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Offline raburgeson

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Current ridicule
« on: May 09, 2014, 01:54:11 AM »
They are ridiculing the very idea of wanting free energy on the net. This is the work of government spooks. Of course we want free energy. We want free of the ridiculous gouging bills. The control over the people. If you think there is none pull yourself off the grid and see how long it takes to get a nasty visit.

What you can afford you house payments? The conditions of the loan state you must have insurance. This being mandatory they will just jack the price of the insurance high enough you can't keep up. How about an additional 1200 bucks this year and we want that sent for your escorial account right now. That is just one of the things on that account.

There are homeless and where are they? You drive down the street and you don't see them. What is the government doing to them? I heard there was I woman in the South that revealed she was homeless and they forced a chip on her. Can her and her family still be found?

I hope Keshe is for real. He says he can create a living environment in a space without a structure. I am sure interested in that. We can use it for the homeless and green houses and many other things. Imagine going diving without tanks. Imagine not having to pour money into an infrastructure like roads and bridges. Imagine you have become a flying human and have a reactor in you pocket. As a joke you could play quidditch.

First they ban the technology. This tech can jam all signals in a large area was their excuse. Sounds like you need another device to jam the required GPS so they can't find you if they decide to round everyone up and stick them in a FEMA camp. Those camps are in existence you can visit one near you. If you want an actual tour though take friends and very large guns.

You want free of the globalists and the military/industrial complexes around the world. That is why this forum exists. It's best that they hear this up front. We are tired of them and want those monkeys off our backs.

This is stated because we need the basic human rights they deny us, stand up and say what is on your mind.

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Current ridicule
« on: May 09, 2014, 01:54:11 AM »

Offline LibreEnergia

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2014, 02:24:25 AM »
They are ridiculing the very idea of wanting free energy on the net. This is the work of government spooks. Of course we want free energy. We want free of the ridiculous gouging bills. The control over the people. If you think there is none pull yourself off the grid and see how long it takes to get a nasty visit.

What you can afford you house payments? The conditions of the loan state you must have insurance. This being mandatory they will just jack the price of the insurance high enough you can't keep up. How about an additional 1200 bucks this year and we want that sent for your escorial account right now. That is just one of the things on that account.

There are homeless and where are they? You drive down the street and you don't see them. What is the government doing to them? I heard there was I woman in the South that revealed she was homeless and they forced a chip on her. Can her and her family still be found?

I hope Keshe is for real. He says he can create a living environment in a space without a structure. I am sure interested in that. We can use it for the homeless and green houses and many other things. Imagine going diving without tanks. Imagine not having to pour money into an infrastructure like roads and bridges. Imagine you have become a flying human and have a reactor in you pocket. As a joke you could play quidditch.

First they ban the technology. This tech can jam all signals in a large area was their excuse. Sounds like you need another device to jam the required GPS so they can't find you if they decide to round everyone up and stick them in a FEMA camp. Those camps are in existence you can visit one near you. If you want an actual tour though take friends and very large guns.

You want free of the globalists and the military/industrial complexes around the world. That is why this forum exists. It's best that they hear this up front. We are tired of them and want those monkeys off our backs.

This is stated because we need the basic human rights they deny us, stand up and say what is on your mind.

Absolute piffle..

Free energy is a 'ridiculous idea' because it does not exist. Not one 'over-unity' device ever described on here or anywhere for that matter actually works.

There is 'free energy' in the form of such things as wind, solar etc. but it takes investment in technology to harness it. Such investment has to weighed against readily available sources like buying it ready to consume from existing energy suppliers. For the majority of people such investment doesn't stack up on purely economic grounds.

The rest of your diatribe comes across as paranoid and delusional.

Offline SkyWatcher123

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2014, 03:44:22 AM »
Hi raburgeson, thank you very much, you stated that very clearly and i agree completely.
Speaking of, where are all the homeless people that we know have to exist.
A while ago, there were many homeless people at this park for many weeks, then i noticed they were not there anymore.
A few weeks later, they were doing some kind of construction there at the park, maybe you can guess what they were installing, yep, 360 degree camera mounted on a tall pole and I have no doubt that motion sensors and audio devices were also installed.
These people that blindly follow orders from sociopaths, are just as much the problem as the sociopaths themselves.
All people need to seriously wake up now and forever more.
peace love light wisdom

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2014, 03:44:22 AM »
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Offline memoryman

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2014, 05:10:40 PM »
No 'free energy' is needed or even desirable; since none of the devices ever worked, we don't know what will happen IF we tap into : zpe, aether, scalar waves etc. Maybe the earth will blink out of existence...
On a practical level, Thorium can fill all our energy needs safely and cleanly for thousands of years.
I wish that the CIA would pay me for disinformation, I can use the money.

Offline raburgeson

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2014, 08:07:30 AM »
Tesla's worked and it is still above top secret after how many decades? He is not the only one, Gabriel Kron's work is hidden as well. You nay says better check your History books.

We are just cash cows, the same Volkswagen model sold in the US gets 20 more MPG in Europe. That is still rediculas, the Volks in Europe should be doing far better than it is. They are screwing us and we know it!

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Offline MarkE

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2014, 01:30:36 PM »
Tesla's worked and it is still above top secret after how many decades? He is not the only one, Gabriel Kron's work is hidden as well. You nay says better check your History books.

We are just cash cows, the same Volkswagen model sold in the US gets 20 more MPG in Europe. That is still rediculas, the Volks in Europe should be doing far better than it is. They are screwing us and we know it!
A little bit of misinformation can lead to all sorts of misconceptions.  The Blue TDI VWs get slightly better actual mileage in Europe because they are lighter due to different safety and emissions requirements in the US versus Western Europe.  All cars get ~20% better MPG from Imperial gallons than US gallons, because one Imperial gallon ~= 1.2 US gallons.

Offline utilitarian

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2014, 11:40:23 PM »
A little bit of misinformation can lead to all sorts of misconceptions.  The Blue TDI VWs get slightly better actual mileage in Europe because they are lighter due to different safety and emissions requirements in the US versus Western Europe.  All cars get ~20% better MPG from Imperial gallons than US gallons, because one Imperial gallon ~= 1.2 US gallons.


It is crazy we do not adopt the Imperial Gallon here in the USA!!!  We could all save 20% on fuel costs.  I guess those oil lobbyists are too strong here to make that happen.

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2014, 11:40:23 PM »
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Offline raburgeson

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2014, 12:00:07 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBnlXGvA1Wk

In US gallons 62 mpg. Now go check the mileage sticker in the US. I look up info before I post to make sure I understand correctly. I'm no ford fan but, what happened to the guy that was eeking 300 mpg out of a ford V8? A simple software hack of a Toyota hybrid over 300 MPG? The people in EU are getting taken too.

I had a 68 Buick Sport Wagon with a clogged fuel filter and a 350 CID engine giving me 35 MPG and that car weighed 2 1/2 times what a car weighs today and I repeat we are being screwed. The auto companies are owned by the same companies that own big oil. In 1966 they said, oh no we can't produce cars that run on propane they would have 20 percent less power. Then they reground the cam increasing valve over lap and reduced the HP 20%. They didn't stop there, they increased back pressure with a catalytic converter and lowered the compression ratio. You are paying for a computer in the car that makes it impossible to lean the fuel unless you build a circuit to trick it. Ask the water for gas people, they will give you a complete history on this if you need it.

They have a circuit ready for sale if you'd like too.

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 12:20:11 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBnlXGvA1Wk

In US gallons 62 mpg. Now go check the mileage sticker in the US. I look up info before I post to make sure I understand correctly. I'm no ford fan but, what happened to the guy that was eeking 300 mpg out of a ford V8? A simple software hack of a Toyota hybrid over 300 MPG? The people in EU are getting taken too.
I think you need to do better diligence.  Then you will find out that you are buying myths and outright lies.
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I had a 68 Buick Sport Wagon with a clogged fuel filter and a 350 CID engine giving me 35 MPG and that car weighed 2 1/2 times what a car weighs today and I repeat we are being screwed.
Maybe it could get that kind of mileage while it was in freefall off of a cliff.  Go calculate the minimum consumption based on idle speed, displacement, and the minimum stoichiometric mixture that will burn.  Station wagons with big engines in the 1970s were 12mpg to 16mpg affairs.
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The auto companies are owned by the same companies that own big oil.
No they are not.  You cannot name one car company and an oil company that owns that car company.
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 In 1966 they said, oh no we can't produce cars that run on propane they would have 20 percent less power. Then they reground the cam increasing valve over lap and reduced the HP 20%. They didn't stop there, they increased back pressure with a catalytic converter and lowered the compression ratio. You are paying for a computer in the car that makes it impossible to lean the fuel unless you build a circuit to trick it. Ask the water for gas people, they will give you a complete history on this if you need it.
You are badly misinformed.  Drive behind any 1960s or early 1970s era car and you can easily smell the unburnt gas coming out the tail pipe.  Engine HP output per liter of fuel has increased by more than 25% since the 1970s, despite the additional pollution controls.  In the early 1970s 25mpg highway was something that a 1 liter or smaller, very sub 100HP engine delivered.  Modern engine and transmission combinations with up to 150hp (current standards equals about 165hp under 1970s standards) are delivering 35-40mpg highway.

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2014, 12:20:11 AM »
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Offline Gwandau

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2014, 03:55:54 AM »

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The auto companies are owned by the same companies that own big oil.

No they are not.  You cannot name one car company and an oil company that owns that car company.
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I am not taking any position in this discussion, but I don't think he means owned in a legal sense. Most of us know what the big American families are up to, and there does not take much time to check out the interests presented by the Rockefeller-family and the since many years closely connected Morgans- and Rothschilds. They have big interests to secure.

A personal friend of me works at one of our Swedish car companies as an engine developer.  When presenting a variety of the HHO-effect, with a quite sophisticated system that utilized a preheated fuel injection instead of using HHO, but with virtually the same enhanced combustion effect, his fully working alternative was rejected and when asking for an explanation he was told that the car company does not benefit from anything that too radically starts to threaten the economic stability of the oil industry. There is a balance maintained in those industrial sectors, making the money continue to flow up as planned.

And money flows up. That's the very idea with the present monetary system, it's designed to effectively shunt the flow, making it more easy to increase ones riches the richer one is. :-) 

The validity of the concept Over-Unity is of course questionable, but theoretically any energy harvested from an unknown source initially would be regarded as Over-Unity until the source is detected and categorized into our present scientific belief system.

I am pretty sure most guys at this forum knows Over-Unity for what it is - A description of something yet to incorporate into the existing thermo dynamic laws.

Cheers,

Gwandau

Offline MarkE

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2014, 04:18:21 AM »
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The auto companies are owned by the same companies that own big oil.

No they are not.  You cannot name one car company and an oil company that owns that car company.
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I am not taking any position in this discussion, but I don't think he means owned in a legal sense. Most of us know what the big American families are up to, and there does not take much time to check out the interests presented by the Rockefeller-family and the since many years closely connected Morgans- and Rothschilds. They have big interests to secure.
The return to the (joys) of a feudal system is well on its way and there is much to criticize about that.  But wrong is wrong.  He said oil companies own car companies and they do not.
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A personal friend of me works at one of our Swedish car companies as an engine developer.  When presenting a variety of the HHO-effect, with a quite sophisticated system that utilized a preheated fuel injection instead of using HHO, but with virtually the same enhanced combustion effect, his fully working alternative was rejected and when asking for an explanation he was told that the car company does not benefit from anything that too radically starts to threaten the economic stability of the oil industry. There is a balance maintained in those industrial sectors, making the money continue to flow up as planned.

Your unverified story is difficult to reconcile with the absolute fact of the billions that car companies have competitively put into increasing fuel efficiency.  There is no trail of money that I know of into car companies from oil companies.  One could postulate that the boards and management have under the table, and therefore illegal deals with oil companies that would result in things like your story.  Such ideas are just postulates until someone comes up with hard evidence.
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And money flows up. That's the very idea with the present monetary system, it's designed to effectively shunt the flow, making it more easy to increase ones riches the richer one is. :-) 
Feudalism lives and is growing.
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The validity of the concept Over-Unity is of course questionable, but theoretically any energy harvested from an unknown source initially would be regarded as Over-Unity until the source is detected and categorized into our present scientific belief system.
Yes, and there is no problem with that.
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I am pretty sure most guys at this forum knows Over-Unity for what it is - A description of something yet to incorporate into the existing thermo dynamic laws.

Cheers,

Gwandau

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Re: Current ridicule
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Offline utilitarian

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2014, 05:46:32 PM »

The validity of the concept Over-Unity is of course questionable, but theoretically any energy harvested from an unknown source initially would be regarded as Over-Unity until the source is detected and categorized into our present scientific belief system.

I am pretty sure most guys at this forum knows Over-Unity for what it is - A description of something yet to incorporate into the existing thermo dynamic laws.



You know, this sounds plausible, but it has never worked out this way.  No credible scientist ever found some magical energy and said, hey, there is no source for this!  Look, energy for nothing!!  Think about all the energy sources man has tapped over the centuries?  Has the source of that energy ever been a mystery?  Sure, the exact how and why may not have been immediately clear, but it has never appeared like it was energy from nowhere.  Fire always consumed something, early battery cells would drain, and the Sun, well the Sun has always been pretty visible up there, and it sure looks like it is burning something.


You want to know some truth?  I have some truth.  The truth is, this website is a waste of time, and I am guilty as anyone of wasting time on it in the past.  Guys like Mr. Burgeson here, and no offense to Mr. Burgeson, he is no doubt an intelligent person, but he is gravely misinformed.  People like Mr. Burgeson, arguing with them about these simple things is like shooting fish in a barrel.  You are guaranteed to be right.  It does not matter where exactly the free energy proponent made a mistake, but he for sure made a mistake somewhere, or he would not arrive at the answer he has.


It is like someone taking a $10 roll of quarters, breaking and mixing up the quarters, and then stacking them in various and elaborate ways and claiming, "Hey, I have $10.75 here!"  No, you don't.  They may line them up this way or that way, in lines or stacks or pyramids.  It does not matter.  You do not have to count every stack or figure out where they made a mistake, but for sure they made a mistake somewhere.


To be honest, if you are a skeptic, meaning a normal freaking person with a high school understanding of math and science, you do not belong here.  If you are a normal person, you are a troll on this board.  I do not know why reasonable people like MarkE here, and TK and others even post here.  There is nothing to be learned, nothing to be gained.  Just entertainment value, I guess, making fun of the poor individuals caught in some kind of glitch where they refuse to see simple evidence.

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2014, 07:24:19 AM »
Well there is this hot off the press:

http://thespiritscience.net/2014/05/25/volkswagens-new-300-mpg-car-not-allowed-in-america-because-it-is-too-efficient

This says it all!  -  Why no copy and paste for links?

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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 09:53:58 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBnlXGvA1Wk

In US gallons 62 mpg. Now go check the mileage sticker in the US. I look up info before I post to make sure I understand correctly. I'm no ford fan but, what happened to the guy that was eeking 300 mpg out of a ford V8? A simple software hack of a Toyota hybrid over 300 MPG? The people in EU are getting taken too.

I had a 68 Buick Sport Wagon with a clogged fuel filter and a 350 CID engine giving me 35 MPG and that car weighed 2 1/2 times what a car weighs today and I repeat we are being screwed. The auto companies are owned by the same companies that own big oil. In 1966 they said, oh no we can't produce cars that run on propane they would have 20 percent less power. Then they reground the cam increasing valve over lap and reduced the HP 20%. They didn't stop there, they increased back pressure with a catalytic converter and lowered the compression ratio. You are paying for a computer in the car that makes it impossible to lean the fuel unless you build a circuit to trick it. Ask the water for gas people, they will give you a complete history on this if you need it.

They have a circuit ready for sale if you'd like too.


WTF?

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Then they reground the cam increasing valve over lap and reduced the HP 20%.

Many decades ago one of the first tricks the Hot Rodders learned was that increasing overlap was the way to get more horsepower (HP). Of course the auto company engineers had learned that first.

 But you tell me that MORE overlap is REDUCED HP!

Maybe you got a little mixed up?

How much more of what you say is a little mixed up?


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Re: Current ridicule
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2014, 01:58:18 AM »
In furtherance to previous points debated...

The owners of the oil and car companies are at the very least in fact pedophiles by proxy, and very possibly active pedophiles to the most depraved levels...bots have seats around their "enhanced" global monopoly table, where you and I are all commodities...and a most readily disposable one at that.

And to profess by implication, misdirection, or distraction that we do not exist in an electro magnetic medium, easily tapped by simply using the correct method is to open ones self up for criticism and negative speculation.

Regards...

 

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