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Author Topic: Mobius Coil used in TPU?  (Read 12580 times)

Offline tishatang

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Mobius Coil used in TPU?
« on: August 31, 2006, 03:04:57 AM »
Hi alll,

A few days ago my son came to visit me on his way to New York.  I helped him make some mobius coils. 


These coils produce scalar waves when the magnetic fields collide.

We used 16 guage wire off a large inductor I had which was used in cross-over speaker system.  The air coil weighed 1 lb 5 onces.
My son unrolled more than half of the inductor to make the mobius coil which I estimate 100 ft of length before folding it twice as in the instructions linked above.

When finished he wrapped it with electrical tape and playing around with it hooked a 555 timer circuit to it and started snapping the power off and on.  He could feel the energy in his hands and up his arm as it turned on.

I thought he was getting some sort of electrical shock and then he handed it to me.  As he turned it on, I could feel it tug slightly in my hand.  No electrical shock, but definitely an enertial reaction.   The timer put out just 4 volts at about 32k hertz.

Unfortunately, I had to put my son on the plane early next morning and he took the coil and the timer with him.
I had another 555 timer that put out 4 volts at 36k hertz.  I could not get any reaction like the mobius coil with all the other coils in the house including another identical inductor to the one we used for wire.

I am thinking Steven uses a scalar winding something like this one.  Then if you have another one pulsing in the opposite direction, you would have even more scalar energy released.  The theory says scalar waves are produced when magnetic fields collide.  If so, then the mobius coil produces its own scalar wave and then if you have another one next to it, their mutual fields would collide enhancing the effect.

Didn't Steven hint at rotating the bottom half in the opposite direction?   The answer is scalar waves are poduced and that is what is causing the enertial reaction when you hold the device?


Offline supersam

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Re: Mobius Coil used in TPU?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 07:48:05 PM »

i think most definately that mobius coils have something to do with the smd.  however if you take the circle to another dimention you come up with the sphere.  to best utilize any of this technology we are going to have to get out of the two dimentional thought plane and start looking at a true three dimentional field and the harmonics and mathmatics of pi and phi.  spheres and all of physics,biology and the universe, including mathmatics and mass itself runs on spheres! we are not flat! to try to understand the opportunities we have to get off the circle and into the sphere! until we do i think we will come up with alot of great ideas in two dimmensions that just work.   lets get out of the box so to speak.

thanks sam


Offline shuzammy

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Re: Mobius Coil used in TPU?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 04:32:06 PM »
Alas, it appears your intuitive guess (over eight months ago) has been finally vindicated by Otto in his latest post elsewhere...

My question of Otto is what ever happened with the Rodin coil tests?

Offline otto

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Re: Mobius Coil used in TPU?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 06:24:13 PM »
Hello all,

yes, we have 2 Mobius "coils" in our TPU. 1 tornado is in CW and the other in CCW direction.

Just google Mobius band and look. You will first see a band and you dont understand whats going on. Then imagine a point which is going round and round this band.

Of course, we have a lamp wire and not a band but its the same. Look at the Sweet drawing and how the "collectors" are connected. Just 1 turn.


the link you showed us is ok but muuuuch to complicate for our TPUs.

I have only a 1 turn lamp wire for my collectors and this is maybe I see it much clearer.


My Rodin coil tests are good and finnished. My Rodin coil collector is waiting because Im working on my 6" TPU.
What I can say about this Rodin coil is that it will be a very dangerous job to built and test a TPU with such collectors.
The point is that such collectors have such a incredible magnetic field that I never saw before. When pulsed, my magnetic field over the TPU was over 1 ft. = 30cm high!!! And this was with a not good TPU. Only controls connected in Tesla patent way for a rotating magnetic field and the Rodin coils collectors.

With such a TPU I would NEVER use my scope to see the signals. Too dangerous for the scope.


Offline Pontifex

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Re: Mobius Coil used in TPU?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 10:48:50 PM »
Mobius capacitor:

An electric element, utilizing a capacitive enclosure of a mobius strip and the spacial phenomenon thereof, to measure voltage and phase differences of input signals or to act as a filter to attenuate current flow of a resonant frequency and the harmonics of that frequency while passing intermediate frequencies.

A device called a M?bius resistor is an electronic circuit element which has the property of cancelling its own inductive reactance. Nikola Tesla patented similar technology in the early 1900s: U.S. Patent 512,340

Can anybody confirm that steven marks used mobius coils?

Greetz, Pontifex