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Author Topic: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,  (Read 201258 times)

Offline e2matrix

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #405 on: March 29, 2016, 06:56:57 PM »
Not sure I understood the last few things you said in the video TK.  It seemed you were saying the phase angle calc would still have your setup generating overunity.  Is that correct?  I didn't hear applause (LOL) at the end so one has to wonder what you are really saying.
I didn't read the video comments before posting this so I think I understand now after reading those. 

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #406 on: March 30, 2016, 03:04:30 AM »
What is the difference between the "SERPS concept" and what I showed in the video linked above?

By the way, the Video URL has changed: It is now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdrAE_IZ74

Same video, just a different URL.

Your circuit doesn't utilize parametric variations. 

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #407 on: March 30, 2016, 03:07:16 AM »
Not sure I understood the last few things you said in the video TK.  It seemed you were saying the phase angle calc would still have your setup generating overunity.  Is that correct?  I didn't hear applause (LOL) at the end so one has to wonder what you are really saying.
I didn't read the video comments before posting this so I think I understand now after reading those.

He is playing on the QEG nonsense and calling it out on the poor measurement techniques used to claim OU.  There was a whole bunch of nontechnical hype generated by the QEG. 

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #407 on: March 30, 2016, 03:07:16 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #408 on: March 30, 2016, 05:24:09 AM »
Your circuit doesn't utilize parametric variations.

Fair enough. But consider my circuit (and the SERPS thing) as a "black box" that is given an input and produces an output. How does the output "know" whether it was produced by an ordinary fixed L-C oscillator, or a parametric oscillator? What is the difference in the output? Does a parametric oscillator produce some particular, special kind of Reactive Power that is somehow different from the Reactive Power in a tank circuit with fixed L and C?

If so, what is the difference, how is it special?

Offline MenofFather

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #409 on: March 31, 2016, 11:05:28 AM »
Here's a video: They claim power's generated by the current, voltage out of phase 90 degrees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDjWwoD83Rk&list=UU-41VqjATdRAlN7ztX8S30A
What is input and output? Input is DC or AC? And output DC or AC?

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #409 on: March 31, 2016, 11:05:28 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #410 on: March 31, 2016, 05:26:08 PM »
Fair enough. But consider my circuit (and the SERPS thing) as a "black box" that is given an input and produces an output. How does the output "know" whether it was produced by an ordinary fixed L-C oscillator, or a parametric oscillator? What is the difference in the output? Does a parametric oscillator produce some particular, special kind of Reactive Power that is somehow different from the Reactive Power in a tank circuit with fixed L and C?

If so, what is the difference, how is it special?


Then here is the million dollar question.  Can you convert reactive power to real power without destroying the oscillation?


I believe that TK can do it.




To that applause question.   TK is taking the P out of Hope girl's video.  The "applause" is from Hope Girl's video. ;D


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #411 on: April 01, 2016, 03:44:23 AM »

Then here is the million dollar question.  Can you convert reactive power to real power without destroying the oscillation?


I believe that TK can do it.




To that applause question.   TK is taking the P out of Hope girl's video.  The "applause" is from Hope Girl's video. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXrhRqlQE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyVZWkYAvkk

Actually... the applause in the first video may _sound_ like it's from one of HypeGirl's videos, but it is actually a free sound effect from this website:
http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/index.html

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #411 on: April 01, 2016, 03:44:23 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #412 on: April 01, 2016, 04:51:24 AM »
What is the difference between the "SERPS concept" and what I showed in the video linked above?

By the way, the Video URL has changed: It is now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCdrAE_IZ74

Same video, just a different URL.

To be honest, TK, I am a jackass.  I watched the video while I was getting ready for work in the morning and not fully paying attention.  I caught the total wrong impression of the video because I heard the applauses and "Texas Resonance" thinking you were debunking the QEG as it stands from the hype generated over standard reactive power measurements.  My apologies.

I watched your video more closely and like what I've seen.  Hopefully i've got something to share soon..

Dave

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #413 on: April 01, 2016, 06:54:18 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXrhRqlQE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyVZWkYAvkk

Actually... the applause in the first video may _sound_ like it's from one of HypeGirl's videos, but it is actually a free sound effect from this website:
http://www.pacdv.com/sounds/index.html


Maybe Hope Girl used the same sound effect library lol


So what happened to the loop back?


BTW if you want to sell your queg, I'll buy one.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #413 on: April 01, 2016, 06:54:18 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #414 on: April 02, 2016, 06:13:33 AM »
To be honest, TK, I am a jackass.  I watched the video while I was getting ready for work in the morning and not fully paying attention.  I caught the total wrong impression of the video because I heard the applauses and "Texas Resonance" thinking you were debunking the QEG as it stands from the hype generated over standard reactive power measurements.  My apologies.

I watched your video more closely and like what I've seen.  Hopefully i've got something to share soon..

Dave
No, you're not a jackass. I absolutely am trying to get people to think clearly about the FTW QEG claims and posted measurements. Note the high similarity between my waveforms and those shown in the most recent "who we work for" video from James Robitaille. My MicroQEG does _the same thing_  as theirs (even if it isn't a parametric oscillator), but at a higher frequency and with a greater ratio of VARs to input power. And it does it cheaply and silently. And the schematic is freely available, works the first time and doesn't require some expensive core assembly that shorts out and needs to be rewound at great expense.  Yet nobody has given me hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why is that, since I've shown even more evidence of "Overunity" performance -- "OU in VARs" that is -- than any of the FTW QEG builders or the Robitailles themselves? Think about it.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #415 on: April 02, 2016, 06:19:04 AM »

Maybe Hope Girl used the same sound effect library lol


So what happened to the loop back?


BTW if you want to sell your queg, I'll buy one.

I'll show you mine looped back.... just as soon as the FTW QEG people show theirs, started with a crank mechanism and self-running and powering a home, like it says it WILL do in the FAQs included with their "open source" plans.  LOL....  and I can give you the same excuses that HypeGirl gives for not demonstrating self-running, etc.

It's not even worth the shipping for me to sell you mine. You can build one yourself for under 20 dollars US.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #415 on: April 02, 2016, 06:19:04 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #416 on: April 02, 2016, 07:43:12 AM »
@TK


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Fair enough. But consider my circuit (and the SERPS thing) as a "black box" that is given an input and produces an output. How does the output "know" whether it was produced by an ordinary fixed L-C oscillator, or a parametric oscillator? What is the difference in the output? Does a parametric oscillator produce some particular, special kind of Reactive Power that is somehow different from the Reactive Power in a tank circuit with fixed L and C? [/size]If so, what is the difference, how is it special?


I have a standard AC capacitor and a standard inductor as an LC circuit and when I add energy to the system it oscillates between the two in known ways. Now I deconstruct the single capacitor into 100 separate plate pairs each plate pair separated by random distance in a random space. Then I deconstruct the single inductor into 100 separate inductors each inductor separated by a random distance in a random space.


Which do you think would be more susceptible to a variation in some parameter within the system due to some unexpected interaction.?. Both are in fact an LC circuit by definition however intuitively we know they are not the same thing. I have to wonder how many different parallel, series, inductive, capacitive, field variations there could possibly be?.


On a note of interest there are 80, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000 ways to arrange a deck of 52 cards... that is 67 zero's. There are more ways to arrange a simple deck of cards than there are atoms, atoms!, on this Earth. The fact of this matter is that not you nor I or any know supercomputer could ever calculate the odds of the possible interactions between 100 random capacitor plates and inductors within a given space.


Now don't get me wrong, I generally agree with your point of view however the math does not lie and we honestly do not know what could happen when the possible combinations of doing something and possible interactions are damn near infinite. So no a simple capacitor and inductor LC circuit is not the same-same thing as a parametric circuit containing multiple elements...obviously.


You have to intuitively know what your looking for and follow through by proving it otherwise, I'm sorry, your basically screwed. I know it sucks but that's the way it is and if you cannot imagine another way, a better way,  then again your screwed.


AC

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #417 on: April 02, 2016, 08:26:54 AM »
On a note of interest there are 80, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000, 000 ways to arrange a deck of 52 cards... that is 67 zero's. There are more ways to arrange a simple deck of cards than there are atoms, atoms!, on this Earth. The fact of this matter is that not you nor I or any know supercomputer could ever calculate the odds of the possible interactions between 100 random capacitor plates and inductors within a given space.

For those where math wasn't their strong suit, so to speak:
http://czep.net/weblog/52cards.html

By the way AC, my graduate statistics class kick my butt.  Big numbers tend to do that to me.   ;)

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #418 on: April 02, 2016, 01:35:12 PM »
I'll show you mine looped back.... just as soon as the FTW QEG people show theirs, started with a crank mechanism and self-running and powering a home, like it says it WILL do in the FAQs included with their "open source" plans.  LOL....  and I can give you the same excuses that HypeGirl gives for not demonstrating self-running, etc.

It's not even worth the shipping for me to sell you mine. You can build one yourself for under 20 dollars US.
Tinsel Hello! ;) Re your QEG I would like to be able to replicate your device just for my own use any chance you have a layout for the PCB I ask that as i know you use a saw to ingeniously cut the tracks. Also glad ti see you have reloaded your 2 videos on the QEG.

Regards AG

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #419 on: April 02, 2016, 11:02:12 PM »
Been piecing together a test bed for the SERPS using Babcock style switching techniques for about a year now.  I think I have figured out how the circuit is arranged.   I'm getting some pretty amazing results.  I have much to do to prepare my switching circuits to be able to handle some higher power levels but here is a preview of the waveforms I've been able to achieve.  The low power calculations are looking very promising.

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/FIG001_zpsij6nvm3s.png

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/FIG002_zpsfahlcdms.png

Blue waveform is transformer voltage, yellow is current thru the capacitor bank, and red is a multiplication of the two waves, or the power wave.  In the first image, the waveform in the center is correctly phased for power calculations.  The current is traveling through one half of the CT transformer on one half cycle and thru the other half of the transformer on the second half cycle.  So to get the correct power phasing for the outter two half cycles, I'd need to connect my probe to the other side of the transformer.  If you're imaginative, you can just visualize the power wave to be mirrored on the 0V axis and you can get an idea of the power flow on that half cycle.

Dave
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