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truesearch

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US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« on: May 15, 2014, 04:22:33 PM »
It appears like the US Air Force is terminating the HAARP program. http://beta.slashdot.org/story/202059

SeaMonkey

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2014, 09:59:59 PM »
For certain ionospheric manipulations the HAARP Facility at
Gakona, Alaska is no longer needed.  It has been very
useful for determining what is possible within the realm
of weather/climate control in conjunction with the
Persistent Contrail Program.

Other means of accomplishing what HAARP is able to
do have been employed.  Satellite beams are much
more precise and are able to trigger well controlled
local events such as lightning strikes, wind shear,
tornadoes and torrential downpours of precipitation
in addition to "steering" weather systems.

TinselKoala

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2014, 10:21:18 PM »
(dons tinfoil hat)

That's what I thought too. The only reason that such a facility would be closed is if there is something bigger,  more powerful and much more secret tucked away somewhere that can do the same jobs, only better.

(removes hat)

Or it just didn't work out like they thought, was too expensive and sucked up too much power to be kept going.

 :-X

MarkE

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2014, 11:16:55 PM »
For certain ionospheric manipulations the HAARP Facility at
Gakona, Alaska is no longer needed.  It has been very
useful for determining what is possible within the realm
of weather/climate control in conjunction with the
Persistent Contrail Program.

Other means of accomplishing what HAARP is able to
do have been employed.  Satellite beams are much
more precise and are able to trigger well controlled
local events such as lightning strikes, wind shear,
tornadoes and torrential downpours of precipitation
in addition to "steering" weather systems.
You may be interested in the idea that advanced weather control is now the province of butterfly sized drones coordinated by massive supercomputers that are capable of modeling and manipulating our hugely chaotic weather systems.  You might suppose that bee kill-off was a necessary step to reduce uncontrolled interference.  You might suppose that inducing drought and severe weather scares the population into accepting carbon taxes and giant desalination plants that benefit the super wealthy PTB.   You might consider that supplying water through these new desalination plants will give the PTB even more convenient ways to manage the population down to target levels than planes spreading chemicals.



I don't have a tin foil hat, so I am not able to join in the fun.

SeaMonkey

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2014, 02:10:56 AM »
Aye, those are all very definite possibilities.

TPTB who pull the strings (The Hidden Hand) have
thought of every conceivable means of carrying
out their AGENDA and have several layers of
plans to accommodate ever changing conditions.

Not that they themselves have done all of this, but
their well compensated think-tanks and research
facilities have devised the methodologies.

They're not burdened by any concerns regarding
death and destruction or the welfare of the
common folk.

Quote from: TinKoa
Or it just didn't work out like they thought, was too expensive and sucked up too much power to be kept going.

In some cases the results exceeded their expectations
but in others certain embellishments were called for.
It's now a world-wide system and there are competitors.

Tightly concentrated (collimated) directed beams from
on high offer the best precision and control.

Farmhand

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2014, 04:42:10 AM »
I think from memory it was shown that a tin foil hat is actually worse than not wearing one as far as common RF goes.

found it.

Link.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09/tin-foil-hats-actually-make-it-easier-for-the-government-to-track-your-thoughts/262998/

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The helmets shielded their wearers from radio waves over most of the tested spectrum (YouTube user Mrfixitrick likewise demonstrates the blocking power of his foil toque against his wireless modem) but, surprisingly, amplified certain frequencies: those in the 2.6 Ghz ( allocated for mobile communications and broadcast satellites) and 1.2 Ghz (allocated for aeronautical radionavigation and space-to-Earth and space-to-space satellites) bands.

While the MIT guys' tongue-in-cheek conclusion -- "the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC" -- maybe goes a few steps too far, their study at least shows that foil helmets fail at, and even counteract, their intended purpose. That, or the students are aliens who fabricated these results in an effort to get you to take your perfectly functional helmet off.

ha-ha Who should we believe the M.I.T. students or the guys wearing the tin foil hats ?

I'm confused, maybe I should take my tin hat off.  ;)

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MarkE

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2014, 05:13:12 AM »
I think from memory it was shown that a tin foil hat is actually worse than not wearing one as far as common RF goes.

found it.

Link.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09/tin-foil-hats-actually-make-it-easier-for-the-government-to-track-your-thoughts/262998/

ha-ha Who should we believe the M.I.T. students or the guys wearing the tin foil hats ?

I'm confused, maybe I should take my tin hat off.  ;)

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There are those who will tell you that is part of a misinformation campaign.    They will tell you properly designed helmet made with multiple layers of different materials protects over a wide range of frequencies.  They will tell you that government has fought back by paying off clothing vendors to insert radio receiver threads in clothing.

Farmhand

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2014, 05:58:42 AM »
Well then maybe the best way to counter any particular frequency would be build a high tech helmet to detect it and generate an out of phase cancelling signal or something. That'll stop em.  :P

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SeaMonkey

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2014, 07:54:27 AM »
Funny you should mention that FarmHand.

Some of the first active electronics countermeasures equipments
we had aboard ship in the Navy in the mid '60s were based upon
that principle.  Traveling Wave Tubes were used with extreme
bandwidth to simplify tuning procedures and response capabilities.

The stuff used now is so good that the old stuff seems stone age...

MarkE

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2014, 08:51:41 AM »
Well then maybe the best way to counter any particular frequency would be build a high tech helmet to detect it and generate an out of phase cancelling signal or something. That'll stop em.  :P

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If someone were to direct a radio beacon at a target they can measure the amount of energy that is returned as well as its timing to see if they are achieving what they want.  You don't want to reveal yourself by presenting a signature that looks any different than someone else's if they know you are there or empty space if they don't know you are there or you are Keenu Reeves.  Whatever you do, do not buy all the supplies you need at the same place or the same time.  Don't use your supermarket club card when buying aluminum foil or transparent tape.   Don't explain to your neighbor why you are grinding up charcoal briquets and mixing them with epoxy and packing the paste in Kevlar.

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MarkE

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2014, 12:44:59 AM »
This is what they call their smoking gun:  http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf

Bob Smith

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2014, 01:15:28 AM »
Would HAARP be necessary if it were possible to coordinate the frequencies broadcast by data transmission towers from a central location?

SeaMonkey

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2014, 01:25:52 AM »
No, HAARP would not be necessary with such coordination
and Yes, it is being done.  The technology necessary to
time synchronize each cycle of transmitted Radio Frequency
Energy has been in use since the early '60s.

Bob Smith

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Re: US Air Force Prepares to Dismantle HAARP
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2014, 02:24:13 AM »
No, HAARP would not be necessary with such coordination
and Yes, it is being done.  The technology necessary to
time synchronize each cycle of transmitted Radio Frequency
Energy has been in use since the early '60s.
Thanks SeaMonkey. That's been my sense as well. All the past hullabaloo about HAARP was a great distraction from the emerging global net of towers and what could be accomplished through their coordinated deployment.

I don't know if question belongs here, but thought I'd throw it out --
What can we do to counteract the effects of EMFs from these centrally controllable EMF-generating towers, to neutralize their harmful impact on our health and households?  I've seen lots of pendants and bracelets, but I'm sure there are better things.

For example, I watched a recent interview with Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt, probably the world's leading Lyme disease expert. Klinghardt maintains that these EMFs stimulate the growth of parasitic organisms in our bodies (such as Lyme and their co-infecting parasites) and impede the body's natural healing/detoxing mechanisms.  I'd sure love to know how we can counteract this EMF nonsense in my own home.
Bob