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TheCell

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 07:55:39 PM »
At 0:27 regarding one of the four columns :the big short mass is directly mounted on its driving plate, the axle of the longer mass can freely rotate within this plate, and rotates only because of its centrifugal force.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2014, 08:28:25 PM »
Can somebody please locate the address of this William F. Skinner from Miami. Florida
in an old telephone book or address book ?

Maybe his children or descendants still live there and know what happened to this machine ?
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Hi Stefan,

Some patent search revealed he got at least 2 granted patents of the era but the patents are not connected in any way to the gravity setup shown in the video. It also turns out from one of the patents that there existed the Skinner Manufacturing Co., Inc., Miami, Florida,  this may also help to locate him.

These are his patents I found:
US2199322 Method and means for reconditioning dry cell batteries, issued April 30, 1940
US2477210 Refrigerator drinking water cooler, issued July 26, 1949

I think member Chet here is also from Florida?

Gyula

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2014, 09:39:43 PM »
Okay, from the patents he seems to have a company:

William F. Skinner Manufacturing Co. Inc. Miami Florida.

But I don´t find the address.

Does anyone from the USA know, how to find old addresses of companies
from the 1950s time frame ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2014, 09:46:10 PM »
Okay, from the patents he seems to have a company:

William F. Skinner Manufacturing Co. Inc. Miami Florida.

But I don´t find the address.

Does anyone from the USA know, how to find old addresses of companies
from the 1950s time frame ?
Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
If there are Thomas Registers that go back that far you might find it.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2014, 10:26:08 PM »
Thank you, Stefan, for your research, DreamThinkBuild for your welcome, and you are right, the upper part of the device is providing high leverage to the second stage. On the second stage also, the shorter (upper) weight it seems to be "the first" which is starting to rotate, dragging after it the second one, heavier (0.30' on the movie).




Yes, you are right, it is a 2 stage machine.
The upper part just makes only the leverage to tilt these rods back and forth
and the lower second stage then makes the tumbling of the weights.
At the bpttom of the machine is a gear that couples the rotation out
for the load.

Very intersting machine.
I guess the upper part could somehow replaced by a Milkovic pendulum
device to further reduce the input power requirements.

Regards, Stefan.

P.S: have not found yet his old company address, maybe someone else can help and find
this ? WOuld be great if this machine would be recovered still from an old shed or somewhere...
and could be made to rework !

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2014, 11:22:17 PM »
For better analysis I downloaded the the Video
in the highest available 480p resolution and placed it here.

I hope this is okay with British Pathe.


http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/0YPYT6QT/Gravity-Powe-Skinner-1939.mp4_links

You can just use one download server from this list.
Usually ZippyShare is pretty good without too much ads..

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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2014, 11:53:04 PM »
The file is infected.
Avira detects Adware.Gen2 virus.

Quote from: hartiberlin
You can just use one download server from this list.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2014, 11:08:38 AM by gri »

gyulasun

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2014, 12:28:26 AM »
The file is infected.
Avira detects Adware.Gen2 virus.

It is not the file which is infected but some site wants to force you to download an exe file with the same name this video file has but adds an  .exe extension to it. I found such at for instance SendMyWay if you click on the Free download: there the Win32/InstalleRex unwanted application would download first...  When you choose the Create a Download link instead of the Free download  then you have to wait for a certain time (I did not wait)
I did not find such at Zippyshare (did not go through all the places offered) .

Gyula

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2014, 12:47:25 AM »
Use Adblock Edge in Your Firefox browser, then you will see no ads there...

Yes, some of these downloadservers use sometimes bad ad providers
which try to install add bars or tool bars or something like this...

So avoid that by using ZippyShare with an Adblocker in your browser.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2014, 04:30:31 AM »
This kind of looks like an application of something that I used to do as a kid. I would take a chair and spin it using my hand... imagine holding the top corner of the back and then balancing the chair on the leg (front leg, opposite side). I used to get it spinning by letting the weight of the chair 'fall'. It used to drive my mother nuts. You can get it spinning very quickly, by moving your hand in a circle. Just let it 'fall' and it 'seems' that there is very little energy being expended to do so. Anyway, I suspect that it's basically a flywheel effect... but I've never really thought about laying out the numbers.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2014, 08:10:07 AM »
Hi All,
Considering the video clip, the machine can really power efficient. 8)

Thank a lot.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2014, 09:18:54 AM »
   What strikes me in these images is the similarity with the movement of the planets.
we rotating masses on the non-aligned axes.
it looks like the planets and their satellites.

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2014, 09:53:44 AM »
   What strikes me in these images is the similarity with the movement of the planets.
we rotating masses on the non-aligned axes.
it looks like the planets and their satellites.
Hi quartz,
The bottom of the machine, the left side has a horizontal axis, the outer end of its rotation by transmission belt flat on a intermediate shaft mounted near the roof of the factory. The shaft has a gear system the bottom of the machine, its mechanical connection to the pair of dumbbells and rotate the shaft to tilt you see. . .           ;)

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Re: 1939 Gravity Power - multiply power by 1200%
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2014, 10:14:58 AM »
Hi All,
Those mechanical design and built a great machine!