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TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #555 on: July 24, 2014, 01:18:10 PM »
whoops, duplicate post

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #556 on: July 24, 2014, 03:15:19 PM »
Opposite spins shown here in this video.
Please remember-we are looking at MY setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n358gtR7gr8

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #557 on: July 24, 2014, 03:30:54 PM »
Here's a visually stimulating image of the big magnet we live on that clearly shows the accretion disc.

Map of all the tropical cyclones from 1985-2005, courtesy  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg

picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #558 on: July 24, 2014, 05:00:58 PM »
Opposite spins shown here in this video.
Please remember-we are looking at MY setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n358gtR7gr8

Tinman,

i did not know if you would post, but I knew you would have to play!

Just a few suggestions:

1.  Insulate the shank/threads of the screw  to help clear the field of view

2.  It might be interesting to cut a 3" or so diameter disc from a piece of thin, fairly rigid, clear plastic material and cut a hole in the middle that you can slip the magnet thru.  Ideally the ID of the center hole would be such that it is a slip fit on the magnet OD.

You could perform several tests with the plastic disc in various positions along the magnet's length, i.e., close to the bottom pole, at the center of the magnet, and then near the top pole.

The use of the disc will help isolate any hydrodynamic/bubble flow from the bottom of the magnet (it will be forced outward and awayby the plastic baffle) which might assist in visualizing where flow is occurring.

3.  As well, you might try repeating the tests with/without tape on the sides of the magnet while the bottom pole of the magnet is insulated with a disc of electrical tape.

4.  It might be interesting to visualize/verify the flow in areas where bubbles may not be.  The use of a magic marker, or syringe/tube with food coloring injected comes to mind but eventually will cloud your tank.  Although I am not sure how well you would be able to video through a beaker or jar, moving the experiment over to a smaller container would allow you perform flow visualization within an amount of electrolyte more readily changed when it becomes clouded from ink, dye. or coloring used to visualize flow.

Food for thought:

Keep in mind that even with the tape applied to the sides of the magnet, the bulk resistance of the electrolyte, through which current flows, is generally at a right angle to the magnetic axis.  Also, regarding the observed flow, keep in mind that during electrolysis, there are ions involved.  As H2 is generated in a given area, the negative ions formed there are repelled away from that area.

The point is, it may be that we are seeing the effects of both (A.) bulk current flow generally towards, and at right angle to, the magnetic axis and hence a homopolar effect, and as well (B.), the repulsion of negative ions as they are formed during H2 production.  By convention, charges (or ions) of opposite polarity will be deflected in opposite directions by a given magnetic polarity.  As well, the current flow through the bulk resistance (electrolyte) experiences the fields of the magnet regardless of whether or not the magnet is insulated, so as bulk current flow becomes sufficient, it is not unreasonable to expect that the homopolar effect would dominate over any observed ion "wind".


PW

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #559 on: July 24, 2014, 06:44:09 PM »
 To: TheoriaApophasis 
 
 
Here below is the thread by Mark Snoswell, he was posting seven years ago on magnet vortex spin, I know that you will like this… Now Mark is the chief technology officer at http://www.chavaenergy.com/
 
Dr. Mark Snoswell, Chief Technology Officer: Dr. Mark Snoswell graduated from Adelaide University with an Honours degree in Biochemistry in late 70s. Mark has a diverse career since then including: PhD in Biotechnology/Biochemistry; CTO of Torson Inc – a global sports biomechanics and edutainment company; Founder and Chairman of Ballistic Media – a global corporation that includes BallsiticPublishing.com and the CGSociety.org; Mark is also the President of the CGSociety. More recently Mark has been developing breakthrough concepts for how our universe works and new devices to generate clean and abundant power using solid state electromagnetic systems.
 
 
http://www.overunity.com/2764/spinor-resonance-explanation-for-tpu-like-devices/#.U9EyaKyLN8U
 
 
 
Here are may old clips, looks like we are on the same track…
 
Thanks for the book !!! Now the was allot of effort !! Don’t let the ass*oles get you distracted ….
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1TnGGeeP0I&list=UUKp4xN6pwIVRqiKhtdc_Wsw
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXifaqdbLhs&index=37&list=UUKp4xN6pwIVRqiKhtdc_Wsw
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR7c4iXum-A
 
 
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picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #560 on: July 24, 2014, 07:10:43 PM »
Opposite spins shown here in this video.
Please remember-we are looking at MY setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n358gtR7gr8

Tinman,

As an additional test of any ion "wind" mentioned in my previous post, you might consider reversing polarity on your tank and try generating O2 at the magnet instead.  Keeping track of the magnet polarity, perform the test generating H2 first (with the sides taped for clarity) and then reverse polarity on the tank to produce O2 at the magnet (assuming you can produce sufficient O2 for visualization).  Note what effect the two polarities have regarding the spins observed at the pole piece and when motoring.

PW

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #561 on: July 24, 2014, 07:28:06 PM »
ACCA
Thank you for the reminder,  Mark S is a good fellow and quite approachable ...


I think I will give him a ring to see if he has any comments on this [ also to invite his input]


thx
Chet

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #562 on: July 24, 2014, 07:53:44 PM »
Just wondering whether a magnet strong enough to be suspended by a ball bearing would free up the magnet enough to spin opposite to the vortex.

Regards...



picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #563 on: July 24, 2014, 08:15:26 PM »
Just wondering whether a magnet strong enough to be suspended by a ball bearing would free up the magnet enough to spin opposite to the vortex.

Regards...

If whatever emanates from the poles of a magnet has an actual physical spin as TA depicts, is it unreasonable to expect that two like poles in axial alignment and proximity would cause the magnets to spin?  Fairly easy to test.  If necessary it may also be possible to devise an experiment using open center cylindrical magnets wherein the "centripetal" field/flux is routed through the center of the cylindrical magnets to the opposing pole so that the majority of the flux being tested for rotation involves primarily the more external "centrifugal" flux.

As well, if there are indeed physically rotating fields, it would be reasonable to expect that two magnets placed side by side with their magnetic axes parallel and supported by bearings to rotate when brought into proximity.

If the vortex observed in all these experiments utilizing current flow to generate H2 exist solely as a property of the magnet alone, and not the interaction of electric/ion currents flowing in proximity to the magnet, should not that vortex or spin cause magnets aligned as above to also spin?

With the many attempts made to create PM only motors, why has this spin not yet been observed?

Possibly TA's diagrams refer only to motionless field polarities/vectors emanating to/from the magnetic poles.

PW

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #564 on: July 24, 2014, 09:13:13 PM »
If necessary it may also be possible to devise an experiment using open center cylindrical magnets wherein the "centripetal" field/flux is routed through the center of the cylindrical magnets to the opposing pole so that the majority of the flux being tested for rotation involves primarily the more external "centrifugal" flux.

PW



Here is the view of ONLY THE CENTRIPETAL (center point ONLY) vortex as filmed thru a pair of optical glass with micron thin FERROFLUID in between , and ringed by LED lights

however even using 2 lights, you can see the same thing


THIS IS CENTRIPETAL IMAGE ONLY pictured below,   NO CENTRIFUGAL IS SHOWN


THEN, I show you BOTH, with a bit of the ringed centriFUGAL  around the centripetal




THEN,  pictured below [as found in the book] BASED UPON MY CALCULATIONS (before seeing these REAL FIELD (not created) IMAGES), IS MY PREDICTION OF THEIR APPEARANCE,......WHICH IS 100% IDENTICAL


Necessitated field INTERLACING..........centrifugal against centripetal, and centripetal against centrifugal   makes this geometry not only "possible"  >>>>> but 100% ABSOLUTELY MANDATORY, necessitated, it cannot exist any other way.   <<<<<<

How do opposite fields "movements" [since movement itself is really a mirage posterior to the field itself]......(this time referring to magnetism only as per CW against CCW, and CCW against CW) conjugate at max velocity with the LOWEST SPATIAL DISTENTION in their mutual reciprocation???  They vortex around and 'thru each other' IN this pattern and ONLY THIS PATTERN

Pressure, anti-spatial (counterspatial) opposite moving distentions (radiations) necessitate (Greeks called this ANANKE) this magneto-spatial geometry.

The key point everyone 'misses' is that magnetism is radiation, is a circular Ether modality, and MUST by its very definition, both in connotation and denotation >>>>>> "create space" <<<<<<<

HOWEVER, circular field reciprocation is EXPRESSED (as it MUST be) by CW and CCW vortex interlacing

Even the vortex itself is a mirage of space and time,     Polarization = space/time = "Space" = radiation.   The "mirage of space" as fields reciprocate upon themselves creates the vortex (while hard to see using normal media) 'painted' upon the canvas of spacetime and as us dumb humans see it with various oddball testing media.

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #565 on: July 24, 2014, 09:19:35 PM »
Here's a visually stimulating image of the big magnet we live on that clearly shows the accretion disc.

Map of all the tropical cyclones from 1985-2005, courtesy  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_tropical_cyclone_tracks-edit2.jpg


Excellent job..........I have an experiment I keep working on that shows the dielectric inertial plane creates "cyclones" along the 'equator' of the  magnet as well.

However I cannot post pics of this device or experiment (yet),.......but I assure you, yes, it is there

it goes round in waves and undulations and creates, from time to time interesting (what on earth would be) cyclones from the dielectric inertial plane (as you so-called it, the dielectric accretion disk)


So tired, been resetting experiments for days,  only few hours sleep for past few days.

thumbs up.

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #566 on: July 24, 2014, 09:21:54 PM »
To: TheoriaApophasis 
 
 
Here below is the thread by Mark Snoswell, he was posting seven years ago on magnet vortex spin, I know that you will like this… Now Mark is the chief technology officer at http://www.chavaenergy.com/
 
Dr. Mark Snoswell, Chief Technology Officer: Dr. Mark Snoswell graduated from Adelaide University with an Honours degree in Biochemistry in late 70s. Mark has a diverse career since then including: PhD in Biotechnology/Biochemistry; CTO of Torson Inc – a global sports biomechanics and edutainment company; Founder and Chairman of Ballistic Media – a global corporation that includes BallsiticPublishing.com and the CGSociety.org; Mark is also the President of the CGSociety. More recently Mark has been developing breakthrough concepts for how our universe works and new devices to generate clean and abundant power using solid state electromagnetic systems.
 
 
http://www.overunity.com/2764/spinor-resonance-explanation-for-tpu-like-devices/#.U9EyaKyLN8U
 
 
 
Here are may old clips, looks like we are on the same track…
 
Thanks for the book !!! Now the was allot of effort !! Don’t let the ass*oles get you distracted ….
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1TnGGeeP0I&list=UUKp4xN6pwIVRqiKhtdc_Wsw
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXifaqdbLhs&index=37&list=UUKp4xN6pwIVRqiKhtdc_Wsw
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR7c4iXum-A
 
 
Ps..
 
“MileHigh you don’t exist  !!! your words a worthless even with some 3000 posts !!”
 
Don’t respond….!!



thanks for the links, Iemmie take some peeks and see.........  Well, the book isnt done , it has twice (or more) to add to it, new experiments, and some amazing stuff that even shocked me.


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picowatt

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #567 on: July 24, 2014, 09:29:42 PM »


Here is the view of ONLY THE CENTRIPETAL (center point ONLY) vortex as filmed thru a pair of optical glass with micron thin FERROFLUID in between , and ringed by LED lights

however even using 2 lights, you can see the same thing


THIS IS CENTRIPETAL IMAGE ONLY pictured below,   NO CENTRIFUGAL IS SHOWN


THEN, I show you BOTH, with a bit of the ringed centriFUGAL  around the centripetal




THEN,  pictured below  BASED UPON MY CALCULATIONS (before seeing these REAL FIELD (not created) IMAGES), IS MY PREDICTION OF THEIR APPEARANCE,......WHICH IS 100% IDENTICAL

How does one infer spin "direction" from the apparently symmetrical patterns portrayed in the images posted?

As I agree with your comments regarding the fallacies of using iron filings to determine field patterns/shapes due to the multitude of individual magnets thereby created and thereto aligned, this would also seem true for any iron filings or magnetic material regardless how small those filings or materials are milled and suspended.  The interactions may take on finer detail as particle size decreases producing more intricate patterns, but are they not, in the end, merely a higher resolution pattern with the same fallacies of the more macroscopic iron filings?

(Please, the use of bold and caps is not necessary.  To the contrary, most consider it as shouting, which is uncalled for.)

PW

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #568 on: July 24, 2014, 09:37:01 PM »


Here is the view of ONLY THE CENTRIPETAL (center point ONLY) vortex as filmed thru a pair of optical glass with micron thin FERROFLUID in between , and ringed by LED lights

however even using 2 lights, you can see the same thing


THIS IS CENTRIPETAL IMAGE ONLY pictured below,   NO CENTRIFUGAL IS SHOWN


THEN, I show you BOTH, with a bit of the ringed centriFUGAL  around the centripetal




THEN,  pictured below [as found in the book] BASED UPON MY CALCULATIONS (before seeing these REAL FIELD (not created) IMAGES), IS MY PREDICTION OF THEIR APPEARANCE,......WHICH IS 100% IDENTICAL


TA,

In screenshot 1825, is this an end on view of a magnetic pole?  Can you indicate where the extents of the physical dimensions of the magnet used are located behind the glass/pattern?  I.e., if this is an end on view of a cylindrical magnet pole, where does the OD of the magnet end in relation to, say, the circularly defined center pattern?

PW

TheoriaApophasis

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Re: Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos
« Reply #569 on: July 24, 2014, 09:49:18 PM »

TA,

In screenshot 1825, is this an end on view of a magnetic pole?  Can you indicate where the extents of the physical dimensions of the magnet used are located behind the glass/pattern?  I.e., if this is an end on view of a cylindrical magnet pole, where does the OD of the magnet end in relation to, say, the circularly defined center pattern?

PW


YES, it is a zoomed in image of ONLY the centripetal vortex (however even the very center is still influenced by centrifugal inductive force which still necessitates (only much tighter) this geometry    (until in reaches inside at the midpoint of reintegration).


Its a "dilated" view of the centripetal,  using a RING magnet............So you can see a MUCH BIGGER view of the centripetal of a SOLID disk magnet,  BY HOW.???       Simple.........Ring magnet.

its the same AS a disk magnet , only magnified so you can see it better.

Disk magnet you can barely barely see it, because its so small and tight.




regardless however, the centrifugal (see BOTTOM PIC) on a CUBE (1/4") magnet is the same   ......black is the face of the magnet

far AWAY from the viewer, and this tiny cube magnet......you can see the centrifugal only (of course, as it should be)