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Author Topic: sun based expantion and sun cover  (Read 4349 times)

Offline shimondoodkin

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sun based expantion and sun cover
« on: May 07, 2014, 11:03:09 PM »
from combining two ides below it is possible to get an idea
for new machine using a spring, a gas expanding quickly or swirled 'fishing line artficial mucle' that contract on heat.
and a sun shild a sun can be shilded with small motor.

this thing not violates the 3rd law of thermodinamics
the law says
total energy=system evergy+ surraunding energy
and the system always absorbs the surraunding energy so to lower energy in a system you must always continiue doing it otherwise the evergy of the system will rise by itself from surraunding.

the law gives an idea how to create a self running system.

isn't a battery violates the 3rd rule of thermodynamics?
or at last a battery does this law very in efficiently.

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Re: The Death of the Lenz Law
« Reply #234 on: 2011-03-09, 21:28:52 »
This is how I would create energy in a closed system.

1)  create a potential field like gravity
2)  let the potential exert it's influence on somethething like a mass, and store this energy into another potential like a spring.
3)  turn off the first potential
4)  move the mass back to the starting point
5)  repeat

The implied assumption here is that a "potential field"  can just give energy or create energy not accountable to the phenomena that created the potential, which might take energy to "create" it.

So if we can find such a potential where the energy required to establish it is not a variable of the "objects" and their location in it, then maybe we can pull it off.



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Re: The Death of the Lenz Law
« Reply #245 on: 2011-03-10, 05:24:22 »
In 2008, total worldwide energy consumption
was 474 exajoules (474×1018J) with 80 to 90
percent derived from the combustion of fossil
fuels. This is equivalent to an average annual
power consumption rate of 15 terawatts (1.504×1013W).

Sunlight is Earth's primary source of energy.
The solar constant is the amount of power that
the Sun deposits per unit area that is directly
exposed to sunlight. The solar constant is equal
to approximately 1,368 W/m2 (watts per square meter)
at a distance of one astronomical unit (AU) from
the Sun (that is, on or near Earth). Sunlight on
the surface of Earth is attenuated by the Earth's
atmosphere so that less power arrives at the surface
closer to 1,000 W/m2 in clear conditions when the Sun
is near the zenith.

Earth Surface area is 510,072,000 km2 where
148,940,000 km2 is land (29.2 %) and
361,132,000 km2 is water (70.8 %).

Total energy produced by the Sun on the Earth
is approx. 510072000000 Joules or 510 terawatts,
and since only half the Earth is on sunlight
then the value is approx. 255 terawatts.

The IR radiation form the side of the Earth that
is not against the sun is the same, 255 terawatts.
Because if it was not then the Earth would have
boiled away a long time ago. The Earth's total ability
to get rid of heat by IR radiation to space is not

So the Earth is able to "take on" 255 terawatts
of heat without any problem. The extra small
15 terawatts (actually less than that) produced
by humans is small compared to the Sun's heat.

So if we replace the energy we today produce by
burning oil with free energy then the result
climate will be the almost same as today. We will
probably get more Sun energy because of a cleaner
atmosphere but the IR radiation at night will also
be larger because of that.

All in all I think humans will be better off with
free energy than burning oil.


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