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Author Topic: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer  (Read 38804 times)

Offline avalon

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2014, 06:18:59 PM »
Wrong patents. Look further.

Now for the most educated, look what I found on the Web: a SGS TUV certificate.
No mention of the second law of thermodynamics there, but a good read nevertheless. They do mention 9.4 times power increase though...

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2014, 06:18:59 PM »

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2014, 06:57:01 PM »
@Avalon,


Thanks! It's very refreshing to get some fine help for a change instead of ten tons of horseshit static:

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2014, 06:18:37 AM »
@Avalon,


Thanks! It's very refreshing to get some fine help for a change instead of ten tons of horseshit static:

The other thread keeps locking up with bad scripts or something

Anyway I'm not here to argue for ever over things that cannot be proved. I've already given my opinion. I only see pieces of documents.

What would you guys have me say ? Something like = OK then it's real I believe it, he can produce more energy out than in.

Thing is, what good does it do anyone unless it can be replicated.

Avalon, when was I previously looking at the wrong patent ? You write it like I do it all the time. I looked at the patent that was linked by number.

If I'm looking at the wrong patent and you want me to look at the right patent then post a link. I'll be glad to look at it. I'm not the one claiming someone else's stuff is OU so I ain't looking for it.

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2014, 06:18:37 AM »
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Offline Farmhand

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2014, 06:35:18 AM »
Where exactly does the snapshot below come from, it doesn't make much sense to me.

It says there is 400 Watts real power consumed at the input with 17.5 kVA and 9.8 kVAR. so if we subtract the real power 0.4 kW and the reactive power 9.8 kVAR from the applied power 17.5 kVA we get 7.3 kVAR missing. If that reactive power does not go back to the supply it gets paid for.

At the output it says 4.7 kW real power and 4.7 kW total power. so the output is 4.7 kW and the applied input power is 17.5 kVA and the reactive power is 9.8 kVAR with 400 Watts consumed, then where is the rest of the applied power ? 7.3 kVAR of it ?

Basically the reactive power back to the supply should almost equal the (applied power minus the output power).

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2014, 04:59:33 PM »
@Farmhand,


Here's the PDF once again posted by member avalon in his post number 119 from above. Wake up man!

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2014, 04:59:33 PM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2014, 05:08:10 PM »
Wrong patents. Look further.

Now for the most educated, look what I found on the Web: a SGS TUV certificate.
No mention of the second law of thermodynamics there, but a good read nevertheless. They do mention 9.4 times power increase though...

~A


@Farmhand,


Here's the quote from member avalon with the hyper-link you're inquiring about. We have to wonder if you're paying enough attention or not?


Offline e2matrix

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2014, 06:44:57 PM »
Forum is having issues.  Can't quote Paul-R but this is a rough Google translation of the document he posted in German (LV-STEHO.pdf) attached.

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2014, 06:44:57 PM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2014, 11:27:07 PM »
@e2matrix,


Thanks for the PDF! Offers Incredible insights into the theoretical foundation of the power origins.

Offline Farmhand

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2014, 11:52:50 PM »
The forum has issues and I don't have time for slow forums (pages taking minutes to load and some don't load at all) nor do I have time for unending argument. The document LV-STEHO-EN is not a patent and it means little to me. It proves nothing, nor does the report in my opinion.

Now I refuse to interact with disrespectful people, so I will just say that I will continue not to believe it and you and whoever else can continue to believe it. If you post things that are not definitively proved and you yourself have no proof, then you only have an opinion or belief.

If the TUV report is independent it is limited in it's scope as it states.

Anyone who wants to believe can, also anyone who is inclined to need some reputable proof is entitled to do so.

The report indicates 17.5 kVA applied and 9.8 kVAR reactive power that leaves 7.7 kVA missing or consumed but the report says the consumed real power is 0.4 kW. The report seems incomplete to me, but I don't really care, because without the grid to provide the 17.5 kVAR to begin with he has nothing.

I bet if he was running the generator to provide the 17.5 kVAR it would not look so good to him.

This looks like a case of selective measurement. 

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2014, 11:52:50 PM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2014, 01:06:20 AM »
@Farmhand,


Quote from Farmhand:

"I bet if he was running the generator to provide the 17.5 kVAR it would not look so good to him".


Naturally the VAR costs money to generate unless it's "System Gain"! Don't forget, system gain only takes place on the Reactive Side of the coupled signal. There's no gain in real power. Excess in line generated Reactive Power is currently wasted as an unwanted by product of the grid. Converting it could cut are utility bills substantially.


We have to factor the cost of mining uranium into the overall COP of Nuclear Fusion, it's stiil 7 times overunity.

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2014, 03:09:02 AM »
@Farmhand,


Quote from Farmhand:

"I bet if he was running the generator to provide the 17.5 kVAR it would not look so good to him".


Naturally the VAR costs money to generate unless it's "System Gain"! Don't forget, system gain only takes place on the Reactive Side of the coupled signal. There's no gain in real power. Excess in line generated Reactive Power is currently wasted as an unwanted by product of the grid. Converting it could cut are utility bills substantially.


We have to factor the cost of mining uranium into the overall COP of Nuclear Fusion, it's stiil 7 times overunity.

"System gain", as used in the reference you originally cited, only refers to the amount of current phase lead inherent to the utility's distribution system.  There is no magical power increase coming from somewhere...

That transformer certification document is hardly worth commenting on.

It looks like the L1-N loads are being balanced by the other phases to make the L1-N power _appear_ to read near zero.  Note that no measurements were given between phases (L1-L2, L2-L3, L1-L3) and it seems odd that a certification group would not want to make those measurements.  Also, one would think that a certification group would be more specific about how measurements were made.  For example, regarding Meter 3, which current probe, the one on L1 or N, was used to calculate L1-N power?  If Meter 3 was measuring voltage across L1-N and using the current probe on L1 to calculate the L1-N power, Meter 3 would indicate the same L1-N power as Meter 1 (4.7kW).  Instead, it looks like they are measuring the L1-N voltage and using the current probe on N to calculate the L1-N power with Meter 3. If L2 is out of phase with L1, and with the 5kW drawn between L2-N, the neutral current would be very low.  The load is directly across L1-N and only the neutral is shared with the transformer.  With the transformer completely disconnected, the load is still powered.   

There is also a typo or error on the measurements page which has Meter 2 measuring L1-N, to which Meter 2 is not connected (it is connected to the"stabilization phase" only...).

In the past, I have always had to at least initial and date any pages attached to certified documents...

PW

     

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2014, 03:09:02 AM »
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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2014, 03:42:45 AM »
What is reactive power


Offline Farmhand

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2014, 09:01:27 AM »
Reactive power is simply power that was applied to the load but was not consumed and is therefore released and returns to the supply.  eg, motor magnetizing current/power.

Reactive power can be kept local to the device (or residence/business) by using power factor correcting equipment, this converts the reactive power to real power and eliminates the line losses back to the supply and reduces the supply current to only the current associated with real power, which improves efficiency by reducing losses.

However for the residential consumer it's not so important as we only pay for the consumed power, in some places there may be a "charge" for very bad power factors, but I am not aware of this in residential situations, only businesses, and power factor can be corrected at the reactive device or appliance or the entire residence or business can be power factor corrected at or near the fuse box.

Applied power minus consumed power and losses equals reactive power, no more no less, basically.

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2014, 12:34:17 PM »
Reactive power is bemf
Its the collapsing magnetic field of the primary, every coil has self inductance
The primary is also being induced by the secondary

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Re: Russian Overunity Resonance Transformer
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2014, 12:36:45 PM »
Now put a capacitor across the primary and you can see how it alleviates the reactive power.
Although it consumes power.

 

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