Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Plug Heater

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 507167
  • *Total Topics: 15138
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 4
  • *Guests: 13
  • *Total: 17

Author Topic: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%  (Read 296048 times)

Offline rice

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 46
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #480 on: November 20, 2014, 11:48:46 PM »
i don't speak the language.  anyone know what they're saying?  sure looks like they're trying to prove that its looped...  are they saying its looped?

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #480 on: November 20, 2014, 11:48:46 PM »

Offline Spirit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 41
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #481 on: November 21, 2014, 01:06:19 AM »

Offline Spirit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 41
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #482 on: November 21, 2014, 01:50:17 AM »

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #482 on: November 21, 2014, 01:50:17 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline noonespecial

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 278
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #483 on: November 21, 2014, 04:38:41 AM »
Those videos are essentially the same as the John Device.

Offline ARMCORTEX

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 621
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #484 on: November 21, 2014, 08:57:32 AM »
not a single lightbulb was lit I dont understand.

even the reporter seemed unimpressed.

noonespecial: long time no see, hows the spring device coming along, I sometimes have my doubts, we may have over-reacted and assumed things that were not true.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #484 on: November 21, 2014, 08:57:32 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline noonespecial

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 278
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #485 on: November 21, 2014, 06:19:50 PM »

noonespecial: long time no see, hows the spring device coming along, I sometimes have my doubts, we may have over-reacted and assumed things that were not true.


No overunity by traditional standards but there is greater output than to be expected. Given the common efficiency of both the motor and alternator the best systemic efficiency should be in the neighborhood of 40% but I'm close to 80% which is unusual. There are quite a few variable to go through so its taking a while.


Charlie

Offline Spirit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 41
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #486 on: November 21, 2014, 08:08:51 PM »
Those videos are essentially the same as the John Device.

No i think it's more like skinner's principle

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #486 on: November 21, 2014, 08:08:51 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Spirit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 41
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #487 on: November 21, 2014, 08:21:26 PM »
This is what i plan to build using about 100 pounds for the weight.
Any suggestions on what alternator to use?
What small motor to use?
What battery or batteries to use?
What inverter to use?
Also i don't want my battery to overcharge..i think the alternator has something that controls this?

I'm on a budget so i can't be spending too much..

Offline TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13817
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #488 on: November 21, 2014, 08:40:44 PM »

No overunity by traditional standards but there is greater output than to be expected. Given the common efficiency of both the motor and alternator the best systemic efficiency should be in the neighborhood of 40% but I'm close to 80% which is unusual. There are quite a few variable to go through so its taking a while.


Charlie

Do you have specific efficiency figures for the alternator and motor that you are actually using? Because even a short internet search tells me that alternators of 80-85 percent "common" efficiency are not unusual, and motors of 95 percent efficiency are in common use.  So your finding, if it is correct, of being "close to 80 percent" is neither unusual nor particularly special. 0.85 x 0.95 = 0.80 or slightly over, and even if you use not particulary efficient items, .80 x .90 = 0.72, probably within your margin of error for "close to 80 percent."

And if image posters would size their images to be no more than 1024 pixels wide... it would make the images themselves easier to see, and it would not disrupt the page formatting the way outrageously large images do.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #488 on: November 21, 2014, 08:40:44 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Madeo

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 71
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #489 on: November 21, 2014, 08:47:47 PM »
This is what i plan to build using about 100 pounds for the weight.
Any suggestions on what alternator to use?
What small motor to use?
What battery or batteries to use?
What inverter to use?
Also i don't want my battery to overcharge..i think the alternator has something that controls this?

I'm on a budget so i can't be spending too much..


im planning on building this one myself when i get the chance. I would suggest that you stay within the 12v-18v system because you can use lead acid batteries and have a charge controller to automatically maintain a safe charge on the batteries. Charge controllers are cheap on Ebay (the simple ones anyway). I am not certain on the cost of the motors, but i don't see why you can't find cheap ones that are rated at those voltages. If you are thinking of using car alternators as your motor/generator,  I'd highly advise you not to use that.  Those alternators do not have permanent magnets inside. You'd be forced to modify it by tearing it apart and installing magnets yourself which I heard can be a pain in the ass.


Btw, charge controllers are for solar panel setups. For as long as you make sure your output current is DC and filter it with a big capacitor,  it will work just fine.  You can build your own charge controller, but unless you are good at putting electronics stuff together,  i think it's a lot easier just to buy them. The only reason I would build my own is if i'm using voltages outside the 12-18v range.

Offline Spirit

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 41
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #490 on: November 21, 2014, 09:17:38 PM »
ok thanks for the input.

i had forgotten to add the swivel extension on the shaft that connects to the generator so i edited the attached photo above.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #490 on: November 21, 2014, 09:17:38 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline noonespecial

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 278
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #491 on: November 21, 2014, 11:25:37 PM »
Do you have specific efficiency figures for the alternator and motor that you are actually using? Because even a short internet search tells me that alternators of 80-85 percent "common" efficiency are not unusual, and motors of 95 percent efficiency are in common use.  So your finding, if it is correct, of being "close to 80 percent" is neither unusual nor particularly special. 0.85 x 0.95 = 0.80 or slightly over, and even if you use not particulary efficient items, .80 x .90 = 0.72, probably within your margin of error for "close to 80 percent."

And if image posters would size their images to be no more than 1024 pixels wide... it would make the images themselves easier to see, and it would not disrupt the page formatting the way outrageously large images do.


There may be some newer versions or PMA's that run at higher efficiencies but a garden variety automotive alternator will typically peak at 60% and is a function of speed. The RPM I'm running at is down around 30%-40%:


http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/96051/what-makes-automotive-alternators-so-inneficient-relative-to-other-applications


Plus I also have frictional losses with bearings that I'm not even including.

Offline noonespecial

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 278
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #492 on: November 21, 2014, 11:27:23 PM »
No i think it's more like skinner's principle


Skinner uses an upper lever mechanism to move the lower arm. I didn't see any upper arm in the videos?

Offline ARMCORTEX

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 621
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #493 on: November 22, 2014, 01:35:13 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=122I1e3y8ic&list=UUpWUFx1jGHLKoVECzc4jzEQ

Take a look at this charlie, a spring device of my own design.


Offline Madeo

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 71
Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #494 on: November 22, 2014, 02:27:32 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=122I1e3y8ic&list=UUpWUFx1jGHLKoVECzc4jzEQ

Take a look at this charlie, a spring device of my own design.


how will you attach a generator with that design ??

 

OneLink