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Author Topic: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,  (Read 302998 times)

Spokane1

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #375 on: April 02, 2015, 09:37:37 PM »
Is there anybody that saw the demonstration unit and knows the number of transistor/scr switches that the 2014 SERPS demonstration had?


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Dave
Dear Dave,
The device that was displayed at the 2014 Bedini Convention had more devices that what were actually used. I understand that Paul Babbcock took some switching network cards form his other prototype circuits to compose this proof of principle device for the convention. So it is difficult to determine exactly just how many switches were used in this implementation. However each "switch" is composed of three(3) discrete solid state devices. One is an SCR and another is an IGBJT (or MOSFET for low power applications). I don't know what the third one is, perhaps a fast steering diode.
I know this is not much help.
Mark McKay, PE

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #376 on: April 03, 2015, 05:28:07 AM »
Dear Dave,
The device that was displayed at the 2014 Bedini Convention had more devices that what were actually used. I understand that Paul Babbcock took some switching network cards form his other prototype circuits to compose this proof of principle device for the convention. So it is difficult to determine exactly just how many switches were used in this implementation. However each "switch" is composed of three(3) discrete solid state devices. One is an SCR and another is an IGBJT (or MOSFET for low power applications). I don't know what the third one is, perhaps a fast steering diode.
I know this is not much help.
Mark McKay, PE


Hey Mark,


It is actually of more help that you'd realize.  It just so happens that between this post and another post in the Energetic  Forum that you made that I've pieced together some more of the puzzle in my head.  I've been studying the scant amount of SERPS imagery from Aaron's website and from watching the conference presentation.  It seems from the wires that are leaving the prototype board terminals and going to the load, caps and transformer that they are using 6 different switches.  This would line up with them being able to arrange a parallel charge/series discharge in both polarities of the 60 Hz sine wave. 


I've been reading over Eric Dollard's work on the differences of EMF and voltage, as well as MMF and displacement current and how they apply to power production.  I think I'm starting to see something come together that might be useful and engineerable.  I just need to get a switching scheme down so I can take it to the bench.


Thanks,


Dave

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #377 on: April 06, 2015, 06:30:12 PM »
Did anybody catch any details about this circuitry that can be seen peeking over the waveform on the top left?  I can't really make out anything significant.  Were there components with heat sinks?  Another switching element, maybe?  How many wires were going into this circuitry?


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Dave




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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #378 on: April 11, 2015, 06:23:03 AM »
Does anybody know of a readily available MOSFET that has a switching fall time of 5 ns or less?  I'm searching and am finding potential candidates, but none of them seem to be distributed in smaller quantities due to lack of demand and manufacturing protocols.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #379 on: April 23, 2015, 08:56:53 AM »
Hi Dave,

How voltage you MOSFET need? For find transistor you need know Voltage, RDS On.

May be this IXTY08N50D2 like for you. Breakdown Voltage is about 500 v.

Try looking for in the HEXFET(it just Power MOSFET) or in the DirectFET(Digital Audio MOSFET).

May be this IRFH5215. The Fall Time is 2.9 ns on the Gate Resistans 1.3 Ohm. Breakdown Voltage is 150 v and RDS On 45 mOhm. This is HEXFET.
Or IRF7665S2. The fall time 3.9 ns with the Gate Resistans 6.8 Ohm. This is DirectFET. If you place a gate resistor less, you will decrease a Fall Time.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2015, 06:04:22 AM by Janya »

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TinselKoala

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #381 on: July 06, 2015, 04:47:21 AM »
I have a circuit up on my bench right now that produces a 5 ns falltime at the load , at a frequency around 270 kHz, using an ordinary IRF830n mosfet driven by a TC4420 driver chip.The driver chip is fed by the output of a Schmitt trigger inverter, and I'm using a 4.7 ohm series gate resistor between the 4420 and the mosfet Gate pin. 

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #383 on: July 08, 2015, 06:23:11 AM »
I have a circuit up on my bench right now that produces a 5 ns falltime at the load , at a frequency around 270 kHz, using an ordinary IRF830n mosfet driven by a TC4420 driver chip.The driver chip is fed by the output of a Schmitt trigger inverter, and I'm using a 4.7 ohm series gate resistor between the 4420 and the mosfet Gate pin.


Does the fall time go up the lower the frequency you go?  I am trying to get as close to what Paul said as possible when he very seriously stated that the fall times of his switching need to be 5 ns or less.   What kind of fall time would happen if you had these mosfets running steady state DC and then shut them off?


Thanks,


Dave

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #384 on: July 08, 2015, 06:38:05 AM »

Does the fall time go up the lower the frequency you go?  I am trying to get as close to what Paul said as possible when he very seriously stated that the fall times of his switching need to be 5 ns or less.   What kind of fall time would happen if you had these mosfets running steady state DC and then shut them off?


Thanks,


Dave
Fall time does not have a relation to switching frequency.  It is a function of how fast charge can be driven into the MOSFET gate, and the MOSFET's characteristics: particularly drain to gate capacitance.  Pick an appropriate MOSFET, pair it with a good driver, layout the circuit properly and you can get really fast rise and fall times.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #385 on: July 08, 2015, 07:06:31 AM »
Fall time does not have a relation to switching frequency.  It is a function of how fast charge can be driven into the MOSFET gate, and the MOSFET's characteristics: particularly drain to gate capacitance.  Pick an appropriate MOSFET, pair it with a good driver, layout the circuit properly and you can get really fast rise and fall times.


Yeah, I understand that.  Sorry about the shortness of my original post.  I'm more curious about slowing the switching frequency down because I'm sure the inductance @270khz in that circuit is causing an impedance which is limiting current.  From my experiements, faster fall times are easier with smaller currents.  I'm just curious if the circuit would still show fall times of 5 ns with heavy current flow.


Dave

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #386 on: July 08, 2015, 08:52:46 AM »
Well, here are the scopeshots at maximum (~272 kHz) and minimum (~2.5 kHz) and the board layout.


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #387 on: July 11, 2015, 07:59:41 AM »
Well, here are the scopeshots at maximum (~272 kHz) and minimum (~2.5 kHz) and the board layout.



Wow, thank you for that detailed imagery.  I've been poking around with Babcock's switching technology.  I'm trying to get everything as close to right as possible before I start buying semiconductors.  This helps a lot as to what my options are.


I think I've figured out some novelties in the SERPS based off of Eric Dollard's description of EMF vs electrostatic voltage.  It lines up with the hints that Paul and Jim have given us.  Jim hints that his circuit is operating on a distinction between EMF, E, and electrostatic voltage, e.  Paul mentions that a center tapped transformer is key to getting 'magic' to happen.  Mark Mckay's interview with Paul indicates the SERPS was originally designed with two loads (Two loads lumped into one at the 2014 conference, hence two light bulbs).  These details are key in the theory that I'm about to lay out.


Let's take a look at some simple circuit diagrams.  First we have a few different capacitor arrangements, this all being analyzed simply by using Psi = eC, lines of dielectric force.


Single Capacitor
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/Single%20Cap_zps8jvtj6sv.png)
e = 10 volts, C = 10 Farad
Psi = 10v*10F = 100 Lines of Dielectric Force


Two Capacitors in Parallel
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/Parallel%20Caps_zpso1hxyofr.png)
e1 = 10 volts, C1 = 10 Farad, e2 = 10 volts, C2 = 10 Farad
Psi = 10v*(10F + 10F) = 10v*20F = 200 Lines of Dielectric Force


Two Capacitors in Series
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/Series%20Caps_zpsy9g4wdwo.png)
e1 = 10 volts, C1 = 10 Farad, e2 = 10 volts, C2 = 10 Farad
Psi = (10v+10v)*((10F*10F)/(10F + 10F)) = 20v*5F = 100 Lines of Dielectric Force


WE'VE LOST HALF THE CHARGE!!!


You can clearly see that discharging capacitors in this configuration forfeits 1/2 of the lines of dielectric force.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/Series%20Caps%20Windings_zpsrjknoaro.png)


However, in this configuration where the center tap is used, there is a mathematical conservation of dielectric lines of force in the total system by separating into two conjoined systems.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/Series%20Caps%20CT%20Windings_zpsifmagdae.png)


Although this conservation of charge doesn't show any difference in RC time constants of the total system, it does beg the question of what exactly it was that Jim Murray was speaking of when he spoke about needing to know the difference between the EMF, E, and voltage, e, in the generator windings.  See video reference: [size=78%]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-chHnLyHVF8[/size]  9:20-10:25


It would seem that there is some type of conservation in a force going on that has otherwise been taken for granted.  The interactions of the quadrapolar forms of electricity, { E, e, I, i }, are probably doing something novel,  especially since I=Dielectric Lines of force divided by time, Psi/t.  Right now, I am unable to take any theoretical ideas to the next level due to my overall lack in understanding, but this is worth investigating on the bench since it is the only thing novel that I've found that engenders all of the tips and hints that Paul and Jim have given us.


Here is a proposal of how they pulled off the DC measurements of the load at the 2014 conference.
(http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j365/web000x/DC%20Load%20Measure_zpszblhutuf.png)


I have been wanting to build this for months but have been really looking into the details since and have been patient so far.  Finally, I'm at a point where I want to buy semiconductors and unexpected bills hit.  Yay...  This is me giving this idea to you guys so that maybe someone who is better equipped than I can take this forward.  And I need this thread to light back up.  This is the one for which we've been waiting.


Dave


PS   Pictures are in order relative to the links above.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #388 on: July 11, 2015, 08:02:04 AM »
If anybody knows how to insert images into your posts instead of links or lumping all of the pics at the bottom, let me know.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #389 on: July 11, 2015, 12:18:59 PM »
10 F at 10v is 100 watts over one second ! but if you pules it a compression wave is produced and its nothing with the dielectric or rather the dynamic harmonic response ! the term for dielectric is now out dated as all emf is in fact just resonance and that is just harmonic boundaries of force !

There is a mass density increase and is why you get more lights per charge ect ! That is due to the event horizons on the electrons attempting to increase in the out side diameter ... That means that there event horizon is speeding up ! Keep it simple and dump the data bomb ! This is a matter of quantum mechanics not electrical engineering ....

The event horizon for an electron is spinning at 10% to the speed of light, but if you  increase the speed than its obvious you have gained power but not more energy ! power and energy are not the same. That may sound nuts but in fact its true power is the total mass over speed energy is the conversion of the power.

The central EQ position for the pulse connection is important but its not as good as a set of harmonic positions set out in quantized values along the central harmonic plane on the inside diameter of the coils ! Also adding other free electrons from priming the primary coils with silver gold platinum is most advisable !

I am building 10 , 1 000 000 watt advanced systems of this kind ! Also the dynamic interphase for electron density along the harmonic is quantized by default between the fth note dynamic of electron scales ! you need to know the quanta of electrons per mm of wire and the distance between them .. This set up only works with DC pulse input with the correct cap banks ! look at the wire as string rather than a length of resistance !

The end result is always 10 times more kinetic power available and no more than that ! But the energy conversion of the power depends dramatically on the values of harmonic receiving loads ! A load is also a string !

Sorry to sound like mr know it all but in fact I do hahah

ATOM1