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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #465 on: July 22, 2014, 10:39:48 AM »
Regarding diametric magnetized magnet..



or the special nature of HD magnets


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #466 on: July 22, 2014, 10:50:39 AM »
A bit early to draw any conclusions, don't you think?  That would be a typical newbie experimenter mistake.


Yeah, Im sure Tinmans video is a BIG LIE  (not a chance in hell)   ;D  ;D


LET ME QUOTE YOU from earlier::::::::
If this is correct, taping the sides of the neo should reduce the current flow perpendicular to the neo's magnetic axis, reducing or eliminating the torque/electrolyte spin and vortex.



I knew it would be the same, as said, because the CENTRIPETAL on both sides is the "portal" (as analogy) of reintegration AND charge which perpetuates the incommensurable magneto-dielectric geometry of the "magnet".



One can see that the amount of electrolyte spinning at the sides (of the neo (and in general) greatly reduced when the tape was applied.  This tends to support the homopolar torque speculation.  However, it is too soon to draw any solid conclusions.


NO WAY........ITS NOT "SPINNING AT THE SIDES" its the bubbles from the OTHER SIDES vortex, AGAINST THE PLATE, which are rising!!!!!   ROFL!!!!!!
"duhhh".   ;D  ;D


Current is still flowing in the presence of a magnetic field, and in the tape covered neo, As tinman noted, there now appears to be a series of smaller vortices generated when the tape is applied to the neo, as opposed to the more general and singular overall spin observed when the tape was not applied to the neo.  It also appears that the vortices generated are closer to the edge of the tape covered neo where current flow continues to more so perpendicular to the magnetic axis. 


thats because he has PART OF the centrifugal edge of the NEO covered in tape, OF WHICH the hydrogen bubbles are disturbed by.

You can see that in nature, when a giant tornado gets blasted and disturbed, it can form many smaller tornados like a 3 or 4 fingers diverging from one larger tornado.

he just needs to removed a VERY SMALL hair of tape from the centrifugal edge.

You can SEE he has the   >>>very edge<<<<  taped off.    LOOK IN THE VIDEO, its as clear as day.





The character of the observed vortex did indeed change when the tape was applied.   

NOPE, he did NOT tape just the SIDE, but ALSO THE LIP OF THE EDGE of the centrifugal



see pic below:


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #467 on: July 22, 2014, 11:00:00 AM »

Damn your are DUMB

Its CALLED A MAGNETIZER,    dummy.    Because it it used to to create magnets.     It DOES SO by CHARGED INDUCTION   dummy


DIRECTLY???????


Define DIRECTLY  son?????????  ROFL !!!!!

How did you think a magnetizer works?  Temporary magnetization or creating a permanent magnet, ....the fields of dielectricity and magnetism are ALIGNED to create acceleration to the electomagnet (from iron for example).


An inductive charge is placed from the cap banks, thru the coils and THRU the "magnet" , of which a portion of the charge is left "permanently" remaining.

Just like running a fast river for an instant in the sand, leaving a permanent "mark", in this case, the "mark" is the dis-equilibrium of the magneto-dielectric in and of the (now) "magnet".


Let me WISE YOU THE HECK up (no offense, honestly)  ....



 CONTACT electrification, and INDUCTION electrification are  BOTH #&*@(@(@  ELECTRIFICATION


Great, so now that we agree that the machine depicted is indeed a magnetizer, perhaps you will answer my question.

Regarding the magnetizer depicted in the images you posted, do you believe electrical current is passed between the two large iron pole pieces of the magnetizer thru the magnet being magnetized?

I only asked for clarification, because it sure sounded like that is indeed what you were saying (you even added an expletive to force the point).  It sounded like you believed that the capacitors are discharged directly thru the item being magnetized, which is not the case.

The magnetizer is just a large electromagnet made with a soft ferro core about which a coil or coils are wound.  The ends of the core terminate at the two large iron pole pieces visible on the machine depicted in the images you posted.  The item being magnetized is placed across the pole pieces and a brief discharge of current is passed thru the coil(s) of the magnetizer's electromagnet, which magnetizes the item between the electromagnet's pole pieces.  If the item is such that it can retain the magnetism, it becomes a PM.

At no time during the use of the magnetizer is the electrical current discharged from the caps passed directly thru the item being magnetized.

A permanent magnet of sufficiently high strength could instead be used to replace the electromagnet of the magnetizer, and it would also, in a similar fashion, magnetize the new magnet.  It would, however, be very difficult to remove the new magnet from the pole pieces of a powerful permanent magnet, so an electromagnet is used instead.

I'm off to bed...

PW

 

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #468 on: July 22, 2014, 11:12:31 AM »
TA,

Clearly the character of the vortex changed when the tape was applied.

I'll read more of the responses you posted tomorrow, but from what I already read, all I can say is that kicking and screaming like the youngster you are and throwing an apparent hissy fit is not science. 

I'll spend some more time thinking about Tinman's experiment tomorrow.

For now I'm off to bed.

PW

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #469 on: July 22, 2014, 11:13:25 AM »
The item being magnetized is placed across the pole pieces and a brief discharge of current is passed thru the coil(s) of the magnetizer's electromagnet, which magnetizes the item between the electromagnet's pole pieces.  If the item is such that it can retain the magnetism, it becomes a PM.

Dead wrong son.      Brief LARGE AMOUNT OF CURRENT you mean.

You're as clueless as a goddamn lemming.     You dont (still) GET the fucking word  "MAGNETIZE" ,   Magnetization (as implied resultant magnetism in the "magnet")  is the TERMINATION OF ELECTRICITY moron.......... Even a 8th grade book on electricity will tell you that son.


How the FUCK did you think you created a FINGER CRUSHING NEO MAGNET????
    Its inductively CHARGED at the dielectric from the Cap banks, to the coils INTO the Magnet.


Magnetism is the RESULTANT FROM ANOTHER.   There is no such bullshit as "magnetism" occuring (on its own)

Magnetism is SPATIAL, is RADIATION, is the TERMINATION / DEAD END of   either A: dielectric amplification   B: discharge termination of electrical current (into X)


Dont you even fucking know how  AC power lines SPREAD APART when the current is altered????????????  Guess what is "spreading the lines apart" ?????  Magnetism

GUESS NOW what the fuck is CAUSING THEM to spread apart.   


You have poo between your ears.


Let me give you a fucking heads up on the word  "ELECTROMAGNET"........OK,     Its OVERWHELMINGLY ELECTRICAL, with resultant strong magnetic (temporary) charge.


Yes, moron, the magnet is electrically INDUCED BY the ELECTRIC INDUCTION from the ELECTO-magnet.    Wise the ever loving hell up boy.




A permanent magnet of sufficiently high strength could instead be used to replace the electromagnet of the magnetizer, and it would also, in a similar fashion, magnetize the new magnet.  It would, however, be very difficult to remove the new magnet from the pole pieces of a powerful permanent magnet, so an electromagnet is used instead.


Thanks for that "no shit" heads up.      NOW ask how you create a (very WEAK) permanent magnet with a STRONG magnet???????

YOU STROKE IT with the strong magnet and align the dielectricity in a coherent fashion in the steel bar ,etc,...    to create resultant macro-magnetic polarization


Ohhhhhhhh, and WHY IS A MAGNET MADE THIS WAY SO STINKING WEAK IN POWER??????????????    because it was not, IS NOT, HAS NOT been electrified from a HUGE inductive electrical DUMP



You however, have been stroking something else.    and its NOT the books.    ;D  ;D






The question becomes, of the two diagrams below, one being graphed, the other showing iron filings on the left, which of the two
is showing the cross section of a permanent magnet, and which is showing current moving in opposite directions as in AC lines (blue
representing the dielectric, and red the magnetic)? The answer is that both are showing both current moving in opposite directions and
the cross section along the Z-axis of a permanent magnet.


In the iron filings illustration on the left, you need only connect the two
conductive AC wires with a line (however in 3D it would be a flattened toroidal accretion disk) and you have the XY-axis ‘accretion
disk’ of dielectric counterspatial, inertial, radial, and centripetal dominance and the vertically expansive spatial, circular, centrifugal
(and centripetal) and polarized magnetic reciprocating field. Of the diagram on the right, you need only connect the two AC
conductive wires with a line once again, and compress vertically, the blue dielectric lines into a flatter profile to fit the dielectric
geometry into a magnetic mass (or “magnet”) rather than free hanging space AC lines. Both illustrations are that of field or currents
(both Ether in nature) moving in opposite directions and the cross section of a permanent magnet. Likewise in an alternating current
situation, the feed lines are pressing apart in free hanging space which allows for more magnetism (whereas current in the same
direction, the current lines are pulled together which allows for more dielectric storage). This electrification in creating a magnet
means the dielectric, while centripetal, exists predominately like a gyroscopic flywheel mass, along the periphery at which the center
Z-axis is the reciprocating magnetic field portal. In its fixed form of a permanent magnet, the compressing dielectric centripetal
counter (spatial) force is working in direct opposition to the magnetic, with the dielectric attempting to come together at the XY-axis
centerpoint, while at the same time, the magnetic is attempting to push the XY-axis apart at the centerpoint, resultantly like stepping
down flow from a larger diameter pipe into a smaller one, there is increased pressure, or in this case, increased magnetic pressure of
which we, incorrectly, deem an electrified dielectric object, as a “magnet” or “magnetic object”.

Ironically (not so) electrification in the creation of a permanent magnet creates significant spatial magnetic polarization, whereas an
identical relationship exists likewise in the spatial-counterspatial geometry as created in current lines that are polarized, and have
current moving in opposite directions. This is the harmonic conjugate relationship of magnetism and dielectricity, spatial and
counterspatial, both moving 180 degrees opposite one another, however in a binding electrical system, or a “magnetic” mass create an
unique centripetal-centrifugal, radial-circular, inertial-radiative, spatial-counterspatial set of relationships, so fully and accurately
spelled out by the gods of electrical theory, Maxwell, Heaviside, Faraday, Tesla, Steinmetz, and others.

Both diagrams show the same geometry, but in different electrical dimensions. Alternating electrical current being polarized,
produces the same magneto-dielectric geometry as electrification produces in the creation of an ‘electrified’ dielectric object
(“magnet”) with spatial magnetic polarization. Electrical current polarization produces a temporary building-radiative polarized (there
is no other kind) magnetic field, or in the other case, magnetic polarization formed in the electrification of a ferrous mass into a
dielectric object with a fixed radiative magnetic field. When electrified, the ferrous mass retains (due to the special inter-atomic
magneto-dielectric elasticity of the volume of iron) high dielectric capacitance, also proven in experimentation in releasing this
dielectricity (light reflector = dielectric conductor, iron in its special nature can be stably dielectrically saturated from electrification).


Magnetism is literally the polarization of dielectricity as contained or induced by an object (permanent magnet, TEM,
electromagnet), the two are conjugate and inversely proportional in their magneto-dielectric architecture, where one is circular,
dielectricity is radial, where one is centrifugal-centripetal, dielectricity is centripetal, where one is radiative, dielectricity is inertial,
where one is spatial (polarized), dielectricity is counterspatial. This conjugate pair creates and props up the entire universe, and powers
all atomic elements, is responsible for charge, discharge, induction, radiation, generation, polarization, mass creation which likewise
terminates into gravity. An incapacity to understand this fundamental is a roadblock to any true comprehension of magnetism or
dielectricity. Where magnetism seeks static circular polarization, electrification is a radial dynamic polarization.



TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #470 on: July 22, 2014, 11:15:13 AM »
TA,

Clearly the character of the vortex changed when the tape was applied.



AND I told you why, see PIC ABOVE, he taped off the sharp edge of the MAX velocity point of the centrifugal of which the hydrogen is spinning off from.


However thats no big deal.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #471 on: July 22, 2014, 11:26:39 AM »
TA
Maybe we all should hold off on insulting remark's-and i mean all of us. You must understand that the guy's here are here to help(well most anyway). Look at it like this-once all the probable causes are found not to be true,then what is left must be true. Im happy to do these test 1 by 1 ,as requested. And i will do them to the best of my ability. You will now see that 1 by 1, more questions are being raised. the next video ! im sure ! will bring more questions and confusion. We have PW, saying Quote: If this is correct, taping the sides of the neo should reduce the current flow perpendicular to the neo's magnetic axis, reducing or eliminating the torque/electrolyte spin and vortex. MH and Gravoc also agreed with this. This is what we need TA,things to try-this is how we get answer's.

So here is a video that bring's more question's .lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xmwnsCw2BI&list=UUsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w


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« Reply #472 on: July 22, 2014, 11:29:18 AM »
You will now see that 1 by 1, more questions are being raised. the next video ! im sure ! will bring more questions and confusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xmwnsCw2BI&list=UUsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w


Too true on that,  agreed.      And the rest.    I just bicker, IM not foaming at the mouth    Thats how grumpy assholes operate  ;D ;D


 ;)  ;)
LOVELY NEW VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   ;)  ;)  ;)



Awesome video showing the VERTICALLY polarized magnet!!!


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #473 on: July 22, 2014, 11:48:43 AM »
So here is a video that bring's more question's .lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xmwnsCw2BI&list=UUsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

A quote from the above video description, "Dose a magnetic vortex spin really exist? ,if not,then how is this motor running with the sides of the magnet electrically insulated from the water"?

A current flowing from the rim/edge to the axis of the conductive PM will experience a torque causing it to rotate.  The rotation is slower with the sides of the magnet taped, and there is also a reduction in the vortex with the sides of the magnet taped.  A non conductive ceramic magnet would not rotate at all, and this is the same for the EM without a conductive coating.  It wouldn't take long to wrap the EM in aluminium foil to see if the EM itself will want to rotate or not.

Gravock 

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« Reply #474 on: July 22, 2014, 11:51:57 AM »
A current flowing from the rim/edge of the PM to the axis of the conductive coating will torque the magnet causing it to rotate.  The rotation is slower with the sides of the magnet taped, and there is also a reduction in the vortex with the sides of the magnet taped.
Gravock


U missed the most important PART, he has the RIM EDGE TAPED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     ;D  ;D

see pic below


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #475 on: July 22, 2014, 11:57:24 AM »

U missed the most important PART, he has the RIM EDGE TAPED OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     ;D ;D

see pic below

Yes, and the more you tape of the face of the magnet, the further the reduction of the vortex will be and the slower the rotation of the PM itself will be.  In a HPG,  place one probe at the axis and one probe at the rim.  As you move the probe from the rim towards the axis there will be a reduction in the voltage as you approach the axis.  There will be no voltage when both probes are at the axis.  The greatest potential is between the axis and at the center point of the two poles.

Gravock

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« Reply #476 on: July 22, 2014, 12:01:32 PM »
Yes, and the more you tape of the face of the magnet, the further the reduction of the vortex will be and the slower the rotation of the PM itself will be.  In a HPG,  place one probe at the axis and one probe at the rim.  As you move the probe from the rim towards the axis there will be a reduction in the voltage as you approach the axis.  There will be no voltage when both probes are at the axis.

Gravock


HE DIDNT TAPE OF ANY PART OF THE CENTER POINT OF THE CENTRIPETAL/   CHARGE 'portal'.

WRONG SON,  charge enters centripetally  (DEAD CENTER OF BOTH 'POLES')................,   NOT CENTRIFUGALLY,     Ive said that 4 times already.


more disruption of the hydrogen bubbles? YES..........LESS ROTATION?????????    >>>>>>    NO  <<<<<


Son, the CHARGE is rotating the magnet!!!!!!!!!!    Not the hydrogen bubbles    ROFL !!!!!!!!!  Hahahhaahahahahahahhaha  !!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D


PATHETIC !!!!!!! OMG



And, his rotation is only a tad slower because:


A:  it has electrical tape on it with MORE DRAG than the slick nickel coating

B: he created greater MASS to rotate around the side of the magnet, ALL AROUND IT with several grams of electrical tape.


BOTH THOSE reasons are why its spinning a wee bit slower!!!


back to the books with you.


Thats why my 1000$  Bicycle wheels (the wheels ONLY) are SO LIGHTWEIGHT around the rim........LESS WEIGHT = MORE /EASIER TO SPIN

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« Reply #477 on: July 22, 2014, 12:07:00 PM »

HE DIDNT TAPE OF ANY PART OF THE CENTER POINT OF THE CENTRIPETAL/   CHARGE 'portal'.

WRONG SON,  charge enters centripetally  (DEAD CENTER OF BOTH 'POLES')................,   NOT CENTRIFUGALLY,     Ive said that 4 times already.


more disruption of the hydrogen bubbles? YES..........LESS ROTATION? ??? ??? ??    >>>>>>    NO  <<<<<


Son, the CHARGE is rotating the magnet!!!!!!!!!!    Not the hydrogen bubbles    ROFL !!!!!!!!!  Hahahhaahahahahahahhaha  !!!!!!!!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D


PATHETIC !!!!!!! OMG



And, his rotation is only a tad slower because it has electrical tape on it with MORE DRAG than the slick nickel coating


AND he created greater MASS to rotate around the side of the magnet, ALL AROUND IT with several grams of electrical tape.


BOTH THOSE reasons are why its spinning a wee bit slower!!!

Wrong, charge can enter either centripetally or centrifugally depending on the polarity of the current.  Centripetally will enter dead center at both poles.  Centrifugally will enter at the axis on the face of the magnet.  You will either have a negative voltage reading or a positive voltage reading depending on the polarity (centripetal or centrifugal) of the current.

Gravock

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« Reply #478 on: July 22, 2014, 12:09:11 PM »
Wrong, charge can enter either centripetally or centrifugally depending on the polarity of the current.  You will either have a negative voltage reading or a positive voltage reading depending on the polarity of the current.

Gravock


You demented fool,    NICE BS CLAIM   (I repeat CLAIM).    However its 100% dead WRONG.


ALL charge enters centripetally...........youre confusing  CW with CCW  (which pertains to BOTH centripetal AND centrifugal).




Centripetal is called CONVERGENT for a goddamn reason............ its the point of CHARGE.


Centrifugal is called DIVERGENT for a reason, is the point at which magnetism ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALLLLWAYS  leaves a magnet.


regardless of which side,

regardless of charge or not.     


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« Reply #479 on: July 22, 2014, 12:12:07 PM »

You demented fool,    NICE BS CLAIM   (I repeat CLAIM).    However its 100% dead WRONG.


ALL charge enters centripetally...........youre confusing  CW with CCW  (which pertains to BOTH centripetal AND centrifugal).

If this is the case, then reversing the polarity of the current wouldn't reverse the direction of rotation.  However, this isn't the case, because there will be a reversal in rotation with a reversal in the polarity of the current.  This isn't a claim.  What I am saying is observed in countless experiments.

Gravock