Great Atommix93rdAtom1! You reached the performance of another two persons here on this forum which have now a place of honor in my ignore list. Hope you will appreciate this and will stop polluting this topic.

I like this sense of humor. It is challenging. Something like chess and your tone is like someone just made a checkmate. Not quit my friend.

Like I said such answers are there you just need to work it out. With the proper reflection, you will find it and you will see that the data will match as well.

The rock is also the cloud. The cloud does the same thing as the rock at sunrise, noon and sunset except that they are not anchored so the total atoms are involved and at night they also rest. When the cloud is there it's shadow is like the first layer of the rock so the actual first layer of the rock becomes the second layer of the rock even though it's the surface. When the cloud is thicker it acts like more layers of the rock and the rock acts like the 3rd, 4th, 5th ,6th ,7th layer of rock so they are cooler. Kind of hard to explain this quickly but you could integrate this into a system and compare the surface temp data - hehehe. They respond to gravity as well as their own inter atomic gravity within themselves and this creates what??? Spin and spin creates what, more spin and soon enough even the air atoms are now spinning as well until they are so fast that they create what? Thunderful.

But better still. I am sure such a deeper line of investigation with SC would lead to anti-gravity.

As for QVZPE, if I can look at the past and progress to today, if QVZPE has been around since 111 years, where the F are the OU devices? So something is definitely wrong and I will not fix it. Just don't have the time. When SC is out, if they want to use it to fix their ideas, be my guest. But you can pursue it by all means. Let me know where you are in a few more years. I mean they are only years that pass by. Nothing important, just another life looking into QVZPE over 111 years, let's make it 112, just great. I could say more but it is NOT IMPORTANT right now.

Anyone working on OU device development in a commercial or donational way will always want a way to talk about where the energy is coming from so some decided to call it QVZPE, others call it Ether, others call it Quackery, while others want to handcuff it as the boson. Boson, Bozo names will only be names. If I looked into it further with SC, I could explain the effect especially if conductive atoms are involved in excitation or sensors taking down data. You can't get away from SC man. If the data produced is good, the construct, SC could explain it. SC is not your run of the mill construct ma'man. This is big. With SC, the world around you will come to life in its atomic wonder while others will still be scratching their heads with this QVZPE. But go for it if it does it for you.

SC will explain so many effects it just makes me cry sometimes because I know I will never be able to see it all. It's just way to big for one furt ass like me, I know. It's way to big so this is why it is very important that I be able to put this down as right as possible. It's just too big. I really think this will be the new basis. And I'm the guy that invented Wire X so don't worry, I have a habit of checking and rechecking and rechecking again to a very high level of logic. I'm just flabbergasted when I think to hard about it so I have to calm down.

wattsup

So clouds are gravity shields, according to your hobby theory. According to your theory, rain would fall upward, or at the very least would exhibit a variable level of gravity and thus gravitational acceleration, and thus a variable free-fall speed, depending upon the height of the cloud from which that rain is falling and thus the amount of gravity the total column of rain is blocking... your theory is even Whackier Than Wheelerism.

Now you'll have to account in your hobby theory for the Lamb Shift, a direct result of electron interaction with the QVZPE field... or just deny it, as you've denied the difference in mass of a proton and neutron and everything that isn't mass, thereby erasing the majority of the universe.

Just so you know, and quite ironically, inducing a synthetic inverse Lamb shift via Casimir Effect is one way of extracting QVZPE without any penalty of having to pay back that energy, and without the energetic cost of extracting it... you simply artificially lower QVZPE field density locally, which lowers electron orbitals of a noble gas inside that artificially-lowered QVZPE field density environment, causing that noble gas to give off photons which are captured and converted to electricity or heat. Once the noble gas exits that artificially-lowered QVZPE field density environment, it absorbs energy from the QVZPE field to return electron orbitals to their normal states, rinse and repeat. There are two methods of lowering QVZPE field density artificially... inside a well-shielded Casimir Cavity, or using specially designed magnetic flux paths (given that magnetism stresses the QVZPE field density, contracting or dilating space-time depending upon which magnetic interface you're considering).

And just so you know, the Lamb shift provides a very precise measurement of the fine structure constant and thus a powerful corroboration of Quantum Mechanics... the fine structure constant, which is exactly what your hobby theory denies exists. It's been known about for 100 years, and experimentally, empirically proven many, many times.

The above is what comes about from a deep understanding of the underlying fundamentals of how the universe works... one of the methods is patented and empirically, experimentally proven. Your hobby universe will never result in anything of the sort because it's even more FUBAR than Wheelerism.

You'll have to also account for magnetism itself... or weren't you aware that magnetism is an observed effect as a result of length contraction of the QVZPE field, the QVZPE field being the fabric of space-time? In your world, electromagnetic radiation could not exist, magnetism could not exist, light could not exist, time could not exist... the universe could not exist.

@CycleGuy

What are you talking about? You obviously did not read my post otherwise you would not have posted such a piece of crap insults.

I told you already about QVZPE. If it involves conductive exciters or sensors I can work it out with SC.

Incredibly, what I gave you touches upon so many effects but if you prefer to waddle away in your QVZPE, good luck. Ask them the same questions you asked me and wait for their answers.

wattsup

Ask whom? The proponents of Quantum Mechanics? I have, they've answered cogently with mathematically corroborated replies which reflect underlying reality.

You've denied reality and dismissed things which refute your hobby theory, all while expounding upon a hobby theory that is so easily disproved even a child could do it by merely asking you to explain the universal gravitational constant in relation to your hobby theory... or asking, if clouds are gravity shields as you purport, why, for instance, cirrostratus clouds above lower altostratus clouds above lower stratocumulus clouds don't just float off the planet... or asking why, if one is in a tall building, the "gravity shielding" you purport occurs from all that material on the floors above and below one's location doesn't affect one's weight from floor to floor... or asking why clouds are able to effectively block gravity so much that the atoms of the rocks below don't swing wildly back and forth between the sun's gravity and the earth's gravity, thus heating up, as you purport happens as means of your getting around denying massless entities and thus photons and thus light, yet the clouds don't heat up so much the moisture in those clouds dissipates... or why, if one is on a submarine at depth, one's weight doesn't change with changing depth if all that water above and below is acting as a gravity shield (remember, you've stated clouds are gravity shields, and clouds are water... so seawater or lake water should be an even more effective gravity shield, right?)... so many examples that disprove the Wheelerization of Wheelerism that constitutes your hobby theory... none of which you can explain, let alone back up with mathematics.

And you'll have to further contend with the fact that researchers have now photographed the electron and the virtual photon flux that constitutes magnetism:
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2011/08/this_is_an_imag.php
http://io9.com/the-first-image-ever-of-a-hydrogen-atoms-orbital-struc-509684901
https://youtu.be/ofp-OHIq6Wo
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17983-magnetricity-observed-for-first-time.html

And you'll have to further contend with the fact that researchers at Chalmers University concretized virtual photons straight from the QVZPE field using Dynamical Casimir Effect:
https://www.chalmers.se/en/news/Pages/Chalmers-scientists-create-light-from-vacuum.aspx
Remember, your hobby theory denies the existence of anything that doesn't have mass... so no QVZPE field, no photons and most especially no virtual photons. Do you even know what "virtual" means in this context?

Your hobby theory is unworkable, it cannot reflect reality, as even a grade-school child could ascertain. I'll leave you to deal with the personal repercussions of your acceptance of that reality... but just know that eventually you will be required to acknowledge that reality. The only question, really, is how many years of your life you're going to waste denying that reality.

My current ignore list. I simply don't have the time nor the inclination to set right those who insist on scurrying through the brambles of odd theories, rather than embracing reality.

Acca - a combination of proud Wheelerism booster and insulting troll. Utterly incapable of contributing anything of value whatsoever because he's so intent on following in the footstomping footsteps of his mentor. 

Joel321 - more than a little dimwitted, attempts to bolster his image by dragging others down with his inane and childlike requests that others justify their existence before he'll deign to insult them further... then he insults them further. "How do you fix an HVAC system?" indeed. "Well, I walks up to it, puts my gauge doohickey on it, pumps some of that there Freons in it, and that generally put her right." would likely be an acceptable answer for Joel321. Which malfunctioning component of the HVAC system, exhibiting what symptoms and under which circumstances? Joel321 doesn't like specifics, that'd prove he doesn't know, either. 

wattsup - promotes a hobby theory that is Whackier Than Wheelerism, something along the lines of "there is only matter, nothing else. Thus, because energy transfer doesn't require mediation, sound can travel through a vacuum. Daytime is hotter than nighttime because all the molecules are wildly swinging between the gravity of Earth and that of the sun, unless clouds are present. Clouds are gravity shields." 

Atommix93rdAtom1 - obviously either insane or a very unadept conman attempting to get money to build fantastical devices, none of which he's demonstrated nor even provided a mathematical framework for, unless you count as "mathematical proof" wall posters of MS Paint artwork conglomerating bits and pieces of theories to support his contentions, and a two-page base-9 "new math" fiddling in which he doesn't properly close out equations and randomly switches numbers around to arrive at whatever answer he wants. 

                                                    Mathematical reality is that all mathematics are completely pointless until the time you need them  ! 

                                                                                                              Study this human

Would you question it or except it ? The lines of flux are north to south east to west ! Show me a magnet that can do that ? Only the laws of harmonics can do that ! And until you learn what they are and what they do you will always be wrong about everything ...

Yes it's like the Rodin torus it will do mono pole no problem. but your drawing is a little different

Atom, You know how to make me lough for all day   Thanks!

What is so hard on teleportation of water??  F... simple.   Actually on this principle works my Free energy device.  Come out with something more interesting.

CycleGuy trying to explain abstract concepts using other abstract concepts which in their turn are founded on the bunch of abstract concepts, without even sensing the humor of the situation is not a good sign.

You accumulate serious knowledge but still don't sense the circular thinking of current so called science, regardless of what branch we talk about. And still don't have the courage to ask the fundamental bricks of the science. Only after you will make this step will begin to sense a glimpse of the great veil.

The images you make reference is just a way to define something we call electron or photons, only one way from infinite other potential ways if you choose other comparative references to start the analysis and interpretation. No one ever filmed, photographed or seen an electron or a photon. Both of them are only resultant effect of specific interactions of various fields, result for which we defined specific characteristics and call it matter. So, no one will manage sometime to see an electron (or any other of what we now call elementary particle) as it has no concrete reality rather than all that attributed by us. Or with Tesla's words "Ether is the cause of every magnetic field. Electricity could not exist without the Ether. Ether is the medium for all EM waves from radio to gamma..." or with Ken's words "Space is the posterior attribute of fields".

An electron is matter, it has rest mass. It is a "mass defect" in the QVZPE field, it rejects QVZPE field modes longer than its radius, just as all matter does... that's what gives it its mass, it's traded relativistic mass and energy for rest mass. It is permanent, it doesn't subsume back into the QVZPE field.

So referring to matter as a "wave" or as "specific interactions of various fields" is a conflation that doesn't work, unless you know of any "waves" that can get stuck in position... especially considering that matter doesn't constitute a "wave" at all, it constitutes a "dent" in the fabric of space-time... remember, that's how the effect we know as gravity works. Taken to its extreme, a black hole shows that this "dent" is a raising of the entropic properties of a region of space-time... black holes are highly entropic.

In effect, matter is an attempt by the universe to reach its true entropic "ground state", whereas the QVZPE field is an energetic field above this ground high-entropy state. There are two methods by which the universe increases entropy... expansion and concretization of mass. Time is nothing more than the observed differential between entropic states of a certain space of space-time.

The Hawking-Bekenstein entropy formulation:
S = 4π k/ђc GM²
along with what has been called the Mass-Boom Effect:
Mc² – GM² /R = 0
means that for mass to form, entropy must increase.

Thus, mass is a higher-entropy form, whereas the QVZPE field is a lower-entropy form, and the energy traversing the QVZPE field is an even lower entropy form. If this were not so, the QVZPE field could not impart its energy level to matter to keep electrons from falling below their 1s orbitals. That's why it is said that the QVZPE field underpins the stability of all matter.

Massless entities constitute waves upon the QVZPE field... but note that you can slam two photons together and create a "dent" in space-time that makes electrons... in essence turning energy into a more entropic form.

Relativistic mass constitutes a "damping" of the energetic perturbations that are massless entities (photons, virtual photons, etc.), pulling that wave or energetic perturbation closer to the midpoint delineating mass and massless that we know as the QVZPE field. This has been experimentally proven by firing photons through a reduced QVZPE field density environment... their apparent speed exceeded c... they were "riding higher" above the plane of the QVZPE field and were thus less affected by it... they maintained a lower entropy.

Are you saying no one has ever filmed, photographed or seen any other matter because it's "specific interactions of various fields"? That'd be a bit nonsensical, don't you think?

In point of fact, the Max Planck Institute of Quantum Optics has developed an attosecond laser that does let them "photograph" an electron. In further point of fact, the photons concretized from the QVZPE field by Chalmers University were captured on camera, and researchers have the ability to capture and "photograph" single photons now.

Capturing photons is kind of  how cameras work, after all... so your saying no one has ever captured a photon on camera doesn't make much sense, now does it?

Try this tin man !!

Anyone that does not have a free energy generator off grid is a dummy and knows nothing !!! That's the truth of it !!!! So how many dummy's are there here ? ALL OF YOU HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL WOW THATS A LOT OF DUMMYS ..... HAHAHAHAHAH

Only a couple of dummies here.
1-being the dummy making all these claim's,without evidence to back it up-->and that be you 93rd.
Show us this wonderous generator in operation