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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #285 on: July 20, 2014, 10:24:42 PM »
this MAY just proove that there is indeed a vortex spin at each end of a PM.


Well, Ive established that a dozen diff. ways already, but your videos and NEW WAYS you may find are excellent !!!    :D ;)  ;)

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #286 on: July 20, 2014, 10:29:24 PM »
Tinman:

That's an interesting experiment, I can't explain it right now. 


WORTH- LESS 

I can, you cant.     Thats because you're in the "cult of the beasts"   i.e.   QUANTUM BS and GR and that mental midget Einstein.



EIN-STEIN  means "ONE STONE"   which is German for  IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #287 on: July 20, 2014, 10:31:42 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmm. Lots of pages flew by while I was in snooze mode.

wattsup



You are well meaning but your explanation for WHY electromagnets DONT MAKE A VORTEX is all wrong.


NO SPIN with EM vs. PM because:


A: electromagnet is "driving" the magnetism via electricity, >>>>NOT dielectricity<<<<, as is the case in a PM, of which the dielectricity is 'driving' the vortex from the inter-atomic made coherent into the incommensurable geometry of the PM

B: Electromagnet is spatially divergent IN/AS a coil, and does NOT (almost the exact opposite) have the properties of dielectricity as found in a PM which is "driving" a genuine PM !!


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #288 on: July 20, 2014, 10:34:31 PM »
This i already know.And  If i am the only one to have immersed it in water,then it has not been done.

You are the only one I have seen who has immersed that particular design into water.  That particular design is very popular on youtube, and immersing it into the water doesn't change the results of the experiment!  Your set-up immersed in the water is based on the same principals of the original Faraday motor, which was also done in a conductive liquid.

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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #289 on: July 20, 2014, 10:35:36 PM »
How is the rising bubbles forming a swirling pattern any different to the rising smoke and flames from a fire causing a swirling pattern ?



GET THE POO out from between your ears,  NO OFFENSE.


But doing the same with a steel slug DOES NOT PRODUCE A VORTEX


Get that simplex fact??   



Tinmans videos are excellent, but there are MANY MANY different ways to get a vortex from a magnet that have NOTHING do with zapping a magnet.


I AM and WILL KEEP making those videos on the DIFFERENT WAYS

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #290 on: July 20, 2014, 10:37:20 PM »
You are the only one I have seen who has immersed that particular design into water.  That particular design is very popular on youtube, and immersing it into the water doesn't change the results of the experiment!  Your set-up immersed in the water is based on the same principals of the original Faraday motor, which was also done in a conductive liquid.

Gravock



No, a guy named "magnetflipper" did it YEARS AGO............he has several such vids.    But NOT AS GOOD AS TINMANS

Ive done the same 9 months ago.


 "magnetflipper"  video:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAl1LVPbYhY


TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #291 on: July 20, 2014, 10:38:41 PM »
Quote from: MileHigh on Today at 05:45:34 PM

    Captain Zero:

    How is your AIDS coming along?  Are you still getting the dizzy spells?  Has it started to affect your vision?  Your weight was way down last year but has the new drug cocktail made a difference?

    I know that you have been coping with it for years and I suppose that you are fortunate because you still have your mobility.

    I know it's tough but hang in there, they may have a cure one day.

    MileHigh



    Good grief...how looney that ?

    WOW
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AGREE,  He is insane of some variety of MENTAL DEFECT

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #292 on: July 20, 2014, 10:42:26 PM »
    milehigh you are the disruptor here.  no one wants your exploration stifling bs here.  you only try to stifle discovery and exploration under the guise of saving someone from wasting money which is more bs. 



100% Accurate,    and as far as SAVING MONEY,   I can assure you that that whatever "milehigh" has,  Ive got plenty more.   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D


He throws himself upon the "roads of discovery" to keep weaker minds from DISCOVERING anything.

Hes a member of the CULT OF QUANTUM.


Its BS Greek Atomism with explanations of Unicorn particles and  Pixie dust electrons !!!!   ROFL

gravityblock

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #293 on: July 20, 2014, 10:44:01 PM »


No, a guy named "magnetflipper" did it YEARS AGO............he has several such vids.    But NOT AS GOOD AS TINMANS

Ive done the same 9 months ago.


 "magnetflipper"  video:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAl1LVPbYhY

I am very familiar with the magnetflipper video from long ago.  Are you saying magnetflipper immersed the same design as TinMan into the water and had the magnet rotating?  I don't think so.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #294 on: July 20, 2014, 10:47:16 PM »
I am very familiar with the magnetflipper video from long ago.  Are you saying magnetflipper immersed the same design as TinMan into the water and had the magnet rotating?  I don't think so.

Gravock


Yes, he did,  He has a total of I recall 4 or 5 videos with slightly diff. setups.


Doesnt matter,   Tinmans videos are excellent  ;)  ;)  ;D,  and I gave him HUGE BIG GIANT THUMBS UP comments on HIM and HIS VIDEOS

His videos are PRIMO , excellent, and I was certainly NOT downplaying them AT ALL.


  >>>>>Tinmans LATEST TWO VIDEOS  are WHOLLY NEW  YES!!!!! <<<<<<<<<   I was speaking about his first 2 magnet zapping videos from yesterday



He needs to keep churning out NEW GREAT VIDEOS!!!!  Hes Excellent, and I give him A++++++   in every arena.


He is, as they say here    "THE CATS ASS" !!   (thats good , in case it doesnt translate into OZ!)


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #295 on: July 20, 2014, 10:52:52 PM »
It is very common for people to use a conductive fluid instead of a sliding contact or brushes in a homopolar motor/generator.  You guys are doing nothing but re-discovering and re-inventing the wheel, lol!

Gravock

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #296 on: July 20, 2014, 11:03:13 PM »
Stop the presses!  Special message for SteelTPU!!!  lol

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #297 on: July 21, 2014, 12:18:57 AM »
MAGNETIC VORTEX IS A PARTICLE MASS ORBITING THE MAGNET NOT THE MOVEMENT OF THE FLUX FROM THE MAGNET !

ME

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #298 on: July 21, 2014, 12:33:50 AM »
This i already know.And  If i am the only one to have immersed it in water,then it has not been done.



>>>>>>>>>FOR TINMAN<<<<<<<<<<<<

SEND ME A PRIVATE MESSAGE   ;)


If you let me use a picture or 2 of your experiments I will


A: put them in the upcoming 3d edition

B: GIVE YOU A BIG OLE' CREDIT, AND PUT YOUR PICTURE (if you want) ON THE CREDITS PAGE OF THE 3RD EDITION (much much bigger book with new discoveries and data etc etc.) WITH A LINK TO YOUR SITE / INFO ETC ETC.

C: I will let you WRITE YOUR OWN SECTION OF THE BOOK (on your experiments, observations, etc etc)   GIVING YOU FULL CREDITS FOR THAT SECTION  <<<<


But, thats up to you !!!!!!


Considering THE 2ND EDITION of my book got 260,000 DOWNLOADS TOTAL IN UNDER 12 DAYS........THATS BIG EXPOSURE FOR YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!



Let me know !!


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #299 on: July 21, 2014, 12:47:43 AM »
This is nothing new and is nothing that is unexpected.  This is a traditional homopolar motor.  I have studied and experimented with homopolar motors more than anyone else on this forum, except for maybe broli.  You can find many youtube videos of exactly what you have done, except you have immersed your set-up in water.  If you use a ceramic non-conductive magnet, instead of a nickel coated conductive neo magnet, then you would get no rotation.  Prove me wrong on this, and I won't make another post on this forum.  Just make sure the screw that is attached to the magnet isn't running from the rim to the axis.  In other words, let the conductive screw only touch a small point at the center of the non-conductive magnet.

Gravock
re homopolar motors

Not that there's a lot to study....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htOTZNY5eFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R480UW9aSuM


If the magnets are inside, and I use steel balls balls to run them on instead they didn't stick to the tower, but did run along 2 aluminum strips on a board; but couldn't move themselves up more than like a 5 degree incline.. if that much
Could easily be done with ceramic magnets in the same place (the bar through them makes contact with outer steel balls); other than ceramic (non conductive) magnets have a much weaker field, they likely cannot move their own weight.  With only 1 3/8"x1/8" magnet it didn't work well, but using a stack of 3  to make them 3/8"x3/8" made them work better,


Or another version here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z9v7j6Q6jc using the field from the ceramic magnet, but not a current flow through it.
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back to tinman's version though... it is odd that enough current goes through the screw to make it work since as much of the steel rod's surface is in the water as is given by the magnet itself...
hmm... probably the bubble formation pushing off the magnet to make it spin in this case, since the vortex disappears