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Author Topic: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,  (Read 201281 times)

Offline Khwartz

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #450 on: May 07, 2016, 07:55:47 PM »
There may be much more than what is presently believed
to this device.  Apparently much more than simply charging
and discharging capacitors or inductors at critical points
repetitively within each cycle of Input (well timed periods
of Taking then Giving Back) Voltage and Current.

What would it take to perfect the illusion of being able to
return to the Source nearly all of the power extracted by
the load;  in such a way that power measurement devices
are incapable of recognizing the illusion?
Hi SeaMonkey! That is exactly my intuition when I saw the video where they demonstrate to a Japanese wind-turbine investor.
 
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Is it a scheme of high speed extraction and return of energy
for very brief periods multiple times during the duration of
each Input Cycle?

Obviously, whatever is taking place to produce the "Magic"
is quite complex and at a considerably higher frequency than
the power line.  Why else would the device need electronic
switches which are capable of nanoSecond speeds?

It is a very clever scheme, to be sure.  Playing Ponzi on the
Source with what appears to be reliability.
I am more and more afraid that You're right :/


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #451 on: May 07, 2016, 11:27:10 PM »
Quote from: Sea Monkey

What would it take to perfect the illusion of being able to
return to the Source nearly all of the power extracted by
the load;  in such a way that power measurement devices
are incapable of recognizing the illusion?

It would take nano second switching
OR
a 45 degree rotor that is offsetting all internal parameters
OR
both.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #452 on: May 08, 2016, 12:26:16 AM »
Hopefully I will be able to glean some insight when this year's  conference videos  start coming out.  Murray is  doing a presentation on the transforming generator which I have a feeling will be very helpful.  I have a modular test bed setup with which I can easily modify all circuit parameters, timing and duty cycles.  I'm poking around with a few experiments now but really could use some down to earth engineering direction for determining correct component values.  It is all still too much an enigma to me at this point.

Dave

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #452 on: May 08, 2016, 12:26:16 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #453 on: May 08, 2016, 12:49:33 AM »
Quote from: SeaMonkey on August 18, 2014, 08:20:32 AM
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Is it a scheme of high speed extraction and return of energy
for very brief periods multiple times during the duration of
each Input Cycle?

Obviously, whatever is taking place to produce the "Magic"
is quite complex and at a considerably higher frequency than
the power line.  Why else would the device need electronic
switches which are capable of nanoSecond speeds?

It is a very clever scheme, to be sure.  Playing Ponzi on the
Source with what appears to be reliability.


From what I can tell, the nanosecond switching Paul developed was for his flyback energy capture in his motor design.  When he cuts the power flow to an inductor, he said he needed to make switching transitions in less than 5 ns in order to redirect the magnetic energy into his storage elements.  Otherwise, I think he was blowing up transistors or wasting too much stored energy into system losses.  What is curious to me is that in the scope shot from the conference, you can clearly see a dwell time between the switching transistions in the SERPS process that is much greater than 5 ns.  I wonder if Paul's fast switching was actually used here or if the switches were uses strictly for their mechanical-like nature.

Dave
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #454 on: May 08, 2016, 04:19:52 AM »
Quote from: SeaMonkey on August 18, 2014, 08:20:32 AM
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From what I can tell, the nanosecond switching Paul developed was for his flyback energy capture in his motor design.  When he cuts the power flow to an inductor, he said he needed to make switching transitions in less than 5 ns in order to redirect the magnetic energy into his storage elements.  Otherwise, I think he was blowing up transistors or wasting too much stored energy into system losses.  What is curious to me is that in the scope shot from the conference, you can clearly see a dwell time between the switching transistions in the SERPS process that is much greater than 5 ns.  I wonder if Paul's fast switching was actually used here or if the switches were uses strictly for their mechanical-like nature.

Dave
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How much greater switching time, than 5 ns, was showing on the scope? ......I Skyped an engineer on the QEG build project who agreed with me that Bearden's switching times were between 5-30 ns. This is adequate to rip off a chunk of spatial, electron potential during the electron relaxation time, not electrons but potentials.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #454 on: May 08, 2016, 04:19:52 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #455 on: May 08, 2016, 07:10:57 AM »
How much greater switching time, than 5 ns, was showing on the scope? ......I Skyped an engineer on the QEG build project who agreed with me that Bearden's switching times were between 5-30 ns. This is adequate to rip off a chunk of spatial, electron potential during the electron relaxation time, not electrons but potentials.

Meta

Clearly, between the switching there is some distance much greater than nanoseconds considering that scope resolution is at 5ms/div. 

As shown by this scope shot:  http://energyscienceconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/20140628_180102.jpg

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #456 on: May 08, 2016, 12:07:12 PM »
Clearly, between the switching there is some distance much greater than nanoseconds considering that scope resolution is at 5ms/div. 

As shown by this scope shot:  http://energyscienceconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/20140628_180102.jpg

I would make an educated guess that Murry and Babcock are using two of everything since I heard they are using two outputs, doubling the fast switches from 3 to 6 and the signal is a dual spike before it repeats again, flipping one half of the hardware inversely and backward to use it against the other half, which is the proper 2D shift of dimensions necessary in all over unity machines.

Also, since the scope is seeing a 5 ms/div time, they may be using lower, harmonic partials of the super fast 5 ns.

Thats all, folks.  8)

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #457 on: June 06, 2016, 02:46:40 AM »
Hello Dave, it's been a long time and you know how sceptical I got on all the whole affaire but guess what, here something which gave me hope again about.

It is not Jim or Paul saying but Eric Dollard.

Hear the first minutes starting especially to minute 00:43; it is about charging in parallel and discharging in series (if my English were good enough to well understand - You may confirm my hearing ;) ) at very hight speed by vibrations.

https://youtu.be/vwu8rspxQWE

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #458 on: June 06, 2016, 04:17:16 AM »
Hello Dave, it's been a long time and you know how sceptical I got on all the whole affaire but guess what, here something which gave me hope again about.

It is not Jim or Paul saying but Eric Dollard.

Hear the first minutes starting especially to minute 00:43; it is about charging in parallel and discharging in series (if my English were good enough to well understand - You may confirm my hearing ;) ) at very hight speed by vibrations.

https://youtu.be/vwu8rspxQWE

Best Regards,
Didier


Yeah, when I worked with Eric Dollard, he always spoke about the series-parallel capacitor phenomena.  It's when I saw Jim's 2014 presentation that I really took it seriously.  Eric always spoke highly of Jim's work and almost started collaborating with Jim again but complications kept that at bay.  I feel like this is the one, but tuning is difficult.  It seems there are many factors in making this thing run right.  I'm feeling hopeful about the content regarding the transforming generator that Jim Murray will speak about in this upcoming conference.  I just hope the video comes out shortly after...


Dave

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #458 on: June 06, 2016, 04:17:16 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #459 on: June 06, 2016, 12:08:15 PM »
Eric Dollards comment "series-parallel capacitor charge/discharge" is Eric playing technician rather than scientist.

Technician or technique has a root called "I find a trick".

Eric, the technician, has found another trick or technique, to get the circuits to do what he wants.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #460 on: June 24, 2016, 08:39:27 PM »
How to transform reactive power to the active - http://gorchilin.com/articles/ideas/lick?lang=en

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #461 on: July 12, 2016, 04:07:14 PM »
Hi All,

I can confirm that I tried every conceivable switching combination, without success.
Simulation rarely addresses all of the losses.

It is also very easy to fool your self even with digital scope power measurements by not monitoring current in the correct places.

I stopped working on it, so I could work on other projects.

Until Babcock & Murray reveal more in a patent, SERPS is not worth pursuing.

Barry


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #462 on: July 16, 2016, 07:48:50 AM »
Hi All,

I can confirm that I tried every conceivable switching combination, without success.
Simulation rarely addresses all of the losses.

It is also very easy to fool your self even with digital scope power measurements by not monitoring current in the correct places.

I stopped working on it, so I could work on other projects.

Until Babcock & Murray reveal more in a patent, SERPS is not worth pursuing.

Barry


I think you may be right about not pursuing it until enough info is gleaned.  I have a gut feeling that these guys are not BSing and is one of the reason that I built my test bed as fully as possible.  One day, I will have the info that I need to make this circuit function in reality.  Until then, it is time invested and I haven't been pouring energy into it.  Waiting to hear about the transforming generator...


Dave

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #463 on: August 23, 2016, 06:27:01 AM »
How to transform reactive power to the active

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #464 on: August 23, 2016, 06:27:33 AM »
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