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Offline profitis

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« Reply #450 on: August 12, 2014, 10:31:35 AM »
Yes.halt all stirring because it interferes.also skeptics love to blame it.the slowed diffusion rates of ions or gases can work to our advantage in some cases

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« Reply #451 on: August 12, 2014, 04:56:11 PM »
That is a good find.

Yes I was quite surprised myself. The book is " Electrochemistry, The Basics with examples" Christine lefrou.

The slower kinetics for the hydrogen couple on the carbon give it a wider curve, so rest potential is more negative  than that of the Pt. The upward part of the hydrogen couple is not shown on these plots, as they are for deaerated solution.

I think using silver as a cathode was done too early in the piece. Let's see what happens when  the cell is allowed to recharge in a few hours...

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« Reply #452 on: August 12, 2014, 09:50:59 PM »
I think silver was not done too early in the piece pomodoro.I think silver was simply not given sufficient time for resting inbetween.the dual-platinum/O2 experiment wouldve set the record straight for this thread long ago.better late than never

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« Reply #453 on: August 12, 2014, 10:04:27 PM »
As Pomodoro wraps up his experiments what you should really be thinking about is how you can state a hypothesis that they have tested that is relevant to your claims.   Then you can formulate an argument as to how the tests falsified, supported, or generated a null result against your claims.

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« Reply #454 on: August 12, 2014, 10:07:04 PM »
Who said pomodoro is wrapping up experiments @mark E? We are just now getting it right..

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« Reply #455 on: August 12, 2014, 10:12:01 PM »
Who said pomodoro is wrapping up experiments @mark E? We are just now getting it right..
Pomodoro has said so.

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« Reply #456 on: August 12, 2014, 10:15:04 PM »
Before or after the latest results @mark E

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« Reply #457 on: August 12, 2014, 10:44:08 PM »
Profitis, you are perfectly capable of reading the thread.  Pomodoro has written several times now that he intends to wrap things up. 

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« Reply #458 on: August 12, 2014, 10:58:11 PM »
Before or after the latest results @mark E

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« Reply #459 on: August 12, 2014, 11:00:47 PM »
Profitis, if you believe that Pomodoro has changed his mind, then it should be simple enough for you to point to where he has said he has said as much.

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« Reply #460 on: August 12, 2014, 11:05:13 PM »
Be-fore..or af-ter the latest results @mark E..

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« Reply #461 on: August 12, 2014, 11:36:37 PM »
Profitis Pomodoro is going to do as he sees fit, and he has stated his intentions.  You can observe those statements directly in this thread.  You may believe or just hope that he will change his mind from what he has stated as his intentions.  Since you obviously don't have any statement you can point to, why don't you just ask him if he has changed his mind or is reconsidering wrapping up as he has stated is his intent?

When you publicly substitute assumptions for direct observation, it raises questions as to whether you do the same thing in the laboratory.

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« Reply #462 on: August 12, 2014, 11:50:47 PM »
@mark E it is you who is assuming that pomodoro will dissapear after the latest positive results..not me.

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« Reply #463 on: August 13, 2014, 12:00:55 AM »
Why even discuss the theoretical impending dissapearence or re-appearance of pomodoro @mark E..madness man

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« Reply #464 on: August 13, 2014, 01:20:49 AM »
Profitis, If you think that sticking to the facts makes me a "madness man", then so be it.  You might want to consider how your behavior may or may not affect anyone's interest in engaging you.

I have not discussed appearance or disappearance of anyone.  Once more you've pulled some idea out of the blue.  I have noted the fact that Pomodoro has stated his intent to wrap up his experiments.  I have noted that it is in your interest to formulate a hypothesis relevant to your claims that you feel his experiments address.   I have no idea and do not presume to guess whether or not, or for how long Pomodoro might stick around once he is done.   

 

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