last post on this thread because I see you are on a cloud, looking at things but not understanding

Nice BS claim.    Have any videos or logic or proof to backup that BS?

why they do what they do, and, even when one attempts to explain, you just ignore everything is if nothing was said. So it is obvious you really do not want to talk shop with anyone serious and would prefer to entertain the masses. David Copperfield did that well indeed creating illusions and calling them magic.


Ohhhhhhhhh so now Im a fucking ILLUSIONIST out to mind-scr3w people???????          ~~~~~~~~~~~Ahhhhhhhhhh    Another NICE  F-ing claim.

Yeah, I spent ALL those years waiting just to TRICK YOU FOLKS.      STFU loser. 

I do the work and experiments, I have both the logic, the proof AND THE RESULTS,       you have  JACK SH*T 


Magic tricks my goddamn ass boy.    I guess you think I mined SCR3WED  TinMan too??????????   AND his video results?????

Demented  POS.


So you have a tube with fluid and magnetic particles that are on the top of your vial and by GRAVITY mass starts to fall but since it is in such a confided are, the falling particles displace fluid that has no other place to go then up. But once the particles get near enough to the magnet, then, call it "magnetic attraction" is pulling on those particles so you get a fine line going down while the fluid is still displaced going up. 


I currently have 13 diff. testing METHODS, moron.      Not "A TUBE"     Got that son???

Son, boy,   I use PLENTY OF METHODS that have NOTHING to with A: zapped magnets    OR   B: fluid suspensions.

Again, shut your hole.     You have BS claims and NOTHING MORE, go sit and spin on them.



Hmmmmm. You obviously don't know who I am.
 


Yes I do, youre the fucking idiot that thinks Im an "Illusionist" out to trick people........   just like Tinman and HIS VIDEOS HE DID HIMSELF

Shut your hole.

You DONT HAVE:
logic
proof
evidence
You dont have ANYTHING to back up your half-ass claims




Illusionist,  I REALLY LIKE THAT ONE.................   Demented intellectual PEDOPHILE.........I KNEW given enough time, one of you demented bastards would call me a "magician / Illusionist"

I know 100%  how  Skepticism works, how SOPHISTRY WORKS.

As a consumate expert of Platonism, translator of ancient Greek, expert on PLOTINUS, PROCLUS, DAMASCIUS, SYRIANUS, their works, and their methods, and all the various types of Skepticism, and Atomism they dealt with, I know EVERY SINGLE rancid angle you have, or WILL have , or could have.



That's it man. Tell me, if you leave the tube like that, will all the particles eventually fall to the base of the tube? Yes they will. So where is the force you are talking about creating an upwards vortex. If there was an upward vortex, there should be a vortex rising well above when all the particles are down. There is none. Your optics is just based on what you want to see and not what is really going on. Same goes with the TV patterns of a magnet. They are not magnetic patterns, they are TV patterns when an equal force is applied at one spot (black) onto the pixels and the variable is only angularity from that point outwards. Same goes for your space/field conjectures. So for me, you have nothing man. You obviously did not do your homework and your exposé is just a rabid attempt at plugging all the holes your ideas have generated and from there you will be plugging holes for a long long time to come.
 


Youre forgetting ONE IMPORTANT FACT ASSHOLE, they are not just coming down, but coming down in a CW vortex  OR a CCW vortex (depending on polarity)
That ends that horseshit.

Too bad your goddamn premise about the CRT TUBE  doesn't explain  CW on the centrifugal and CCW on the centripetal ON ONE FACE of the magnet !!!!!!!!  ROFL !!!!!!

One could postulate it as correct if it was ALL MOVING in one direction, but not BOTH inversely at the SAME TIME

So much for that rancid BS.

You flap your fucking lips,  I DO the experiments, .....and there are PLENTY MORE I have not mentioned here due to seeking potential patent rights.
You're nothing but tits on a bull, ....useless



PS: I am very disappointed that you did not wind up being someone I could talk to. I have been looking for someone with enough brains to do just that, but, too bad for that. And yeh yeh, I know, I'm the problem because you iz so perfect. Enjoy yourself.


 I am very disappointed that you dont have a brain.   You are yet another skeptical LOSER in the CULT OF QUANTUM.

Actually Im not, I dont give a damn  ;D  ;D

If I had a 10000 testing methods , youd say "ohhh, well that doesnt prove shit"



I know your type son.  Ive been debating Greek Metaphysics, and translating Prakrit for almost 15 years now, and debated the BEST MINDS alive on highly abstruse topics of nonlinear inductive reasoning and complex topics in Platonic philosophy.

That translates into:   "I can run circles around your ass in ANY debate you want".   

However LOGIC, PROOF, RESULTS, and EXPERIMENTS matter.........the rest is just you flapping your pathetic lips


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tinman

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #500 on: July 22, 2014, 10:12:40 PM »
@ TA

Im sorry cobba,but im done here. I held great interest in this subject,as i believe you put forward a good case. But looking at the way you speak to those that i concider friends here,it's just turning me off going any further. To get to the truth,we must listen to both sides of the argument-but i feel one side has now gone.

If what i have done can help you out in any way,feel free to use it as you will.

Good luck in your quest.
Brad

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #501 on: July 22, 2014, 10:16:00 PM »
@ TA

Im sorry cobba,but im done here. I held great interest in this subject,as i believe you put forward a good case. But looking at the way you speak to those that i concider friends here,it's just turning me off going any further.
Good luck in your quest.
Brad


I understand your position, and it is understandable.   ;)

I am a rusty door to be sure in any debate.     Actually however very kind and very giving in person.  (Too kind and too giving actually).


Your position is correct, logical, and understood.   ;)




You had my respect before, during and after.    (Not that you care[d])     

Cheers to you and your great work.     Thumbs up.

But, dont let me being a "rusty door" keep you from working in that arena and experimenting, and INVENTING...

I hope you make the next "BIG X" and make a bucket of cash!!     Honestly I do.




To get to the truth,we must listen to both sides of the argument
Brad



But, there were never  "TWO SIDES" in this thread
.   

There is/was 

A: my premise, evidences, experiments.
Your evidences, your testing.

B:    Other people flapping their lips,  that is not "ANOTHER SIDE",............



I slaughtered their "sacred cow" of GR and QM, of  "particle mysticism"   ;D  ;D  ;D



There never was here any "two sides"  :)
As I stated on page 1 here, I'm not out to convince anyone 

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #502 on: July 22, 2014, 10:38:16 PM »
Theoria have you tried, or considered suspending your giant neo magnet
and letting your new solution reset while under the neo? 

Might be interesting to watch.

Mike

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #503 on: July 22, 2014, 10:59:19 PM »
@ TA

Im sorry cobba,but im done here. I held great interest in this subject,as i believe you put forward a good case. But looking at the way you speak to those that i concider friends here,it's just turning me off going any further. To get to the truth,we must listen to both sides of the argument-but i feel one side has now gone.

If what i have done can help you out in any way,feel free to use it as you will.

Good luck in your quest.
Brad

Tinman,

I believe I will have to follow suit.  This could have been a pleasant process, but the OP's abusive nature is just way too difficult to deal with.  We should at least be able to ask what flavor the Kool-Aid is before drinking it.

Thanks for taking the time to perform the experiments and posting your results.

PW

   

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #504 on: July 22, 2014, 11:05:28 PM »
We should at least be able to ask what flavor the kool-Aid is before drinking it.


 I will quote E. Dollard    "I dont care WHAT you believe, go test and experiment yourself"


Got it?      I'm not a hooker trying to win a "pretty" contest.       I put it out there, like it, dont like it.   Dont care
Hate me,  also don't care.   I will continue to do the work,  what you like, hate, dont like, does'nt matter.



If you DARE think I wanted to win a popularity contest / personality contest with ANYONE here,    that is YOUR fault.


not mine.  ;D


TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #505 on: July 22, 2014, 11:09:03 PM »
Theoria have you tried, or considered suspending your giant neo magnet
and letting your new solution reset while under the neo? 
Might be interesting to watch.

Mike


The Giant NEO is heavy and a dangerous beast, BUT, the giant neo has LARGE VOLUME of magnetism (N48) over a LARGE AREA
However its velocity is low, relatively, at the centrifugal edge.

Also such a HUGE magnet, has a LARGE intermediate centrifugal field between centripetal and centrifugal

It has impressive volume of magnetism, but its power is mostly around its "danger" of hurting you.
However, its volume is so large, it affects a CRT tube from 15 feet away.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #506 on: July 22, 2014, 11:12:14 PM »

Actually however very kind and very giving in person.  (Too kind and too giving actually).

You'd have a very hard time proving this based on your many abusive posts in this thread.

It was, at least, good for a chuckle...

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #507 on: July 22, 2014, 11:17:01 PM »
You'd have a very hard time proving this based on your posts in thread.

It was, at least, good for a chuckle...


You dont know me son, you never talked or met me. 


Again, I really dont care.   I've got some mind blowing stuff I've invented I havent even mentioned in this entire thread.    And wont.



A:  Im not selling ANYONE ANYTHING

B: Dont care what you think, feel, believe about me OR the work.

C:  Go experiment yourself, go do the work.

D: Popularity contests are for
-    Hookers, Politicians, Actors, and someone you are DATING........... I am none of those.


If you wanna piss and moan about a book I gave away for free,   FINE.     
Still, not selling you anything,   not trying to convince you of anything.


Go find out for yourself.

MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #508 on: July 22, 2014, 11:49:59 PM »
Tinman:

Not sure if you have moved on in your set of experiments but let me suggest this:

With the electromagnet you notice that the core has what appears to be a bit less than one centimeter of exposed shaft on each end.  Note that the one centimeter of exposed shaft gives you two surfaces that allow for current flow into the electrolyte, the flat top surface and the cylindrical side surface.  It appears that that specific geometry for the exposed current-conducting surfaces will allow current to flow into the electrolyte in nearly the same 3D pattern as the magnetic field.  In other words, the current flow vectors and the magnetic field vectors line up very nicely like this and therefore you get no vortex.

I also note that you did a clip where the magnet (I think) was wrapped in tape so only the flat top surface was exposed and you still got a vortex, but it was clearly different from the first vortex you observed.  Knowing that, it would tend to suggest that if you used insulating tape on the ends of the electromagnet core such that only the top and bottom flat surfaces where exposed, then you will likely observe a vortex.

It would appear that with the electromagnet, the particular geometry was a "fluke" and you got no observable vortex.  It's fascinating how geometry has come into play in such a dramatic way in this particular example.

If you are temped to make the test you may want to simply create a new thread to avoid the high-strung feeling on this thread.

MileHigh

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #509 on: July 23, 2014, 07:35:27 AM »
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As a consumate expert of Platonism, translator of ancient Greek, expert on PLOTINUS, PROCLUS, DAMASCIUS, SYRIANUS, their works, and their methods, and all the various types of Skepticism, and Atomism they dealt with, I know EVERY SINGLE rancid angle you have, or WILL have , or could have.
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All that... and you still don't know how to enable your spellchecker?