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Author Topic: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%  (Read 411517 times)

Offline i_ron

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #330 on: June 27, 2014, 08:29:40 PM »
Second video attached




Good observations as usual Luc, I like where the 'stationary' weight rises when he turns the top weight


Ron

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #331 on: June 27, 2014, 09:44:39 PM »


I like where the 'stationary' weight rises when he turns the top weight


Ron

I actually didn't notice that. I guess it's not really rising but more coming forward with the mid plate angle changing.

Luc

Offline ramset

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #332 on: June 27, 2014, 11:00:36 PM »
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but I don't think I can afford to make another set :-[
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Perhaps setup a Paypal for this ?
While it will not be a fortune I can send some funds .

Thx
Chet

Offline Just..Sayin..

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #333 on: June 28, 2014, 12:18:00 AM »
Where in this contraption is the gravity component?

There is no gravity component, it is harnessing centrifugal force, not gravity.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #334 on: June 28, 2014, 12:48:03 AM »
There is no gravity component, it is harnessing centrifugal force not gravity.


If you take a circular track that a steel ball can run around, then create a wobble of that track, the steel ball will continualy go around until you stop that wobble, what is causing the ball to go around?


Answer, gravity, why? because the wobble changed the relation of the center of gravity with that mass. It does not matter how much that steel ball weighs, what matters is how much force is needed to create the wobble, vola.


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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #335 on: June 28, 2014, 12:58:50 AM »
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but I don't think I can afford to make another set :-[
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Perhaps setup a Paypal for this ?
While it will not be a fortune I can send some funds .

Thx
Chet

Thanks Chet, that's very kind of you to offer.

Let me think about it as I don't like to take other peoples money for something I no longer understand how it works.
It looked quite simple at first but the more I've been testing the effects the less I know what's going on ???
I'm sure I'm not the only one, there are many testing this.

After the weekend I'll get back to you if I think it's worth putting more into it.

Kind regards

Luc

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #336 on: June 28, 2014, 01:17:40 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC09-tiSka6krzkxb2YJKIMw

This device would be better.

Easier and mor powerful.

Offline i_ron

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #337 on: June 28, 2014, 01:44:07 AM »
I actually didn't notice that. I guess it's not really rising but more coming forward with the mid plate angle changing.

Luc


Only partially correct Luc, the bottom is not free to rotate as it is locked by the three other stationary weights. When he rotates the upper weight forward he is changing the angle of the bottom weight plate causing the visible rise of the weight.  Note when he releases the upper weight the bottom weigh pulls the upper weight back to its normal run position.


What this is showing is the 'rod' is free not only to tilt in and out but tilt ahead and back, so it does require a ball or Cardan joint at the bottom. Where this is, is hard to say as the rod has no bend but is straight all the way down to the top of the bottom support works  and pivots around this point the sprocket below this
remains horizontally stable with no tilt to match the rod. 



Ron








Offline shylo

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #338 on: June 28, 2014, 03:01:08 AM »
The long input arm that goes down to the  distribution plate , moves orbital, but is locked,It gives the illusion that it is rotating. It's locked around 90 degrees
Lock the input so it's 90 off  the bottom.
Still trying.....artv

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #339 on: June 28, 2014, 06:48:23 AM »
They are like 4 big wobbling plates out of phase.

Synchronized wobbling plate.

Of course something on top, or bottom, has the play for the tilt, same effect.

The 4 gears meet into one and support eachother via that link, so that they can counteract the load killing the inertia.


Offline havuhung

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #340 on: June 28, 2014, 07:14:54 AM »
Hi All,
on youtube there is a video clip of  Dave Q member  Energetic Forum share, explain the working principle of the  Skinner machine 1939... 
                   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3lpFvuzps&feature=youtu.be

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #341 on: June 28, 2014, 08:01:32 AM »
That is just a glorious video, the way the stick is used as lever was hidden from us.

This is definitly not a hoax.

Glory to Skinner.

The theory of ellipse drive was debunked and i_ron was right ?

I was completly misled I admit, my ellipse drive was quite unfit and inferior to this, maybe with modifications.








Offline ARMCORTEX

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #342 on: June 28, 2014, 08:25:43 AM »
Hey I proposed an overunity idea based on Mikhail Dimitriev's work.

With enough reverse engineering an ellipse drive would work...Never blame me.

Never point the finger @ me.

This is all redirected to the people who misled me and people who didnt make a good video.

You ask ellipse, I give it.

I never deny or accept anything I dont care, I accept anything logical, If I understand meaning of phrase or see a video.

Now it is 100% clear that the bottom part is as shown here is solved, new question why is top part overly complex.




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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #343 on: June 28, 2014, 01:15:13 PM »
This is the bottom drive C, please note that the weights are in sync.


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Mike 8)

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #344 on: June 28, 2014, 01:50:21 PM »
For those that can't get their head around the shifting center of gravity relationship, here is a drawing


Regards


Mike 8)