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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #165 on: July 19, 2014, 10:44:08 PM »
Ok ,well here is some test i carried out today,using an effect we have seen befor,but tried in many different configurations. So who can explain clearly how and why we get a spin-and please take note of where i place the copper plate(anode),and where the wires are running.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV8DqMBzkIc&feature=youtu.be


Lovely video!!!!


Lovely video!!  You are officially awesome

However, as is the case, there are 5 diff. methods (more really) to see (my videos) this vortex WITHOUT having to zap your magnet

nevertheless your method (as originally duplicated by 'magnetflipper' you youtube) produces vortex from hydrogen bubbles.

There are 2 METHODS I have found (that have nothing to do with zapping a magnet) to SHOW magnetic vortex movement.   

1. Use FAST moving HIGH volume medium like the force lines in a CRT tube, or neon tube, or your H2 bubbles

OR

2. (my best demos) use LOW volume viscous SLOW MOVING materials in a suspension (see my videos on this).    ;)  ;D 


You're awesome


The reason for the "CW  / CCW" is the necessitated field conjugation and magnetic reciprocation.

ultimately its all 'twisted' straight lines.


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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #166 on: July 19, 2014, 11:08:24 PM »

Example 1:

The video of your magnet lifting up those nails in the shaper box is a problem where you are giving such a long explanation of extremely complicated field relationships. But in reality the effect is so simple. When you approach the magnet slowly the closest nails under the magnet are held up because the closest nails have the time required to concentrate the magnetism more then the nails beside them. When you approach the magnet quickly, the magnetization time is spread out to all the nails in the region of influence.

You said it yourself. "Nature does not do math", so how then can functional explanations of nature be any more complicated then a one sentence description. Two at most. This is one of my own measuring sticks of logic. 1 - 2 sentences, not more. If you can boil down all your theories (I am saying theory because at this stage we are all walking theories) and bring them down to layman terms where the reader can see develop a true character of the ether, then for me it is doing justice and I can only hope for you that such a skill will eventually mature. Teaching is an art that is not inbred, so maybe use your time here to practice this art and learn from it yourself.

Imagine I am still at page 21. I have had to read and re-read those pages and am still in ambiguity to the actual main premises. I am afraid to read on because this will just mix things up even more and I will have to start over again. But I will continue on.

Also, knowing my own character, once I finally finish reading your book I will want to cut it into pieces because there will be loose ends, and, I hate loose ends.



But to say this effect is the result of multi fields moving both ways, one lifting up, the other pushing down onto a geometrically uniform pattern is something that just does not click. If the magnet is both pushing up and pulling down in a geometrical pattern and that is the only cause of the cones, then you will have to explain why, with the addition or removal of a volume of ferrofluid, does the pattern itself change. If the cause of the cone pattern is the magnet field pattern, then why does the cone pattern change? If your premise is correct, then the pattern should stay exactly the same and the only change should be higher or lower cones. But it does not. Do you see the logic of this questioning?

My main stance is ether is everywhere. In space, in atoms, in magnetism, in action at a distance, in everything man. So where is this "no ether in space" thing coming from? Why should ether have a preference? Ether if everywhere does not have to move anywhere because it is already in everything. We move through ether and not ether moves through us, just like as our planet, solar system and galaxy all have an additive effect on mass moving through ether, so do all other galaxies in their own right and at their own minimal mass threshold speeds of movement. The law of action/reaction will logically want that the same mass moving at a different speed will create a different effect on the base frequency of atomic nature and this will produce different effects as we see them in the universe. We look at the stars, the galaxies and see so many effects that we try to figure out, but the first question to ask is, what speed is that galaxy moving through space compared to ours? That's what I would like to know.





I have no such video using "nails"  elaborate.

Yes, of course it can be boiled down much more so. And I have future videos for that.  The book which is expanding is another matter.



"""But to say this effect is the result of multi fields moving both ways, one lifting up, the other pushing down onto a geometrically uniform pattern is something that just does not click."""

That it doesnt "click" is no ERR on my behalf. Simplex lowest-pressure cross-mediation is extremely simplex.


I love being refuted actually, and I stated my purpose here many times, I have no interest in convincing anyone of anything.  They can wipe their arse with the book for all it matters.


IF HOWEVER someone (has happened a few times in this thread) has something very logical and coherent to say FOR or AGAINST any point, thats always of great USE, and great BENEFIT (to myself at any rate).


A friendly DEBATE isnt an argument.     I respect all parties here, but this is NOT A personality contest, its an exchange of information and ideas.    Sometimes rough, sometimes Smooth.

However I dont care one way or the other about anyone's  "personality",   if you care about mine, well, that lay at your own feet.



"""" If the cause of the cone pattern is the magnet field pattern, then why does the cone pattern change?""""

I explain same in a future video and the 3rd edition of the book,    I state outright IN the book that "much WILL and NEEDS to be expanded upon".



"""""But then I read "there is no Ether in space, only space within the Ether", just cannot figure that one out.""""""


Neither can most people.

Polarity = Spatial = CW/CCW  ...........these are the mental skr3w of human (MIS)understanding


Ultimately there is NO "polarity" in a "magnet" only field reciprocation and MOVEMENT along lowest pressure gradients, of which FIELDS in their instantaneous attributional creation, generates the ATTRIBUTE OF SPACE , that being polarization.

Chains of causation:
1. Field(s)
2. space
3. polarization

However, logically one can say that 2 and 3 are co-eternal

Space is an attribute of a FIELD,  there are no "fields in space", only SPACE as an attribute, and posterior (in creation) from FIELDS.

This is why Einstein was a mental midget, he REIFIED the attribute of FIELDS , that being SPACE as "something" that "does things" and "acts on things"



""""My main stance is ether is everywhere. In space, in atoms, in magnetism, in action at a distance, in everything man. So where is this "no ether in space" """"


Then you SHOULD HAVE ALREADY deduced from this fact that you are swimming IN fields upon fields WITHIN fields and other fields upon fields upon fields.

The Aether/Ether is  NO-where (in space),     Where, or GREEK TOPOS or "Khora" the "where" is as pertains TO space, AS posterior to any and all fields.


"look at the wide open spaces!!"  (said the goof standing IN A FIELD (Khora) ...)

Youre talking about the baby before the mother (fields).  ;D   There is no space without a field,   Space is POSTERIOR to any and all fields,   either in simplex, OR compounded.

There is no "Ether in space",   Space is POSTERIOR to ANY and ALL fields.    Dr. Oleg D. Jefimenko proves this (however he doesnt grasp the implicactions) in his books.



There is no "instant action at a distance"   (THERE IS), but the premise is 100% flawed.

I did not mean by the title that there IS NO "instantaneous action at a distance (within fields)" Of course there is, within fields 'instant action at a distance' without propagation speeds

(as proved by Tesla and E Dollard.  Dr. O. Jefimenko and others regarding longitudinal field propagation).

But that the entire PREMISE is 100% flawed, regarding the statement of: "instantaneous action at a distance"

Field pressure gradients are not IN space nor therefore a modality of time.

So what is going on "instantly" is merely field inductions, pressures occurring "under" and preceding space which is merely a modality of any field.

So, taking the common phrase regarding fields (mag, grav, dielectric): " "instantaneous action at a distance"

we have removed the "INSTANTANEOUS" part as merely a human perceptual flaw of immanent fields within which there is space (but never a field IN space, rather space as attributional to or of a field).

"ACTION" can be removed, since we are only talking about field pressure gradients, inductions, charges and discharges. There are no "moment actions", since actions are comparators over 2 points in time. However the case is is that what something is in Principle it is in Attribute, likewise therefore deductively we can speak of X as both a THING/PRINCIPLE, and an ACTION/ATTRIBUTE, ........such as light-illumination, or will-willing. The very co-eternal principles, also, of and to any field.

"DISTANCE" can likewise therefore be eliminated, since we are talking about the attribute and EFFECT WITHIN any field(s). There are no "distances" , since this is a conceptual abstraction of fields which are impinging/interacting within / to/ against etc. each other.


ANY retardations of field action-propagation are logically only merely resistances encountered from intervening field-modality inductions/capacitance; or field voidance or counter-voidance pressures


So, having eliminated all 3 main words within "instantaneous action at a distance", whats left? Only fields logically. .... Well, we are left with "AT"

Field pressure AT another field
Electricity terminating AT X as magnetism
Magnetic moving its attribute (space) AT a dielectric ( which = dielectric inertial plane torque = electrification)
Your body AT a location in space AT which another body's centripetal convergent gravitational field is acting AT yours.



All fields are definitionally Ether modalities, either convergent/divergent, spatial, counterspatial, circular, radial, inertial, centripetal, centrifugal.

As for any "polarized (=SPATIAL)" field, it isn't IN space, rather contains space, and therefore is definitionally "polarized", .......when all this time we have considered "polarized = IN space", rather than "space = attributional construct of a polarized field".

And as we know, there is no "N or S pole", NO clockwise or counterclockwise spins.

the same rope turning CW on one end is turning (apparently so) CCW on the other end, but we also of course, know that the entire rope (or ball, etc) is spinning in one single direction as pertains itself, but "has space" (inverse spin) as attributional to it being "polarized" and therefore "creating a space" as definitional to its polarization, i.e. Ether modality.

We are then merely left with an ocean of fields overlapping fields in which there are atomic magneto-dielectric and gravitational fields which prop up the volumes of atoms and their covalent joining.


Weight is not only location specific, but also MEDIUM (Ether, water etc etc) specific. Obviously an obese person doesn't 'weight much' floating in the water and even a 10 year old can "carry" a 400 pound person in that medium. 


There needs to be a whole NEW SCIENCE for the future regarding Field Incommensurabilty or F.I. (as I coined it, pardon if that is hubristic).

Tesla talked about this EXACTLY AND SPECIFICALLY, and why he verbally slapped the hell out of Einstein in his writings.




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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #167 on: July 19, 2014, 11:13:24 PM »
SeaMonkey:

You lose perspective so easily it's not funny.  It's like you are
hard-wired to believe that "the alternative guy must be right"
even when you have to deal with an internal dichotomy.  You
have enough technical knowledge to know that the vast
majority of what Theoria is stating is quite frankly "crazy
whackadoo nonsense."  You know that he is wrong but your
hard-wiring takes over and you will defend the underdog,
because defending the underdog is more important than
what's right and what's wrong.  So you have an internal
conflict and what always wins is the "alternative guy."  And
that is your great flaw, you support things that you know
are wrong because you are against "the system."

Indeed, you can't even think straight sometimes because
of that hard wiring.  I am not "attacking" Theoria, I am
challenging his propositions because they are a form of
"knowledge pollution" and people deserve to hear both
sides in a debate.

You must be talking about Theoria?  Whoops, I guess you
are alleging that I am the one breaking the rules.  When
did I ever say or imply I had a privileged status?  Your
hard-wiring distorts your perception.  When you post things
like that you sound like the worst of the worst of the
"Powers-that-Be spin doctors."  It's like reading Pravda in
1972.

You can kiss my ass when you use the term "Forum Man"
trying to imply that I am some sort of "paid operative"
that's here to rebut nonsensical stuff like you are reading
in this thread.

Ultimately, you are messed up in the head.  Like you
walked head-first into the barrel of a 16-inch gun in
1963 and you never recovered from the very serious
concussion you received.

Stop trying to imply that I am something that I am not.
Stop trying to imply that I am devious and intentionally
attacking Theoria.  Let your innate knowledge and
understanding about electronics overcome that messed
up hard wiring in your head.  It's the same hard wiring that
turns you into that "apocalypse is coming, the great battle
between good and evil is almost upon us" guy standing on
a virtual street corner holding up a 10-year-old placard
that says, "The End is Nigh."

What ridiculous and dark and dreary spinning you can do
when your hard wiring takes over.  You look at a thread like
this and you go into overdrive and you suppress your own
innate technical intelligence that is telling you that I am
just arguing the common sense straight goods and Theoria
is just one of hundreds of guys that has miraculously
"discovered" the "secret" of magnetism.  You know just as
well as me that he can't back anything up but like some
self-programmed drone you support him anyways.

There is something really creepy in you that gives me the
shivers.  You are your own Cabal unto yourself and nobody
should drink your Kool-Aid.  Rather, they should run away
as fast as they can.

MileHigh


I always enjoy reading your responses Miles.  They're almost
like a Book of Revelation - you put that "inner man" out there
for all to see.

I'm glad that you've gotten the "shivers."  It's a start...

By the way - the End is Near.  Wait patiently and you too shall
see it.



TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #168 on: July 19, 2014, 11:24:12 PM »
@tinman

The simple fact that you are producing bubbles in water is enough to produce the spin.



100% Dead wrong,   ;D  ;D 
NOR does your premise explain 100% reproducible  CW spin or CCW spin depending on WHICH side is used.


NOR does this have ANYTHING to do with 8 other methods I USE that have nothing to do with HIS VIDEO that shows the SAME THING when hes zapping the magnet with his copper plate and 30V charge.


such as powdered bismuth
charged graphite in suspension.
or CRT tubes
or pyro. graphite spin  (see videos)


etc etc etc......



but again, none of that can be directly attributable to the magnetic field.

Nice CLAIM, however wrong.


Anyways, the main question then arises as per the effects explained by @TA, and that is, in one instance the magnet is producing a vortex but in another instance the magnet is producing cones with ferrofluid. So which one is it, vortex or cones.


My dear heavens!!!!!     "VORTEX OR CONES"  (sorry for this insult)  is about the most insane thing I have heard in a long time.

I could've swore somewhere that a Vortex has the geometry of a CONE, and that a CONE is the geometry of a VORTEX 

OMG  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D




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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #169 on: July 19, 2014, 11:32:46 PM »
Wattsup:

Taken from Theoria's PDF:

I highlighted the first sentence for the ferrofluid explanation, it is wrong.

You know the old saying, usually the simplest explanation is the correct explanation.

MileHigh



Sorry, but this slot machine doesn't accept wooden nickels or baseless claims


You ARE RIGHT about "simplest",    simplex lowest pressure seeking mutual reciprocation.


divinely simple in the extreme.  ;D  ;D

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #170 on: July 19, 2014, 11:38:10 PM »
SeaMonkey:
and people deserve to hear both sides in a debate.
MileHigh



You have yet to say ANYTHING,   earlier your admit to being a keyboard jockey.

You dont experiment,

you dont invent,

You dont CREATE anything,

You dont sit down with a voltmeter and wind coils, and do experiments, and look into new research or ideas,

You dont use the Platonic methodology of EITHER induction or the most important one, retroduction.



you merely state over and over  "thats wrong,  thats wrong"      That, son, is a fallacy.



1 page ago you said you were an "expert on the bedini motor"  and that you "NEVER BUILT ONE"     


How proud that must make you    ;D  ;D  ;D     I mean lazy and shiftless.

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« Reply #171 on: July 19, 2014, 11:49:46 PM »

True, the centrifugal magnetism is being 'driven' by the dielectrical inertial plane at the midpoint of every magnet.

Yes, this centrifugal is a "FAKE" inertial force.

magnetism is definitionally radiation of and within the magneto-dielectric inter-atomic, a  "magnet" only makes this fundamental Aether force VERY APPARENT to us dumb human critters.

The centrifugal force is described by classical mechanics as being a fictitious or fake inertial force as you agree.  The Coriolis force is also described by classical mechanics as being a fictitious force.  The Euler force is once again described by classical mechanics as being a fictitious force.  Together, these three fictitious forces are necessary for the formulation of correct equations of motion in a rotating reference frame.  Without these three fictitious forces, classical mechanics can't properly describe motion in a rotating reference frame (see snapshot below).  Physics also speaks of virtual photons, etc.  Below is a snapshot at wiki on the "Fictitious Forces".  Both classical mechanics and quantum mechanics can't properly describe this universe as being real, however it can easily describe this universe as being a holographic computer simulation (a non-local universe).  There is only one thing in this universe that is real, and that is Spirit/Consciousness!  Everything else is an illusion!  The Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics is based on what appears to be the same nutbar logic as classical mechanics (fictitious or virtual forces, virtual particles, etc).  Once we realize science has nothing to bring forth that is real, then we can move onto the next level of technological advances.

Pilot-wave theory makes all the same predictions as the probabilistic formulation of quantum mechanics (which wouldn’t be referred to as the “Copenhagen” interpretation until the 1950s), but without the ghostliness or mysterious collapse.  It is the Copenhagen probabilistic interpretation of QM I do not agree with.  The old, deterministic alternative of QM is not mentioned in most textbooks and most people in the field haven’t heard of it.  Sheldon Goldstein, a professor of mathematics, physics, and philosophy at Rutgers University and a supporter of pilot-wave theory, blames the “preposterous” neglect of the theory on “decades of indoctrination.”  At this stage, Goldstein and several other noted researchers risk their careers by questioning quantum orthodoxy.  The physicist David Bohm resurrected pilot-wave theory in a modified form in 1952, with Einstein’s encouragement, and made clear that it did work, but it never caught on.  The theory is also known as de Broglie-Bohm theory, or Bohmian mechanics.  Please remember, according to David Bohm, the one who resurrected pilot-wave theory in a modified form in 1952, also says the entire universe is a hologram.

By 1932, when the Hungarian-American mathematician John von Neumann claimed to have proven that the probabilistic wave equation in quantum mechanics could have no “hidden variables” (that is, missing components, such as de Broglie’s particle with its well-defined trajectory), pilot-wave theory was so poorly regarded that most physicists believed von Neumann’s proof without even reading a translation.  More than 30 years would pass before von Neumann’s proof was shown to be false, but by then the damage was done.  Later, the Northern Irish physicist John Stewart Bell went on to prove a seminal theorem that many physicists today misinterpret as rendering hidden variables impossible.  But Bell supported pilot-wave theory. He was the one who pointed out the flaws in von Neumann’s original proof.  And in 1986 he wrote that pilot-wave theory “seems to me so natural and simple, to resolve the wave-particle dilemma in such a clear and ordinary way, that it is a great mystery to me that it was so generally ignored.”  The neglect continues to this day.....

Now at last, pilot-wave theory may be experiencing a minor comeback — at least, among fluid dynamicists. “I wish that the people who were developing quantum mechanics at the beginning of last century had access to these experiments,” Milewski said. “Because then the whole history of quantum mechanics might be different.” The experiments began a decade ago, when Yves Couder and colleagues at Paris Diderot University discovered that vibrating a silicon oil bath up and down at a particular frequency can induce a droplet to bounce along the surface. The droplet’s path, they found, was guided by the slanted contours of the liquid’s surface generated from the droplet’s own bounces — a mutual particle-wave interaction analogous to de Broglie’s pilot-wave concept.

The photon carries momentum. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle states that it is not possible to measure location and momentum at the same time. If the momentum is distributed throughout the entire volume, if one measures the entire momentum, the whole volume must be considered. Since the volume spreads all over creation, it is impossible to say that it is located at a point.  It seems that the meaning of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle can be reinterpreted to support the present conclusion of the nature of the photon. If it has aperture and length, the momentum is not located at a single point. If a single point is assumed for the structure, no momentum can be measured. It seems that the significance of the uncertainty principle has been highly overrated.  The Heisenberg uncertainty principle simply says that the photon has volume.  Calculation shows that the energy and thus the mass is distributed uniformly throughout the structure. The same fact applies to the distribution of momentum.  Quantum indeterminacy and a probabilistic universe based on the wrong assumptions of the Copenhagen interpretation has been proven false!

"The old has been made new again"

Reference:  Fluid Experiments Support Deterministic “Pilot-Wave” Quantum Theory (Snapshots shown below)

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #172 on: July 20, 2014, 12:01:33 AM »


these three fictitious forces, classical mechanics can't properly describe motion in a rotating reference frame (see snapshot below).  Physics also speaks of virtual photons, etc.  Below is a snapshot at wiki on the "Fictitious Forces".  Both classical mechanics and quantum mechanics can't properly describe this universe as being real, however it can easily describe this universe as being a holographic computer simulation (a non-local universe).  There is only one thing in this universe that is real, and that is Spirit/Consciousness!


yes, yes, all true.   However you should never read anything from the Cult of Quantum, is a mind virus and mental disease.

These sick SOB's are nothing more than rehashed Greek Atomists


Tesla attacked them endless as being mental defectives, which they ARE,  They're literally intellectual SLIME and BLACK MOLD.


“Where common sense and intuition failed, we (the insane relativists) had to create a new form of intuition based upon abstract
(unreal) mathematics. When common sense fails, we must create uncommon sense.” -Leonard Susskind, professor theoretical
physics, and priest of the cult of Quantum


Quantum insanity: “Everything we call real is made up of things that cannot be real.” – N. Bohr

Quantum insanity: “The more you see how strange nature behaves, the harder it is for us to make a model that explains even the how
the most simple phenomena works. Theoretical physics has given up on this pursuit.” – R. Feynman

They create a new Unicorn particle every time they need their  BS formulas to balance out !!!!!

Muons, gluons, mesons, bosons. etc etc   pixie dust and BS


de Broglie was a mental midget, he made a 1000 claims, with no logic for most of them.


You said----
""""The photon carries momentum"""""

There is no such thing as a photon,  this is a BS misunderstanding of the nature of TEM   (see last section of my book).

However IT (not a photon however) caries momentum, because, (of course) its the radial dielectric component of TEM



You said---
""""the momentum is not located at a single point."""""

Thats right, because the DIELECTRIC RADIAL COMPONENT is pulsed directly in line with the wavelength of the TEM

which is why SHORT wavelength EM is so dangerous and powerful.




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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #173 on: July 20, 2014, 12:32:18 AM »

yes, yes, all true.   However you should never read anything from the Cult of Quantum, is a mind virus and mental disease.

Quantum insanity: “Everything we call real is made up of things that cannot be real.” – N. Bohr

You said----
""""The photon carries momentum"""""

There is no such thing as a photon, 
this is a BS misunderstanding of the nature of TEM   (see last section of my book).

However IT (not a photon however) caries momentum
, because, (of course) its the radial dielectric component of TEM

Call a photon whatever you like, but it doesn't change what it is!  Listen to what you are saying!  You don't believe in photons, electrons, etc., yet you can call them by a different name, then they all of a sudden become real to you!  This falls under the same nutbar logic of quantum insanity: "everything we call real is made up of things that cannot be real"!

Time should play the part instead of meters or distance. We should look upon Time as the result of the force that impels a body through space. The greater the force, the shorter the time, and the shorter also the space to be traversed. Thus, if the force were infinitely great, time and space would be infinitely small, they would cease to exist. If the force was infinitely small, time and space would be infinitely great. But, again the force is not everything, because in reality it does not exist. All that exists is the impulse that is applied to the body in space and imparts momentum to it. The body's movement is then only limited by the resistance it has to overcome. What does exist then is the momentum that arises from the impulse of the force, and not the force itself.

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #174 on: July 20, 2014, 12:38:23 AM »
Using a lens with a micron thin layer of sandwiched ferro fluid to map external magnetic fields via optic affects of the field on the magnetic fluid. Red, yellow and green radial LED's are spaced evenly; facing inward into the edge of the lens. The light from the LED's warps around the magnets as it passes through the fluid. This is the basic version video with one magnet from youtube user, SirZerp.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD6C6f2nu0U

Check out SirZerp's Channel for more videos on viewing the magnetic fields in real time, they are much better than the "basic version video", and here his more information about this technique, http://www.scribd.com/doc/28943933/Photographing-Magnetic-Lines-of-Constant-Scalar-Potential

The Dynamic Etalon is another method, and was conceived and developed as an economical tool for magnetic research.  Basically, this unique lens is a Fabry-Perot Interferometer combined with a modified Hele-Shaw cell. The nano particle mixture within the lens respond dynamically in the presence of a magnetic field.

A real-time holographic representation of magnetic flux is clearly visible to the observer or image recorder, unlike a typical computer generated pattern plotted by software. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxCYvDjFRM

Here is more information on the Dynamic Etalon method, http://www.nanomagnetics.us/dynamic%20etalon.htm

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« Reply #175 on: July 20, 2014, 12:41:46 AM »
SeaMonkey, Captain Zero:

When you try to imply that I am a "paid operative" or whatever, I consider that reckless endangerment and you potentially put my life in danger.  If my name ever slipped out, then it would take five minutes to know where I live and where I work and what I look like.

The percentage of mentally unstable people on the free energy forums is certainly much higher than that of the general population.  I don't want a nutcase to drive an icepick through my skull while I am walking down the street.  Do you get that?  Stop trying to imply that I am something that I am not because you recklessly put my life in danger when you do that.  I don't give a sh*t if the chances are small, it doesn't make any difference.  You guys disagree?  Then both of you go ahead and post your real names, your pictures, where you live, and where you work.  Not going to do that because you are uncomfortable with that?  No sh*t!

Just recently Captain Zero took some pot-shots at me and then actually made a posting ENCOURAGING other people to attack me.  Captain Zero, you stop that also.  Do you understand me?

I am not going to be murdered by some psychotic pulse motor psycho that is being egged on by some free energy sourpuss that dislikes rational thought, and you two stop it right now.

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« Reply #176 on: July 20, 2014, 12:56:31 AM »
Theoria:

Re:  Your explanation for the ferrofluid cones.

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simplex lowest pressure seeking mutual reciprocation

What do you mean by 'simplex?'

What pressure?  What are the units for this pressure?  How is it measured?

Mutual reciprocation of what?  Reciprocation between what entities?

How does this all explain ferrofluid taking on a conical shape when under the influence of a magnetic field?

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #177 on: July 20, 2014, 12:56:51 AM »
Call a photon whatever you like, but it doesn't change what it is! 


I agree in premise,  ;D  ;D Can call a rose another name, its properties are the same.......

however CANNOT agree definitionally
, because all it does is PROP UP the ENORMOUS BS of Atomistic "unicorn particles" that make up the bread and butter of the Cult of Quantum.


GR and QM are 100% no different than ancient Greek Atomism.


To make any cultist of GR or QM twitch like a worm... ask them to "define a field"  ;D ;D


You said:
""""You don't believe in photons, electrons,""""


You dont get it.    A: what I "believe" makes no matter, what  IS , is all that matters.

You cannot keep using and evoking forth the PANTHEON OF PARTICLE BS  (of GR and QM), all it does is "feed the beast" that the Universe is an OCEAN of pixie-dust and unicorn "magic" particles  ::)  :o

No such pixie dust nonsense, these are mental excreta concepts from GR and QM.



Have you even READ the  horsesh*t that comes from fools like  Feynman (and the morons like him) to explain magnetism and action at a distance  ?????
   ;D  ;D

That Feynman and others have declared (as he has done in his mystical book: QED strange theory of light and matter) that
magnetism is mediated by “virtual photons” is no different than the Pope declaring mother Marry as healing a sick child from a
pendant worn at the neck. Humanity has placed, as dept. chairs in countless universities and likewise, heads of mathematics and
physics, people who are quite literally insane, are deep thinkers, but insane ones. The insane asylums of the world are full of genuinely
deep thinkers, however it is not for sake of deep thinking they are locked up and away from others! So, taking a cue from Quantum
mysticism we then ask the expert (fool) relativist “since you declare magnetism to be mediated by ‘virtual photons’, what is same?”.

Answer received? Yes, here we have it: “A virtual particle is an abstraction, which facilitates in calculations and understanding, the
term is very vague and loosely defined, they never appear as inputs or outputs of experiments, their existence is questionable at
best,…however they are very useful in rendering concepts and making equations balance out”. Well, insanity has been reified, at last!



Time should play the part instead of meters or distance. We should look upon Time as the result of the force that impels a body through space. The greater the force, the shorter the time, and the shorter also the space to be traversed. Thus, if the force were infinitely great, time and space would be infinitely small, they would cease to exist. If the force was infinitely small, time and space would be infinitely great. But, again the force is not everything, because in reality it does not exist. All that exists is the impulse that is applied to the body in space and imparts momentum to it. The body's movement is then only limited by the resistance it has to overcome. What does exist then is the momentum that arises from the impulse of the force, and not the force itself.


Time, like SPACE, is a POSTERIOR to fields.    Time is just another human perceptual SKR3W.
Time, like space "does nothing"  "acts on nothing" and "causes nothing".

Induction between fields extrapolated (wrongly) as = TIME is wrong, even the ancient Greeks knew this fact.



Like the world FIELD (Khora), people throw around the word  FORCE   ;D  ;D  ;D

Force = tension = induction = field interactions.

Reifications of attributional properties of ONE PRINCIPLE (fields [Ether modalities]) is only a convolution of simplex truths of how nature works.

There are no “lines of force” .....polarization is by definition a force of Ether pressure gradients WITHIN which space is present and therefore SO TOO IS FORCE present.    There are no forces in space, there is SPACE created in a field which translates INTO force as fields generate, terminate, move divergently, convergently, centrifugally, centripetally etc etc etc

charge / discharge   on and on.



Even Plato and Plotinus warned about reification of Xaos (space).   Its a necessitated (ananke  GREEK TERM) attribute of fields (Khora/ Chora).

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #178 on: July 20, 2014, 01:04:07 AM »
The light from the LED's warps around the magnets as it passes through the fluid.


YES, and all that does is prop up what I said in the book,  that light, having a radial dielectric component will warp around the DIELECTRIC INERTIAL PLANE of the "magnet".    ;D  ;D



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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #179 on: July 20, 2014, 01:08:22 AM »
Quote: SeaMonkey

" When men get all hypersensitive and start talkin'
like "wimmin" - it's the old power thing again.

Insult - Schminsult - now you guys are starting to
sound like Erron over at EF.

The Attackers here are very skilled at provoking
confrontational exchanges;  they're also very
good at deflecting responsibility.  They seem to
think their privileged status exempts them from
the rules of good order and discipline.  That they
have earned the "right" to play mischief in their
attacks.

Nothing is more pathetic than a Forum Man who
can dish it out but can't take the blowback.

You of course know to whom these references are
being made.

Set the Example of Gentlemanly conduct and it
will be found that Courtesy is Contagious.

Unless the Bad Boys persist in their fun...

But remember, there is a better Way. "



'Profoundly stated and undeniably true.'



And yes TA was somewhat condescending toward MH...but deservedly so...and is appreciated by me fror doing what NOBODY else around here has done...and that is make MH go silent.

The serenity was welcomed by many, but alas, short lived, as he has found shelter in the intervention of other wise but honest members who have begun to engage the theories of TA.

Rarely has someone (MH) who knows so much done so little.


Wattsup and GB are two of the most  knowledgeable members here, and people I respect and lean from...the other usual suspects, I have learned its best to scroll on by.

Their focus is on constructive ideaology, as opposed to the destructive negativity espoused incessantly on newly raised subject matter.

Such activity is regularly used by the gatekeepers to stunt the outgrowth of new concepts, which many times is the outcome of failed experiments.

Carry on 'gentlemen'.

Regards...