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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #390 on: July 21, 2014, 03:42:51 PM »
You catch who in what mistake?.



Well, TA of course...who wlse ?

He's is/was the only one (besides me) who hadn't made 1 or 3 in this thread.

*takes humble bow with toes pointed inward*

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #391 on: July 21, 2014, 07:26:07 PM »
Quote from Captain Zero:

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There are more than 2 paid  in operation on this thread

I am asking people reading this thread to denounce this type of behaviour.  It's unacceptable and smacks of the 1930s.  Shall people that argue the technical merits of a proposition wear a special symbol on our clothing?

Captain Zero knows zero about me in real life and he fails to look at propositions in an unbiased manner.  He often ignores the reprehensible forum behaviour of people putting forth dubious or outright ridiculous propositions if he (mistakenly) believes they have merit, even if they are jaw-droppingly ridiculous, and I am not being specific to this thread.  The reality is that sometimes propositions are put forth that someone with basic common sense and no technical skills and education would recognize as being false.

The fact that Captain Zero would even suspect that there are paid operatives here to rebut simplistic or ridiculous propositions that don't make any sense says much about Captain Zero and nothing about the person promoting the false proposition or the person rebutting the false proposition with logical arguments.

Again, I am asking people to publicly denounce this kind of behaviour.  It is simply unacceptable and he should not be allowed to get away with it.

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93RDELEMENT

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #392 on: July 21, 2014, 07:39:17 PM »
GRAVITYBLOCK YOU SIR ARE RIGHT ! NOW SPIN THE FOIL ! DIALETRIC INERTHIA WHAT A LOAD OF TRIPE ! ALL THE LOOK AT ME I AM SO GOOD AND THAN THE BLIND SPOT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA ..... IN MY BOOK NEITHER WILL SPIN IN A ZERO G ENVIRNMENT ...

You are all 50% RIGHT AND THE REST IS GOBBLDYGOUK NONSENSE ,,,,,, GO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT A BLIND MAN AND A PET MAGNET HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH  SO YOU THINK THE ANGLE OF SPINNING WATER GOING DOWN A HOLE IS DUE TO A DIALECTRIC HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA OK OOOOOOHHHHHH NOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

SILLY MONKEY HAHAHAHAHAH NICE BOOK HAHAHAHAH BUT IT ANINT WORTH A PEANUT !!!!! You wrote a book on the whim and some out of date data and you wont the world to believe it yet you can not prove it as it is wrong . You cant even make an indirect experiment to give the stupid theory and gravity hahahahahah OH THE GRAVITY OF IT HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH NO BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT GRAVITY IS DO YOU ITS SPACE TIME CURITURE NOT A DIALETRIC YOU BUMBLLING MONKEY GO BACK TO THE STUPID SCHOOL AND CRY OUT THE WORDS YUMMYBUMBEERLYIMADEASILLYHUBBALYTUMBERLY HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA NOW YOU WANT TO REINVENT GRAVITY AS A DIALETRIC FORCE Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah !!!

So its me the one who can crush every rock you throw until you find its gravity .. WARNING TO ALL HUMANITY DONT LISTEN TO A DIALETRIC GRAVITY THEORY ITS NUTS ...... AND SO FAR WRONG THAT THE WORD WRONG IS THE WRONG WORD FOR IT ..

Now you guys stop the little boy games all the insults the twisting of science contrived twitter twatter bull .........................................

Do you want the proof here and now and stand totally ashamed embraced with only an ideology that is outside the excepted rules of physics and what about the man himself old albert the one who worked it all out .. Oh no you just want to take him on in the hope your have a brain better than him . Did old albert ever write in the manner that I have been reading when submitting he's work ? Is there one sentence written by the grate man that is vindictive to anyone that said he was wrong ???? NO ... I am saddened by this childish pathetic scuba bling bing bong .... I came here to read and write science ! So far all I can ready is stupidity wrapped up in attempt to make your egos enflamed by your so called intelligence !

Now list to me ! I have a device that measure's space time curvature and the so called diametric of the earth they have the same vector because the dielectric constant follows gravity ... But the dielectric field will never go down a plug hole or ever spin a magnet without gravity .... Take away gravity and you lose the dielectric effect .. !!!!! YOU SILLY MONKEYS !!!!

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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #393 on: July 21, 2014, 08:13:32 PM »
I know nothing of this character in real life...just another desperate delusionary distortion put forward to try to salvage self destroyed credibility.

He/she/it/they have been outed by other members besides me for incessantly preventing the development of many ideas up for discussion, because it is well known that that is how other things are discovered.

This important dialogue process was proven out again yesterday in an experiment conducted by TinMan, in this thread, inspired by a very persistent Theo, who endured 9 yards of Sh!t flung in his path by the MH entity and his cohorts.

That never would have happened if he had given up in frustration, as so many before him had done.

Facts are facts.

Case proven and rested.


So much for his being "done" in this thread...his word is no good either.

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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #394 on: July 21, 2014, 08:44:33 PM »
Would be nice to have a better illustration of these centriptetal/centrifugal fields as applies to a ring magnet instead of a single solid bar magnet structure.




Modelling compounded magnets is:

A: a pain in the ass


B: its hard enough showing (not meaning you) weak minded ass-scratching monkeys how a NORMAL magnet works, ..........ergo no need (at this time) to complicate it for their squishy little brians

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #395 on: July 21, 2014, 08:50:34 PM »
This statement is correct as far as my test showed,which were done prior to the water test. Look at the picture below of a simple homopolar motor. We can place the conducting wire(the wire that touches the magnet) from the positive of the battery in/on the north end/south end,or center of the magnet,and it will spin in the same direction.Nothing speacial,i know-just saying. Of course i know that if we flip the magnet over,it will spin in the opposite direction,as it will if we swap the voltage polarity over.And if we do both at the same time,the spin direction wont change-all this i know Gravoc. Hope that clears that up.


Without going into great detail, your diagram (glad you posted it for others to see) shows on the simplex homopolar motor, the circuit  BETWEEN  the centripetal on a magnet AND the dielectric inertial plane (along the equator OF ANY AND ALL MAGNETS).

WHICH, in so doing, is "cutting" the flowing centrifugal magnetism (the 'sourced' [i explain this in detail in the book]) "genuine" magnetism)

 ;)




See pics below  RED is centripetal (CONvergent) returning magnetism)

green is the inertial plane of dielectricity

BLUE is the centrifugal magnetism

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #396 on: July 21, 2014, 09:00:15 PM »

You left out the part where you had to fight your way thru 9 yards of bullsh!t from naysayers, nitpickers, and shills, some of which are chronicled in my old but still relevant thread dedicated their activities...


Too true,     ALAS,  unfortunate for "THEM",  as someone madly skilled at ancient Greek dialectic and the Greek platonic method of "seeing thru skepticism, fallacies and subversive bullshit"    they haven't seen the likes of me before.

If they want to tangle, Id rather just stick to the topic, ....but if they want, I will, figuratively,.........dance on their little pin heads, and piss on their guts.




 

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #397 on: July 21, 2014, 09:07:13 PM »
The thing with doing it in water,is that the current is going in every direction.


yes and no,  DUE to the magneto-dielectric 'electrical geometry' of the NEO,  the current is directed ('attracted at the points of') at >>> both ends centripetally and along the inertial plane<<<,  ....

........AT WHICH TIME you are getting CENTRIFUGAL divergent acceleration (resultantly however, of course, ....out of the ENTIRE magnet), but said divergent motion (and resultant movement) is driving the CW and CCW motion of the ENTIRE magnet.


But as per the attractive point (on the magneto-dielectric geometry of the magnet) OF THE ENTIRE COLLECTIVE charge in the water........directed to same, regardless of where (as seen in your VID) you place the cathode or anode

 ;)   :)  :)

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« Reply #398 on: July 21, 2014, 09:08:58 PM »
At last some fresh air all that EGO and a daft empty attempt to re-write the law of truth the TERM DIALETRIC INERTSHIA IS NOW A DODO HAHAHA !!! But the term space time curvature is what give directional force to the effect and that is gravity !! Try this trick with the magnet in a zero g environment like space and it can not work no gravity no spin on the magnet . But this is not about a magnet its about a magnetic vortex and I must say that is interesting and the more I think about it the more interesting it gets .

One experiments I made a few years ago was a simple study with small 3 inch ferrite magnets 12 in a ring 5 stacked up at each point with a single magnet and a counter weight spinning ! The gap between each stack started at 5 inches after each try I positioned the stacks closer until on the 5th try they were all touching . There is and opposing forces between each stack so I had to tape them closer each try .. When I got to the 5th turn and the stacks were all touching something strange happened and I wrote it down as a field burst where a release of flux spread all over the room and the magnets lost the ability to attract the armature . I had to take each stack and isolate them for 4 hours for the field to return to normal .   

After that I started to work with opposing and iron that had a 2.2 degree curvature and to my surprise a field bubble was created over the iron which grew slowly. When stopped I taped strongly with a small hammer and the bubble burst but would not re-grow in the same spot on the ground where the experiment had taken place ..   I had to move the experiment 4 meters away before the bubble grew again !

I monitored the position of each experiment and noticed that a full cycle of the moon had to pass before a bubble could be set up in the same spot .. The term magnetic vortex may have some truth to it but not while the magnet is still in the same position so in simple terms you make the vortex and than you have to move away the apparatus leavening behind an invisible vortex ! This system is also a very good way to measure gravity and is obvious as in every position to ground you make the experiment the size and strength of the bubble is different ..

Sorry if my English gram her is not in the American style or if my writing is simply simple its just that my observations of the universe are relatively simple ! I never paint with words and only build with mathematics ! The follow on from this work was to build a device to confirm the dielectric constant and its relationship with gravity to that I mastered many things including particle physics . I now build zero point generators for private clients and continue to study the elusive graviton . The main problem with all things zero point or over unity is that the physics is not academic its science for anyone with an interest in such things and the out of date world of academics is falling behind very fast. Knowledge is fact over fiction nothing else its not a personal encounter or should it ever be and those that cloud it with there ability to blind themselves with deluded words and half measured effects should let go and build a house to see what it would look like if they don't use a door to enter it . The truth is inside that is where the home of truth lives not on the roof or in a flower basket hanging pretty on the out side so please keep the facts flowing into the house of truth and through the door of reality and knowledge.

Now that is enough of poetry ! which one of you will confirm with me a real magnetic vortex ????? or are you all just pretending to experiment ???


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #399 on: July 21, 2014, 09:17:41 PM »
What the hell, are you guys sleep-posting again. hahaha So much intensity and not one piece of toast was added on the table.
wattsup: """""But then I read "there is no Ether in space, only space within the Ether", just cannot figure that one out.""""""

Neither can most people.

What you are stating here is an oxymoron. So if ether is everywhere, how is it not in space. May as well say there is no juice in an orange, only orange in the juice. Helloooooooooooo. Anyone home. May as well try 1 + 2 does not = 3, but 3 = 2 + 1. What part of the brain is this type of logic supposed to reside?




Its only oxymoronic in your own mind, which is no fault of mine.      Great detail of this is made in the 3rd edition, just as I had planned to do.


Yes, there are NO "fields in space",  only space as a posterior attribute.


You, like MOST people, have reified the attribute as the medium (as Einstein and other did)

or rather reified the resultant as the causative.


There is ALSO a "big goddamn reason"  that the number  4 (Xaos / space) doesnt exist in the golden section     1 1 2 3 5 8 13........   (Oh hell, where is 4????)


Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenkos own formulas PROVE beyond ANY SHADOW of a doubt that space is unreal, AND posterior to fields.


Tesla said the SAME GODDAMN THING...........  Space 'as something'  that 'does things' or  'acts upon things'  is pure 100% REIFIED Horse plop.

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« Reply #400 on: July 21, 2014, 09:28:56 PM »
At last some fresh air all that EGO and a daft empty attempt to re-write the law of truth the TERM DIALETRIC INERTSHIA IS NOW A DODO HAHAHA !!! But the term space time curvature is what give directional force to the effect and that is gravity !!


You are confusing 2 WHOLLY diff terms dielectric and  dialectic  !!!!!  ROFL

There is NO "space time curvature"     these are FIELD pressure curvatures       ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   


You are, as most are, reifying the POSTERIOR ATTRIBUTE of fields,  that being space  AS the Principle.......its NOT.     Tesla and Heaviside  BOTH SAID THIS


See appendix A, vol 1 of Heaviside  "ELECTROMAGNETIC THEORY"   its at the END of Vol 1.


Dielectricity terminates INTO/AS mass creation in galactic and stellar formation JUST as electricity terminates into magnetism.    So, wrong again.








There is and opposing forces between each stack so I had to tape them closer each try .. When I got to the 5th turn and the stacks were all touching something strange happened and I wrote it down as a field burst where a release of flux spread all over the room and the magnets lost the ability to attract the armature . I had to take each stack and isolate them for 4 hours for the field to return to normal .   

Great, you discovered the dielectric inertial plane.   Hurray.   




I monitored the position of each experiment and noticed that a full cycle of the moon had to pass before a bubble could be set up in the same spot .


Yes, thats because dielectricity and gravity are linked in ways I WILL NOT EXPLAIN HERE

But they are linked in the same fashion as Electricity is to magnetism.     Congrats on finding that out   (so did I , a looong time ago)





Now that is enough of poetry ! which one of you will confirm with me a real magnetic vortex ????? or are you all just pretending to experiment ???.


I AM and HAVE BEEN experimenting my ass off. 

     



 
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« Reply #401 on: July 21, 2014, 09:35:13 PM »
DIALETRIC INERTIA WHAT A LOAD OF TRIPE
     



Tell that to Tesla, Steinmetz, Heaviside, JC Maxwell 
     ALL of which refer to >>>>>>>dielectric inertia  <<<<<<<


EVEN IN many modern electrical engineering texts, dielectricity is called  "ELECTRICAL INERTIA"



You're refuted, little boy.  ;D  ;D


Proving 100%   , you know JACK,  have READ JACK, and are full of it.

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« Reply #402 on: July 21, 2014, 09:39:36 PM »
Try this trick with the magnet in a zero g environment like space and it can not work no gravity no spin on the magnet


Let me correct your insane stupidity here   .    NO HUMAN EVER has been in a  "Zero G" environment.



You are confusing EXTREMELY VELOCITY in a  ZERO-DRAG low earth orbit (= PLENTY OF GRAVITY)  with     "Zero gravity"


The "former" space shuttle didn't "rocket back to earth" fool, .... it decelerates from nozzles which places it on a return trajectory to earth.


Im even pretty fucking sure there is gravity even AT THE POINT of Pluto...........     yeah, thats the case.


drats, foiled again!!!   ;D  ;D

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #403 on: July 21, 2014, 09:46:21 PM »


Modelling compounded magnets is:

A: a pain in the ass


B: its hard enough showing (not meaning you) weak minded ass-scratching monkeys how a NORMAL magnet works, ..........ergo no need (at this time) to complicate it for their squishy little brians

Wow TA, do you see anything in your response that would be construed by most as arrogance and condescension?

Personally, I find some of what you have to say intriguing (as I do most non-conventional theories), but I have yet to see or read anything that I would consider as "Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex".  To the contrary, most of the "proofs" you have presented can have alternate and quite conventional explanations.  The "proof" would be in ruling out these alternate more conventional explanations through additional experiments devised specifically for that purpose (null experiments).

All seasoned experimentalists learn that when an experiment provides a non-conventional result, or produces a result in apparent agreement with a non-conventional hypothesis, the real work has only just begun.  It is the multitude of experiments that follow, devised to disprove that positive result, that bring one much closer to the truth.  All too often we see individuals way too eager to accept the first positive experimental result as proof of something, without the required due diligence performed by those experimentalists to prove themselves wrong.

I am, however, intrigued by the results observed in Tinman's spinning/non-spinning bubbles experiment using a PM and EM.  So much so that I have already considered a dozen or so null experiments that may or may not provide further support for the proposed magnetic vortex theory.  If this were a more rational thread with cooler heads, discussing those experiments might actually be a pleasant and productive expenditure of time.

However, when individuals guard their belief systems with the fervor of religious fanaticism and cast aside more conventional technical and scientific responses with, or in concert with, condescension, arrogance, demeaning tones and accusations of being a shill, further discussion can only be an unpleasant and non-productive waste of time.

There really is no need for it.  A sound theory should be able to stand on its own without all the emotional tripe.   

As my schedule allows, I hope to perform additional experiments I have considered regarding Tinman's spinning bubbles.

PW
     

 

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« Reply #404 on: July 21, 2014, 10:36:19 PM »
Wow TA, do you see anything in your response that would be construed by most as arrogance and condescension?


If you dont like my personality, fine, dont really care.     This isnt a HOOKER trying to win a "pretty contest"    OK?

, but I have yet to see or read anything that I would consider as "Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex".  To the contrary, most of the "proofs" you have presented can have alternate and quite conventional explanations.  The "proof" would be in ruling out these alternate more conventional explanations through additional experiments devised specifically for that purpose (null experiments).


Good, Im glad you are blind, HOWEVER I have 9 diff. testing methods to write and make videos on.   Dont give a damn what you believe. 


All seasoned experimentalists learn that when an experiment provides a non-conventional result.


Nice classical Greek skepticism,  now go PISS OFF and experiment yourself son.      "non conventional" my goddamn ass.

I experiment, examine, use logic and retroduction...... Pedal your Greek Skepticism DOWN THE ROAD

Many people for long time have observed vortex divergent and convergent patterns.


As my schedule allows, I hope to perform additional experiments I have considered regarding Tinman's spinning bubbles.


GOOD, go experiment,  and stop flapping your lips.......Im in the middle of more experiments myself.