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Title: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: gmbajszar on July 06, 2014, 05:29:39 AM
Is the logic in the drawing flawed that the right side of the wheel would be lighter than the left side?

George
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: MarkE on July 06, 2014, 09:42:36 AM
Is the logic in the drawing flawed that the right side of the wheel would be lighter than the left side?

George
Yes.
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: AB Hammer on July 06, 2014, 11:32:16 PM
Is the logic in the drawing flawed that the right side of the wheel would be lighter than the left side?

George

I hope you have cooked the sausages before the bacteria made them go bad. Then you will just have to give them to the dogs. Or is that why you posted them here? LOL

On a more informative note. You have no gain for the weight changes the effect to the wheel when it is also applied to another surface like a ramp.

Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: TinselKoala on July 07, 2014, 12:19:53 AM
Overunity sausages can be very tasty when properly prepared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dAQ4c13wdw
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: tinman on July 07, 2014, 03:23:18 PM
Overunity sausages can be very tasty when properly prepared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dAQ4c13wdw
LMAO-beats a microwave for visuals TK.
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: TinselKoala on July 07, 2014, 11:22:09 PM
Like that? There are drinks to go with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gSXi3BkkNA
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: minnie on July 07, 2014, 11:56:40 PM



 Nice cooking Koala. I tried a similar thing on Sunday. My mares had escaped into fresh
grass and were in danger of developing laminitis. Solution, electric fence. I strung up
the wire and put the energiser etc. on the other side so the animals wouldn't get at it,
switched on and had a good test so crawled back under the wire on hands and knees
and then crack on my bum. Must have been a good hot spark because I could feel the
burn for more than half an hour! All fours and damp grass = good earthing.
            John.
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: gmbajszar on July 08, 2014, 01:54:03 AM
The idea is expanded with the picture below. Again, the idea that if the sausage train is partially resting on a slope, then it has a lesser weight than sausage trains that hang in a vertical position. So we try to slide a slope under them so they have less weight.

George
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: TinselKoala on July 08, 2014, 01:59:51 AM
Yes, we get the idea, we really do.

If you have a wheel and just drape the chain over it without attaching, then put the ramp under one side and lift up the chain dangling on that side (inputting work to the system), sure enough the wheel will rotate and all the chain will roll off the wheel on the other side... because the wheel doesn't have to lift that part of the chain back up. And it will do it exactly one time, before you have to get in there and apply work to reset the apparatus back to the starting state.

However if you have the chain attached to the wheel as you have shown, in segments, the wheel has to lift the chain back up, as well as drag it onto and up the sloping ramp. It will not work.
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: gmbajszar on July 08, 2014, 02:07:53 AM
Using chains and not sausages is an excellent twist to the drama. Others probably point out, chains don't rot, sausages would be too expensive to maintain.
Title: Re: Perpetual motion machine built out of sausages
Post by: Pirate88179 on July 08, 2014, 03:38:01 AM
Using chains and not sausages is an excellent twist to the drama. Others probably point out, chains don't rot, sausages would be too expensive to maintain.

You could eat them and later, tap into the energy created by the release of methane gas.  Be careful though, explosions are likely to happen.

Bill