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pomodoro

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« Reply #285 on: July 26, 2014, 03:07:16 AM »
Here is my email, if anyone prefers, so we don't clutter the forum with too much of the preliminaries and keep the Russians a step behind!

SirXPomodoro@gmail.com
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profitis

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« Reply #286 on: July 26, 2014, 08:52:11 AM »
I doubt thers more than a few parts/million O2 in that H2 canister pomodoro.the factory that made it wouldve been forced by regulations to make sure of that.it will almost instantly recombine on contact with our catalysts its not a worry,leaks are enemy number 1.H2 is a highly agile molecule.

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« Reply #287 on: July 26, 2014, 09:01:17 AM »
How did the latest test go pomodoro,give it rest for a few hours before reaching conclusions if it was shorted overnight.your lab has got all the necessesary ingredients and equipment for successful tests,we must be scientificly efficient and use it wise while we can.

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« Reply #288 on: July 26, 2014, 09:06:28 AM »
The brown color on that silver is worrying,is it pure silver straight through?

pomodoro

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« Reply #289 on: July 26, 2014, 09:10:38 AM »
No idea, I'm home for the weekend. Remember I'm using industrial grade hydrogen for now.

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« Reply #290 on: July 26, 2014, 09:19:23 AM »
Any grade H2 canister will be forced by regulations.is that pure or plated silver?where did you get it?

pomodoro

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« Reply #291 on: July 26, 2014, 10:26:14 AM »
It is silver wire for chemical experiments, but have no idea of purity. I did not buy it myself.

profitis

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« Reply #292 on: July 26, 2014, 11:18:33 AM »
We can test it by dissloving a small piece in HNO3 when it comes out of that test.there must b no color change.we are getting closer to our set goal,to measure stable power outage from an gaseous overpotential difference.when we do this in the milliamp range,we make history.

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« Reply #293 on: July 26, 2014, 12:00:30 PM »
I just want to point out that your cathode has only about 1cm epoxy between itself and air pomodoro.air will get in all the way through that wire bundle under the jacket.this is why I always use a single strand bare wire for contacts.I have to be cracksharp with my observation here otherwise scientist critics with sarkeizen-type characters will bash us at the first weakpoint they see (-:

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« Reply #294 on: July 26, 2014, 12:21:18 PM »
I still prefer type 3, but with some pressure sensor simply because constant bubbling introduces other contaminants from the bottle. When I ran gas chromatography labs we needed oxygen traps on the uhp hydrogen because it still contained traces of oxygen and wrecked columns after months of usage.  When I dismantle this gadget 3 I will place a hose on the tap with the open end under water to check for a vacuum or positive pressure.  Another run can have the pressure regulator apply a small positive pressure throughout the run.   Regarding the treated silver, it is definitely a brown color, not grey.
I think that the small positive pressure is the way to go.

pomodoro

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« Reply #295 on: July 26, 2014, 01:15:34 PM »
I just want to point out that your cathode has only about 1cm epoxy between itself and air pomodoro.air will get in all the way through that wire bundle under the jacket.this is why I always use a single strand bare wire for contacts.I have to be cracksharp with my observation here otherwise scientist critics with sarkeizen-type characters will bash us at the first weakpoint they see (-:

Make any comments guys, I will try my best.  These cells are designed to test the principle for a few days at a time. With positive pressure surely any tiny leaks such as the those should be covered right?   When I get back we will see if #3 worked. If not next step is to test the silver and to pressurize  the flask. The only reason I did not do it  permanently with a regulator on the bottle is that the quick fit tap pops off as it can't fit a clip like the yellow ones in the picture. The clip has no neck on the tap connector to press down on. That's why in the pic you see a clamp just above the tap. It is pressing down with force.

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« Reply #296 on: July 26, 2014, 03:36:14 PM »
I agree that the positive pressure should take care of small leaks and prevent infiltration.  I say proceed with the experiments and let's see what they show.

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« Reply #297 on: July 26, 2014, 09:04:34 PM »
Positive pressure is good but we have to be able to monitor it on a guage to make sure its there.if the supply tank has a guage meter exellent.a gadget 1 device can be designed for purging plus static pressure by blocking or tapping exhaust.we would have to be careful that the pressure doesn't puncture a hole through weakest points though.

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« Reply #298 on: July 26, 2014, 09:25:30 PM »
Check out these oneway valves.one of these on the exhaust pipe and under certain level of water would ensure pressure everytime the device is purged.

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« Reply #299 on: July 27, 2014, 08:33:59 AM »
Pomodoro,for the next test please make sure that the palladium is just touching the surface of electrolyte with one corner of that foil,capillary action will do the rest.