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Author Topic: Akula eternal lantern 4  (Read 197060 times)

Offline Hoppy

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #165 on: March 05, 2015, 12:05:51 AM »
Hi Hoppy. Anyone who wants to sell fraudulent devices risks criminal charges or being sued.
Seems pretty dumb. At any rate, Akula and his German business partners are not selling the
device to end users. They say they are looking for investment or for licensing out the technology.
Any reasonable investor will simply arrange to fully test the device under their own conditions before
any money exchanges hands, so that is really not a major issue.
All the best...

You describe a fairly normal procedure. A 'self-running' label and the products application is the key to its attractiveness and thus success in the marketplace. The issue is not that the device would not test out satisfactorily by an investor, rather can a Lasersaber type of device be honestly described as self-running under the general understanding that this term describes a device that operates from energy not stored and drawn from a capacitor that has been pre-charged from an external battery. My opinion is that if such a device were to be marketed with a self-running label, then it would at least be dishonest.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
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Offline Void

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #166 on: March 05, 2015, 12:25:52 AM »
You describe a fairly normal procedure. A 'self-running' label and the products application is the key to its attractiveness and thus success in the marketplace. The issue is not that the device would not test out satisfactorily by an investor, rather can a Lasersaber type of device be honestly described as self-running under the general understanding that this term describes a device that operates from energy not stored and drawn from a capacitor that has been pre-charged from an external battery. My opinion is that if such a device were to be marketed with a self-running label, then it would at least be dishonest.

Hi Hoppy. Yes, leaving the device running for a long duration in a test lab might be advisable,
but you could also just check for super caps or similar if you do a full disassembly and inspect/test/measure
each individual part. I think any reasonably cautious person would request to be able to do such thorough testing
before agreeing to any money exchange. If they don't agree to such a test, then an investor can simply move on.
Again, not a major problem. :)
All the best...


Offline MarkE

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #167 on: March 05, 2015, 12:58:16 AM »
So various people keep speculating. Yet none of these same people have actually contacted Akula and
his business partners and talked with them and arranged to see the device in person. Of course you will probably need to
have some interested investors on board before they will take the time to meet with you, as any business
person would likely require in such a situation. ;) Speculation is only speculation. It might be true. It might not be true. ;)
All the best...
If you would like to pay my fees then I will be happy to show you in detail.  I only charge 10% of what the investor would invest if the claims were true.  By using my services the investor saves 90%.

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #167 on: March 05, 2015, 12:58:16 AM »
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Offline Void

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #168 on: March 05, 2015, 01:11:31 AM »
If you would like to pay my fees then I will be happy to show you in detail. 
I only charge 10% of what the investor would invest if the claims were true. 
By using my services the investor saves 90%.

Hi MarkE. If I had the money to invest in a device like this, I would go over
and talk to them in person and take a look at the device myself. ;)
All the best...


Offline MarkE

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #169 on: March 05, 2015, 02:23:21 AM »
Hi MarkE. If I had the money to invest in a device like this, I would go over
and talk to them in person and take a look at the device myself. ;)
All the best...
The Catch-22 for that plan is that if you do not already realize that it is a scam, then you probably do not have the skills necessary to evaluate it in person.  Whereas: if you realize the fact that it is a scam, then you probably would not have any interest in evaluating it in person.

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« Reply #169 on: March 05, 2015, 02:23:21 AM »
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Offline Void

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #170 on: March 05, 2015, 02:32:59 AM »
The Catch-22 for that plan is that if you do not already realize that it is a scam, then you probably do not have the skills necessary to evaluate it in person.  Whereas: if you realize the fact that it is a scam, then you probably would not have any interest in evaluating it in person.

I admire your blind faith, but I always prefer actual evidence to speculation.
If the opportunity arose, I would test the device thoroughly before attempting to
draw any conclusions, just as any reasonable person would do. The device will either
work as claimed, or it won't. ;)
All the best...


Offline MileHigh

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #171 on: March 05, 2015, 02:47:06 AM »
I admire your blind faith, but I always prefer actual evidence to speculation.
If the opportunity arose, I would test the device thoroughly before attempting to
draw any conclusions, just as any reasonable person would do. The device will either
work as claimed, or it won't. ;)
All the best...

The reality is that no combination of coils, resistors, capacitors, transistors, or MOSFETs can produce free energy.  Nonetheless, you have a revolving door with an endless stream of people pitching free energy circuits and people discussing and sometimes believing in these alleged free energy circuits.  So you have two agents stuck in the revolving door, the pitchers and the observers, endlessly turning and turning and turning and going nowhere.

Sometimes an observer drops some money onto the floor.  The bills slip under one of the doors and are picked up by the pitcher walking behind in the next compartment.  That feeds the system and keeps the door revolving and revolving and revolving.

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« Reply #171 on: March 05, 2015, 02:47:06 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #172 on: March 05, 2015, 02:52:29 AM »
I admire your blind faith, but I always prefer actual evidence to speculation.
If the opportunity arose, I would test the device thoroughly before attempting to
draw any conclusions, just as any reasonable person would do. The device will either
work as claimed, or it won't. ;)
All the best...
I think you have funny definitions of terms such as:  "blind faith", "evidence", and "speculation".

I suggest that you first learn what the term:  "passive" means.  Akula claims that all of his components are passive.  Ergo he claims none of his components produce energy.  Ergo the sum of those components cannot produce energy.  Ergo by his own statements, his demonstrations are not powered by the components he claims to use.  QED. 

Offline Void

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #173 on: March 05, 2015, 02:58:30 AM »
I think you have funny definitions of terms such as:  "blind faith", "evidence", and "speculation".
I suggest that you first learn what the term:  "passive" means.  Akula claims that all of his components are passive.  Ergo he claims none of his components produce energy.  Ergo the sum of those components cannot produce energy.  Ergo by his own statements, his demonstrations are not powered by the components he claims to use.  QED.

Actually Akula and his partners seem to be saying that they believe that they are tapping
into the Earth's magnetic field somehow, and they have also indicated that the composition
of the ferrite cores is also important in this device. Whether there is any truth to this or not remains to be seen.
All the best...


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Offline MarkE

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #174 on: March 05, 2015, 03:06:26 AM »
Actually Akula and his partners seem to be saying that they believe that they are tapping
into the Earth's magnetic field somehow, and they have also indicated that the composition
of the ferrite cores is also important in this device. Whether there is any truth to this or not remains to be seen.
All the best...
People say lots of things.  What they demonstrate is something else.

The Earth's magnetic field is for all purposes static at any given location on the planet's surface.  Ergo there is no changing flux to be intercepted.  Ergo there is no induction to be tapped.  Ergo any claim of "tapping into the Earth's magnetic field somehow" is utter BS.  QED.

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #175 on: March 05, 2015, 03:16:27 AM »
The Earth's magnetic field is for all purposes static at any given location on the planet's surface.  Ergo there is no changing flux to be intercepted.  Ergo there is no induction to be tapped.

Yes indeed.  All that you have to do is open up a science book and read and understand to understand this simple fact.

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« Reply #175 on: March 05, 2015, 03:16:27 AM »
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Offline Void

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #176 on: March 05, 2015, 03:22:18 AM »
People say lots of things.  What they demonstrate is something else.

The Earth's magnetic field is for all purposes static at any given location on the planet's surface.  Ergo there is no changing flux to be intercepted.  Ergo there is no induction to be tapped.  Ergo any claim of "tapping into the Earth's magnetic field somehow" is utter BS.  QED.

Using words like ergo and QED doesn't make your comments any more convincing to me. :)
They of course could be wrong about the Earth's magnetic field explanation, but if they are wrong about
that, that still doesn't necessarily mean the device doesn't work. They may just not really understand what
is really making it tick. This is all besides the point, because when it comes down to it, any investor who is on
the ball at all will insist on a thorough testing under their own conditions before giving them any money. ;)
All the best...


Offline MarkE

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #177 on: March 05, 2015, 03:22:28 AM »
Yes indeed.  All that you have to do is open up a science book and read and understand to understand this simple fact.
Or one can open up a pocket compass and set it down.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #178 on: March 05, 2015, 03:25:41 AM »
Using words like ergo and QED doesn't make your comments any more convincing to me. :)
They of course could be wrong about the Earth's magnetic field explanation, but if they are wrong about
that, that still doesn't necessarily mean the device doesn't work. They may just not really understand what
is really making it tick. This is all besides the point, because when it comes down to it, any investor who is on
the ball at all will insist on a thorough testing under their own conditions before giving them any money. ;)
All the best...
Well, I suppose it is possible that you were never introduced to formal logic in school, or how a proof works.
They make a claim that defies established experience.  They fail to offer any compelling evidence in favor of their claim.  Ergo they offer nothing to dispute the established experience they wish to defy.  Ergo their claims fail.


Offline Void

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Re: Akula eternal lantern 4
« Reply #179 on: March 05, 2015, 03:48:58 AM »
Well, I suppose it is possible that you were never introduced to formal logic in school, or how a proof works.
They make a claim that defies established experience.  They fail to offer any compelling evidence in favor of their claim.  Ergo they offer nothing to dispute the established experience they wish to defy.  Ergo their claims fail.

Hi MarkE. You are too much mate. ;)
All the best...

 

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