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Title: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Neo-X on May 17, 2014, 08:35:52 AM
I found this pdf document saying someone has built tpu using ferrite core. Is this true? I need more information about this.
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Jeg on May 17, 2014, 03:31:02 PM
Thanks for the pdf Neo-X. I have seen in many designs this half core isolation with paper, but i don't know why. I hope that someone knows and will explain this. :)
Perhaps is something about saturation and high power inputs. With low signals, i noticed a stronger output at the second half when there is no isolation between them.
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: FatBird on May 18, 2014, 03:24:15 AM
I wonder where a person could buy a Core like that?


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Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Pirate88179 on May 18, 2014, 06:22:01 AM
I wonder where a person could buy a Core like that?


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A few years ago, I received six 3-3/8" x 1" thick 10,000 permeability ferrite toroids as free samples.  These are the ones we used to replicate the Jeanna Circuit Joule Thief.  They are not available any more and, the first ones that Jeanna got were from a surplus place that, of course, sold out of them.  You can still buy them but they are about $50 USD each.

Bill
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Qwert on May 19, 2014, 12:27:18 PM
I found this pdf document saying someone has built tpu using ferrite core. Is this true? I need more information about this.

Ask the culprit: Stivep (Wesley). The pdf cites Wesley as a co-author of that experiment:
http://www.overunity.com/profile/stivep.22721/#.U3naLyjxFio
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Paul-R on May 20, 2014, 03:58:31 PM
I wonder where a person could buy a Core like that?
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What about these?
http://www.micrometals.com/parts_index.html


Also, what about a toroid from a regular toroidal power supply transformer?
http://damencnc.com/en/components/electronic-parts/power-supplies/486 (http://damencnc.com/en/components/electronic-parts/power-supplies/486)

They don't say what material it is made of.
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: odumy on December 02, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Osiakosia on December 08, 2014, 09:08:51 AM
I found this pdf document saying someone has built tpu using ferrite core. Is this true? I need more information about this.

Hi Neo-X ,
The ferite , that Ar┼źnas used was not toroidal shape ferite , but ferite from old TV tube .
So if you want to use another type of ferites the frequency rage will be different then in this document .

Osiakosia
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: ramset on December 08, 2014, 10:25:40 AM
Odumy


Thank you for sharing the patent ,any more info would be great.


Thx
Chet
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Bruce_TPU on December 08, 2014, 05:38:44 PM
It is ROUND like a TPU but it is NOT a TPU.  LOL

Sorry... 

But I will throw you all a bone...

The REAL TPU does indeed have iron in it. 

Cheers,

Bruce
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: e2matrix on December 08, 2014, 05:56:28 PM
Inventor's web site for the patent odumy uploaded:  http://the-molina-institute.org/     
Very interesting site and info.   Look at his "A Solution for to the Energy Crisis and Global Warming" pdf. 
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: MileHigh on December 09, 2014, 06:50:50 AM
Well Bruce, I am going to assume that you don't have full edit control over all three currently showing TPU threads.  When you delete comments like that you are only showing your own weakness.

I asked you were you are in your work.  The reality is that Nature and logic and science are all against you, you are up against all of that.  Nor have you shown any positive results.  Then I stated that there is no such thing as "Earth magnetic waves."  That is the reality on the ground as we speak right now and fantasizing that they exist will not make them magically appear.  SM was a fraud and you are chasing after a phantom.

You claim that "I don't do experiments" and that's true.  However, I did lots of experiments in the past.  I made an estimate a while back that I have something like 4500 hours of bench time.

Just "doing experiments" doesn't necessarily give someone credibility either.  There are lots of GIGO experiments on YouTube. 

You ultimately hurt yourself when you wield the axe of censorship.

MileHigh
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Osiakosia on December 09, 2014, 08:34:39 AM
I found this pdf document saying someone has built tpu using ferrite core. Is this true? I need more information about this.
The main experiments were maid onthis shape of ferite .

Osiakosia
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Bruce_TPU on December 09, 2014, 04:06:14 PM
Well Bruce, I am going to assume that you don't have full edit control over all three currently showing TPU threads.  When you delete comments like that you are only showing your own weakness.

I asked you were you are in your work.  The reality is that Nature and logic and science are all against you, you are up against all of that.  Nor have you shown any positive results.  Then I stated that there is no such thing as "Earth magnetic waves."  That is the reality on the ground as we speak right now and fantasizing that they exist will not make them magically appear.  SM was a fraud and you are chasing after a phantom.

You claim that "I don't do experiments" and that's true.  However, I did lots of experiments in the past.  I made an estimate a while back that I have something like 4500 hours of bench time.

Just "doing experiments" doesn't necessarily give someone credibility either.  There are lots of GIGO experiments on YouTube. 

You ultimately hurt yourself when you wield the axe of censorship.

MileHigh


I have banned you from my thread Mile High.  I have NOTHING to say to you, ever.  You are full of HOT air and NEVER build anything nor experiment.  You are a talking head, a PC hero.  Sorry, just how I see you.  ;)   So....  I will NOT be answering your questions now, or ever.  lol


Have a great day! 


Bruce
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: MileHigh on December 09, 2014, 04:43:15 PM
Bruce:

Do as you wish. I am not making any claims but I have built things and I have experimented.  Right now you are the talking head.  You are like a late-night infomercial.  Nothing you do is real until the time arrives where you actually show something that works.  That is what it is all about.  It would appear that you have been at this for several years but you don't have anything to show for it.

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I will NOT be answering your questions now, or ever.

Stick your head in the sand for now.  But when you come up for air,the outstanding question from everyone is "Does it work and can you do a credible demonstration proving that it works?"

Eventually you are going to answer that question Bruce.

MileHigh
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Bruce_TPU on December 09, 2014, 04:46:24 PM
Bruce:

Do as you wish. I am not making any claims but I have built things and I have experimented.  Right now you are the talking head.  You are like a late-night infomercial.  Nothing you do is real until the time arrives where you actually show something that works.  That is what it is all about.  It would appear that you have been at this for several years but you don't have anything to show for it.

Stick your head in the sand for now.  But when you come up for air,the outstanding question from everyone is "Does it work and can you do a credible demonstration proving that it works?"

Eventually you are going to answer that question Bruce.

MileHigh


Hahaha!  I'm counting on it!    ;D 8)
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: ballbag on December 09, 2014, 04:59:39 PM
OK guys.  Instead of fighting, has anyone actually tried the configuration in the original PDF from this thread? 
Would be interested to see results.
I would love to give it a try, but don't have a spectrum analyser.  I only have one signal generator.  I guess two are essential, but the spectrum analyser you could probably do without as you could just tune it carefully with the sig gens and watch the output?
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: MileHigh on December 09, 2014, 05:01:47 PM
I wish you would get the last laugh because it would "save the world."  But unfortunately you are not going to get the last laugh.

If I can ask you one thing, it would be to stop the impish little teasers and the silly quizzes.  If you have something to say about what you are doing, then just say it.

You are just playing with a "funky nonsensical transformer" Bruce.  Transformers are as dead as a proverbial doornail.  They can't magically output more power than you put into them because of some "secret sauce" or because of a fantasy belief in "magnetic waves from the Earth."  Have you noticed what happened with the QEG?  It's a shame that it's apparently going to take you something like eight years to figure all of this out for yourself but if that's what you enjoy doing then just keep at it.
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: MileHigh on December 09, 2014, 05:14:39 PM
OK guys.  Instead of fighting, has anyone actually tried the configuration in the original PDF from this thread? 
Would be interested to see results.
I would love to give it a try, but don't have a spectrum analyser.  I only have one signal generator.  I guess two are essential, but the spectrum analyser you could probably do without as you could just tune it carefully with the sig gens and watch the output?

The pdf shows a toroidal transformer with a crippled core.  They state "The results from the prototype indicate that the two 5-watt inputs from the signal generators give an output power of anything up to one kilowatt.  As the inputs are ten  watts between them, the device has a Coefficient of Performance of anything up to 100 and so could be made to power itself very easily indeed, by providing voltage-stabilised, isolated power inputs for the two signal generators driving the device. "

Do you really think that you can connect two signal generators up to a toroidal transformer and then drive a 1000 watt load with the output winding?  This is one in an endless string of claims where people build a replication and then nothing special happens.  Why people make silly pdfs like this I don't know.
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Bruce_TPU on December 10, 2014, 12:19:18 AM
I wish you would get the last laugh because it would "save the world."  But unfortunately you are not going to get the last laugh.

If I can ask you one thing, it would be to stop the impish little teasers and the silly quizzes.  If you have something to say about what you are doing, then just say it.

You are just playing with a "funky nonsensical transformer" Bruce.  Transformers are as dead as a proverbial doornail.  They can't magically output more power than you put into them because of some "secret sauce" or because of a fantasy belief in "magnetic waves from the Earth."  Have you noticed what happened with the QEG?  It's a shame that it's apparently going to take you something like eight years to figure all of this out for yourself but if that's what you enjoy doing then just keep at it.

As always you make the mother of assumptions!  Ha!  But hey if you wish to continue your endless dribble for another 8 years, then hey...

And why would I tell YOU anything?  Hmm....okay I wouldn't!   

Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: MileHigh on December 10, 2014, 12:29:20 AM
As always you make the mother of assumptions!  Ha!  But hey if you wish to continue your endless dribble for another 8 years, then hey...

And why would I tell YOU anything?  Hmm....okay I wouldn't!

Forget about playing the "bad boy" Bruce.  When you do that you are just being a pretentious poseur.  Do you have something of substance to offer after 7+ years of TPU experimentation?  What about stringing the wire back and forth in your back yard to find the "acoustic resonance," did that do anything for you?  Do you have a TPU that can output more power than you put into it?

That's what people want to know.  They are not interested in chess moves where you attempt to be witty and dismissive of everything I say.  We are not interested in amateur trash talk, we are interested in knowing what your results are.
Title: Re: TPU successfull replicaction? COP=10 1kw torroid
Post by: Bruce_TPU on December 10, 2014, 05:21:13 AM
Forget about playing the "bad boy" Bruce.  When you do that you are just being a pretentious poseur.  Do you have something of substance to offer after 7+ years of TPU experimentation?  What about stringing the wire back and forth in your back yard to find the "acoustic resonance," did that do anything for you?  Do you have a TPU that can output more power than you put into it?

That's what people want to know.  They are not interested in chess moves where you attempt to be witty and dismissive of everything I say.  We are not interested in amateur trash talk, we are interested in knowing what your results are.

YOU will never know!   ;)

Goad all that you want...lol.

What part of, "I don't want to dialogue with you" don't you understand?   Are you that dense?  Why are you and your buddies still tolerated on this forum?

Sleep well, mumbling to yourself, "it's impossible,  it's impossible",  as you placate your own mind. 

I came looking for a chemist,  and found that and your hot air.  I asked for a chemist or someone with chemistry experience.   You are neither.   So instead of engaging in dialogue with someone who never wants to dialogue with you or the other one, you then are harassing a member.  And perhaps I shall have you put on read mode only for the next 6 months.

So, fo the final time, PLEASE do not have dialogue with me.  Thank you.