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Author Topic: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner  (Read 27619 times)

Offline antimony

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2016, 05:48:44 PM »
Did anyone tried to make a replication of these patents?
I try to gather information about the Benitez generator, and I'm trying to find people that have made some sort of replica based on Benitez patents, but I have yet to find any.

I am especially interested in a old school switching setup.

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2016, 06:33:26 PM »
Did anyone tried to make a replication of these patents?
I try to gather information about the Benitez generator, and I'm trying to find people that have made some sort of replica based on Benitez patents, but I have yet to find any.

I am especially interested in a old school switching setup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwiQGxkXC9U

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2016, 06:50:02 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwiQGxkXC9U




I did that with a joule thief to one end of a capacitor the other grounded back through
A secondary (much larger) torroid with a coupled transformer coil of its' own to power
  a string of led's. After 13 seconds of all 13 (+1) led's lighting up, it blew up the 600v, .2F cap
and not the little "pfft" where the end breaches,
but exploded, splitting the casing and flinging white shit everywhere


Tried without the cap and had not much success, but that could have been
The material of the second torroid.
Either way there IS something there,
It's basically a split-full-wave rectifier
You harness the field going one way, then harness it back the other way.


There's two ways to look at it.
You can view it as cycling back a % of your energy each cycle, which is added to the next cycle
Or you can look at it as "loosing" a % of something THIS cycle.
In either viewpoint the output coil goes into hysteresis simultaneously  having both maximum losses
and maximum output.
These losses however, create an progressive asymmetrical waveform, which increases in magnitude each cycle in a process called "constructive interference". Wherein a portion of the increasing field that did not get converted into electrical energy and pass through the diode, is then converted into an increase in intensity of the decreasing field, and so on.
In and ideal transformer, this increase in energy would be exponential.


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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2016, 06:50:02 PM »
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Offline shylo

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2016, 11:14:14 PM »
Smokey quote

"You harness the field going one way, then harness it back the other way."

You harness them both at the same time.
artv

Offline FatBird

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2016, 04:04:31 PM »
When I do a search for Patent 17811 it says No Such Patent.

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2016, 04:04:31 PM »
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Offline Paul-R

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2016, 04:50:45 PM »
When I do a search for Patent 17811 it says No Such Patent.

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It seems tobe an old numbering system.

As a.king21 says in post 5, here it is:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Patents/Benitez/GB191417811A.pdf

Offline Jeg

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2016, 12:31:13 PM »
Smokey quote

"You harness the field going one way, then harness it back the other way."

You harness them both at the same time.
artv

Without a tap in the middle part of the coil, secondary with diodes like that, behaves like a plain metal acting as a capacitor plate for dielectric induction only. No current flows inside there.

ps. By the way. The numbers as those are indicated in my drawing, are the exact numbers as those are being described in the patent. Just for making it simpler in understanding .

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2016, 12:31:13 PM »
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Offline antimony

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2016, 05:10:23 PM »
Hi guys.  I am making a commutator, like the one in Benitez first patent, and it has been fun, it have been a very rewarding project until now when i am close to being done with it.
I have finished about 90% of it, but i can't figure out how I should attach the copper sheet metal that i have cut out.
First i was thinking about fastening them with screws, but i don't think that's a good idea.
I am using screws for brushes, so I'm afraid that they will get hooked on the copper if it doesn't lay flush with the wooden rod.

Do anyone have any thoughts they would like to share?

Offline Jeg

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2016, 06:28:58 PM »
Hi guys.  I am making a commutator, like the one in Benitez first patent, and it has been fun, it have been a very rewarding project until now when i am close to being done with it.
I have finished about 90% of it, but i can't figure out how I should attach the copper sheet metal that i have cut out.
First i was thinking about fastening them with screws, but i don't think that's a good idea.
I am using screws for brushes, so I'm afraid that they will get hooked on the copper if it doesn't lay flush with the wooden rod.

Do anyone have any thoughts they would like to share?

Nice project ;)
Engraving wood perhaps? Sticking it with epoxy? I would use a mechanical rpm multiplier if it is to be used by hand. With little effort you can build a great experimental rotary switch. Keep it up :)

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2016, 06:28:58 PM »
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Offline shylo

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2016, 09:40:27 AM »
Hi Jeg,
"Without a tap in the middle part of the coil,"
I don't see a center tap in your drawing. I have not tried this but ,this is similar to what my circuit is doing (I think).

Antimony, Instead of screws for brushes try using old guitar strings that's what I use.
artv

Offline Jeg

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2016, 11:18:59 AM »
Hi Jeg,
"Without a tap in the middle part of the coil,"
I don't see a center tap in your drawing. I have not tried this but ,this is similar to what my circuit is doing (I think).

Antimony, Instead of screws for brushes try using old guitar strings that's what I use.
artv

Hi Shylo
Sorry for the confusion. There is not any tapping anywhere in Benitez circuit. I mentioned "tapping" because in the conventional point of view of his circuit, there is not any meaning by connecting two diodes like that except if there was a tap in the middle. But as i mentioned above, the induction that happens is not magnetic. ;)

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2016, 01:27:56 AM »
My experience with the parallel output diodes is
the coil must be isolated and not tapped
 (if tapped just don't use the center wire).
The ideal scenario is a secondary on a transformer,
And not electrically connected to anything else but the diodes.
The physics go far beyond that of a simple rectifier
Due to the electromagnetic induction vs
Current blockage/flow.
This allows for a portion of the electrical power
To carry on in its' current state into a cycle in the future.


The closest thing our current model can relate this to would be
The magnetic capacitance of the inductor at a given freq. and amplitude.
(Depending on your schooling this may be known also as a capacitive reactance.)


At specific freq. vs impedance nodes this effect carries out for more that one cycle
Which over a given time, becomes quantitative.


This is not 'free energy' or over unity in the perspective in which we perceive it.
Rather it should be recognized as infinitely increasing flow of energy from the source.
Like filling a lake behind a dam

Offline Reiyuki

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2016, 05:10:04 AM »
Hi guys.  I am making a commutator, like the one in Benitez first patent, and it has been fun, it have been a very rewarding project until now when i am close to being done with it.
I have finished about 90% of it, but i can't figure out how I should attach the copper sheet metal that i have cut out.
First i was thinking about fastening them with screws, but i don't think that's a good idea.
I am using screws for brushes, so I'm afraid that they will get hooked on the copper if it doesn't lay flush with the wooden rod.

Do anyone have any thoughts they would like to share?

Permanent or removable?

If permanent, 2-part epoxy or JB-weld would probably outlast the rest of the commutator.

If semi-removable, I'd consider trying super-glue or hot-glue.  Both are removable with heat, the only difference being amount of heat.
Machinists use superglue a lot to hold and machine thin/ackward shaped parts.  http://www.cnczone.com/forums/novakon-systems/246774-thin-metal-work-holding-super-glue-rescue.html


Either way, I'd play with the solution on a test-fixture before doing it on the final product.  You'll probably get the best hold by roughing-up both ends with sandpaper first.

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2016, 03:23:06 PM »
Nice project ;)
Engraving wood perhaps? Sticking it with epoxy? I would use a mechanical rpm multiplier if it is to be used by hand. With little effort you can build a great experimental rotary switch. Keep it up :)

I used some kind of Epoxy that's called "chemical metal" or "kemisk metall" and that turned out great so far.
I haven't tested it yet, but I will soon I hope. :)
I tried it out for a TS commutator with three Cu squares that are spaced out 60 degrees from each other.
I began today to epoxy the Benitez one.

Shylo: How do you use guitar strings as brushes?  Can you explain or post a picture I would be much grateful. :)

/F.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.  :)

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Re: Carlos Benitez patent No.17811 circuit drawing self runner
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2016, 05:37:43 PM »
A commutator is really no different in it's function than the cam and points of an ignition system. It makes absolutely no sense to build a commutator when it is much easier to cut some small wood cylinders with a hole saw then grind them into an eccentric cam profile on your bench grinder then stack the cams on a threaded rod which rotates to activate one or more contact switches. In this way you can also change the timing of any individual cam/switch on the fly and easily modify it as needed.

You need a drill, a hole saw, a file or grinder, a threaded rod and some contact switches...too easy. Not to mention the obvious fact that one could integrate both low voltage contact switches and rotary spark gaps on the same timing/sequencer shaft which is very difficult to do any other way:).

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