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Offline sarkeizen

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #75 on: January 17, 2015, 11:50:49 PM »
The evidence for the medical use of cannabis is beyond reproach.  It is a very effective treatment for double fudge chocolate ice cream adversity syndrome.
I am intrigued by your hypothesis.  Tell me more.

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« Reply #76 on: January 18, 2015, 02:24:07 AM »
Not likely. If your view is, by your own admission an extreme minority.  Then BY DEFINITION the number of people who think you are crazy is going to be large.  Significantly larger than the number of MIBs in your twisted fantasy world.  Hence
What Snowden's documents allege is that specific government agencies at least at one time are not above attacking specific person to harm their reputation online.They have a patent on cannabinoids for treating certain diseases like Alzheimer's.  They may have more.  However this was long before there were any large controlled studies on this or other outcomes. You almost always, in medicine file for a patent before you have anything more than preliminary data.   The patent databases have patents for hydrazine sulphate which failed as a useful drug.  Right now the evidence for medical cannabis is pretty...*meh*.

The main problem as I see it is that you need to be high while reading this research.  If you were high, then all of the numbers make perfect sense.

So, you need to be high while conducting this research, and then, you need to be high when reading about this research.  Only then will it make perfect sense.

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« Reply #77 on: January 18, 2015, 03:21:30 AM »
I am intrigued by your hypothesis.  Tell me more.
Test study groups in Berkely California were selected based on their annual consumption of double fudge chocolate ice cream between the hours of 11pm and 4am.  Those who consumed less than 8 ozs per year were labeled "adverse" and included in the study.  Double blind tests were conducted where at 9pm on Saturday nights where members were served snacks some laced with THC and others that were not.  At 11pm the subjects were exposed to speeches from the US House of Representatives on repeal of certain sections of Frank Dodd.  Some subjects fell asleep, others became entranced by the angle and style of ties worn by certain speakers, and some were able to overcome the aversion to double fudge chocolate ice cream.  These groups overlapped.  These tests ran for 26 consecutive weeks.  The data was statistically processed before the double blind protocol was broken.  Finally correlation was performed between the treated and untreated subjects in the study.  The reports show a stunning 532.672904% correlation coefficient with error bands of 0.000000lots000023%  (We later learned that the interns performing the statistical reductions had obtained materials used in the study.)

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« Reply #77 on: January 18, 2015, 03:21:30 AM »
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Offline MileHigh

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« Reply #78 on: January 18, 2015, 03:39:01 AM »
The results of the study were audited by the accounting firm of Cheech, Chong, Chong, Chong, Chong, and Bong.

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« Reply #79 on: January 18, 2015, 04:07:31 AM »
Finally correlation was performed between the treated and untreated subjects in the study.  The reports show a stunning 532.672904% correlation coefficient with error bands of 0.000000lots000023%  (We later learned that the interns performing the statistical reductions had obtained materials used in the study.)
I think I read that article.   Wasn't there a qualitative component where they created a matrix of post-hoc responses to the study?   IIRC the table of respondents to responses was something like:

24% No response.  (Still Sleeping)
4%   "Will I still get credit for this" (all in control)
72% "Have you ever *really* looked at your hand?"

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« Reply #79 on: January 18, 2015, 04:07:31 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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« Reply #80 on: January 18, 2015, 04:29:15 AM »
I think I read that article.   Wasn't there a qualitative component where they created a matrix of post-hoc responses to the study?   IIRC the table of respondents to responses was something like:

24% No response.  (Still Sleeping)
4%   "Will I still get credit for this" (all in control)
72% "Have you ever *really* looked at your hand?"
Most of the last group were big fans of James Franciscus.

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« Reply #81 on: January 18, 2015, 06:12:37 AM »
I didn't mean to drag the post in this direction but, The government itself admitted it could use hemp for post trauma stress disorder for returning troops. Also besides working on cancer it can be used to negate upset stomach problems from chemo therapy. It is reported to work well on seizures as with Charlot's web. Everyone is saying oh no, not the children but, helps with ADHD.

I suspect it is a good weight lose drug also because the hippy group I went to school with that still smoke are thin as a rail.

The only drug I take is a blood pressure pill twice a day, I don't even drink alcohol because it messes up the mind. I have no agenda for drugs here. It's just that facts are the facts. And you still can't patent a natural substance even if you are the government.

With the record built by chemo we definitely need something else. If someone is dying of cancer it is not going to hurt to send them to la la land for a bit.

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Offline Pirate88179

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« Reply #82 on: January 18, 2015, 06:29:00 AM »


If someone is dying of cancer it is not going to hurt to send them to la la land for a bit.



I agree with this point totally.

Bill

Offline raburgeson

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #83 on: January 18, 2015, 06:54:21 AM »
Alright that was an example. The subject was companies shelving patents and here a little background on the example. Please do not argue with the facts because I don't see progress in reading all the official documents on this.

http://www.republicreport.org/2012/marijuana-lobby-illegal/

http://www.world-mysteries.com/marijuana1.htm

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/104411303/Why-Marijuana-and-Hemp-is-Illegal---THE-TRUTH

Bottom line is this is a documented fact, Oil, Chemical, and, Pharma companies lobbied to keep this off the shelf. The government conspired with them and illegalized hemp, pure and simple. So here we have proof of conspiracy. You just can't argue with the facts.

What you can do is wake up to what is going on around you. Double post because I was not prepared to deal with an example as an actual subject.

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« Reply #83 on: January 18, 2015, 06:54:21 AM »
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Offline sarkeizen

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« Reply #84 on: January 19, 2015, 03:03:33 AM »
The government itself admitted it could use hemp for post trauma stress disorder for returning troops.
What the government may or may not have admitted to is irrelevant.  The question is what evidence exists.
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Also besides working on cancer
There is no real significant evidence that cannabinoids affect cancer progression.
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it can be used to negate upset stomach problems from chemo therapy.
The evidence is mixed here.  Depending on if you are looking at efficacy or comfort.  Two meta-analyses stand out here one says slightly better in effect but only in small cases.  The other significant effect but significantly higher side-effects.
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It is reported to work well on seizures as with Charlot's web.
Dravet syndrome is a special case of seizures.  There are allegedly a number of cases which a very particular strain of cannabinoid has anecdotes concerning treatment.   One clinical trial is planned but has not been executed AFAIK. 
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Everyone is saying oh no, not the children but, helps with ADHD.
Again no real useful evidence here.
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With the record built by chemo we definitely need something else.
Yeah, that increase in survival rate is a real bummer.

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« Reply #85 on: January 19, 2015, 04:22:16 AM »
Then there's the jamacian study where the gestating ganga kids's scored higher than, never lower than the "normal" kids in tests conducted at 5 years of age.

The study in on the net for anyone interested.

Getting darn near doobie time at my place too.

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Offline raburgeson

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« Reply #86 on: January 19, 2015, 09:54:42 AM »
Increased survival rate? If they do survive the chemo temporarily it comes back as a super cancer that can not be treated. Well and radiation, radiation causes cancer to begin with. Old age is the highest risk for getting cancer, not what they have been telling you. And all these radioactive discharges they hide from the public is probably second. You can go for the snake oil poison if you like but, the majority of doctors here in the United States will not prescribe it for their families. That's the cold hard facts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8bt8eUB1CU

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« Reply #87 on: January 19, 2015, 01:25:49 PM »
Increased survival rate?
The five and ten year survival rates are considerably higher in cancers where chemo is indicated.  Now if you think those people should have died earlier that's your call. 
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If they do survive the chemo temporarily it comes back as a super cancer that can not be treated.
It's quite a bit more complicated than that.  In diseases AMR second round remission is usually shorter than the first.
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Well and radiation, radiation causes cancer to begin with.
But it is more likely to destroy cells.  Secondary risk is something like 1 in 1000 over a 20-30 year period.  So you weigh that risk.
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Old age is the highest risk for getting cancer, not what they have been telling you.
Most cancers are age correlated.
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You can go for the snake oil poison if you like but, the majority of doctors here in the United States will not prescribe it for their families. That's the cold hard facts.
Nope.  It's the warmth of internet regurgitated nonsense. :)  But please cite a study where this is shown. :)

Offline raburgeson

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« Reply #88 on: January 20, 2015, 03:05:15 AM »
Yes, let's look at the survival rate.

http://blog.bestzapper.com/2011/10/chemo-cancer-cure-rate-is-3-a-97-failure-rate/

This will give you an idea how big the lie is. There is a lot of money in gouge priced medicine, hospital gouging prices, lawyers, estates and funerals. They are cashing you in cow.

http://reachingutopia.com/cure-for-cancer-found-in-canada-dichloroacetate-dca/

There are several cures all kept off the market. Hey, look, no side affects. Of course you have to have a diagonsis for some rare disease to get it and that diagnosis is not Cancer.

Have you thought of the claims of superior high tech medicine when they still have no cure for the common cold or any type of virus? Oh the fear , we are going to have a flu pandemic. On the other hand, they seem to be great at diseases popping up around biological warfare labs.

Why is Chemotherapy still high in price after the patent has obviously ran out? Why are there no generic manufacturers of Chemo? Why does the government say you have no alternative?

How about measles breaking out on kids the have been immunized? People getting the flu that have had their shots. Should these be manatory? What disease have they cured in the last 50 years? Answer the last question and don't just go by the figures of big Pharma.

Now let's address big oil companies. Some big oil clown talked about pig farmers have learned to sell the whole pig and the smart thing to do was to create a market for all the ingredients in oil. No longer on the net because this is big oil we are discussing here.Yes they buy patents to keep them off the market. Look at the US response to the 300 MPG Volkswagen. Look it up, search it, if it is good for you you will not see it. They have screwed themselves this time though. China has enough new millionaires to allow Germany to ignore what the US wants in this regard. The market is there and healthy. They will produce the model anyway. They have already lost market share they had with Russia. They can't afford to lose in the market in China as well. It is a slightly different world we live in. As far as medicine goes if you have a real problem then you need to discover medical tourism. They no longer have the illegal monopoly they use to have either.There are some countries out there that will not kill you for money. Also there are alternatives that will allow you to realize 1000% efficiency over what is legally offered were you are. It is all because products are put on a shelf. Computers are designed 10 generations ahead. However they distribute the components out one at a time to empty your wallet(or purse, ladies). Examples all around you there in plain sight and all you have to do is look and you will see them.

As far as the Volkswagen goes it will be kept off the market. I hope China has already bought some of them and if their hand is forced they will clone them. That is one saving grace about China. Isn't the NWO just ducky! It is a conflict of interest to allow major oil stock owners to be major automobile stock owners. It's a loose loose situation for the consumer. I would at this point like to bring up the 10 million dollar handshake. Many inventors have disclosed it's existence.

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« Reply #89 on: January 20, 2015, 03:21:24 AM »
In the days before big pharma got their chemical tipped talons in us, cannabis oil ruled the waves.

They still have a few of the empties left, to be found around on the net...check the omitted history section.

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