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Author Topic: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,  (Read 201229 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #240 on: August 01, 2014, 12:51:19 AM »
TinselKoala
see now in the patent clearly states: Reactive power input =33,5VA, Active power out =25,3W, power consumption from grid =1,16W, Is not that this proof?
Of course it is not proof. Show me Thane Heins's electric bills for the past six months. If they are zero, or a negative number... That would be proof. Of something....

 :P

Or you can tell us the story of his laboratory at the University in Canada. Why is he no longer working there?

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #241 on: August 01, 2014, 01:13:12 AM »
Of course it is not proof. Show me Thane Heins's electric bills for the past six months. If they are zero, or a negative number... That would be proof. Of something....

 :P

Or you can tell us the story of his laboratory at the University in Canada. Why is he no longer working there?
I already said: May not to please him of such like you!, because whatever i show you, you again will not be you pleased and happy
« Last Edit: August 01, 2014, 06:14:36 AM by x_name41 »

Offline Farmhand

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #242 on: August 02, 2014, 12:50:15 AM »
TinselKoala
see now in the patent clearly states: Reactive power input =33,5VA, Active power out =25,3W, power consumption from grid =1,16W, Is not that this proof?

That is not a patent, that is a "Patent Application", anyone can apply for a patent for anything even if it doesn't work.
It's a favorite ploy of scammers to make a patent "application" so as to try to give their device legitimacy in order
to get investment from not so savvy investors.

Basically the patent application is not worth the paper it's written on. It shows no proof, it's just another claim made by Mr Heins.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #242 on: August 02, 2014, 12:50:15 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #243 on: August 02, 2014, 02:15:03 AM »
so, you are already two trolls! It was a test which issue you, and how much yet there is such as you?
you deny the obvious, in this way you you are to the detriment on this board because you indicate symptoms of the serious mental health problem, and need to you are being

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #244 on: August 02, 2014, 03:21:02 AM »
In order to see for sure if Thanes BiTT is OU you just need to try to run it from a pure sine wave inverter powered from a 12 volt
battery and monitor the battery output as well as the AC meters and such while the experiments are under way. Then tally up the
energy used and the energy output as intended output in the load resistor, the load resistor should have it's temperature
monitored as well. I'd say his measurement protocol and execution are not accurate.

Thanes BiTT is not a generator, it uses the grid as a power supply and he disregards all costs involved in providing his input as well.

Build one run it from a battery and make free power why don't you ?

Rather than abuse and accuse. Why not do something ?

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #244 on: August 02, 2014, 03:21:02 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #245 on: August 02, 2014, 01:18:40 PM »
In order to see for sure if Thanes BiTT is OU you just need to try to run it from a pure sine wave inverter powered from a 12 volt
battery and monitor the battery output as well as the AC meters and such while the experiments are under way. Then tally up the
energy used and the energy output as intended output in the load resistor, the load resistor should have it's temperature
monitored as well. I'd say his measurement protocol and execution are not accurate.

Thanes BiTT is not a generator, it uses the grid as a power supply and he disregards all costs involved in providing his input as well.

Build one run it from a battery and make free power why don't you ?

Rather than abuse and accuse. Why not do something ?

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and sample of the tar, don't you want?

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #246 on: August 02, 2014, 02:07:34 PM »
In order to see for sure if Thanes BiTT is OU you just need to try to run it from a pure sine wave inverter powered from a 12 volt
battery and monitor the battery output as well as the AC meters and such while the experiments are under way. Then tally up the
energy used and the energy output as intended output in the load resistor, the load resistor should have it's temperature
monitored as well. I'd say his measurement protocol and execution are not accurate.

Thanes BiTT is not a generator, it uses the grid as a power supply and he disregards all costs involved in providing his input as well.

Build one run it from a battery and make free power why don't you ?

Rather than abuse and accuse. Why not do something ?

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Everything seems simple .... for those who have resources available, is more simple,I have no doubt.
Maybe you can provide a pure sine wave inverter to x_name41 to test.;) all tests you say !

What I mean by this is that it is easier said than practice without passing the abundance of resources.
We can not forget that most people do this as a hobby and not as a full time job (I wish).
The effort of the people should not be underestimated but rather used to improve the understanding of some phenomena.
This may not be an activity where only the elite few can recreate these tests because have resources.
My resources are low and try to adapt materials that would normally go to waste I think it is also a way to involve more people with fewer resources and give them the opportunity to engage in this area.
Never forget that almost all of these phenomena have been discovered and recreated without the use of present available technology .

I also need a pure sine wave inverter to test some things I have in mind, but it is not easy to get $ to buy one.
I think people like  x_name41  not spending resources and time to fool anyone; what is the idea?

I could have the same opinion of those who only live to criticize without ever recreated some of these tests to verify its veracity.



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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Offline Farmhand

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #247 on: August 02, 2014, 03:40:18 PM »
Well I don't want anything really.

But as for the inverter a cheap 150 Watt inverter can be got for quite cheap, you could then apply a filter to the output to
get a sine wave from it. The wrong load would likely fry it or shut it down or blow a fuse.

The suggestion was mainly to point out  that Thane does not even provide his own input power he relies on the grid.
Why is that you may ask.

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Offline x_name41

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #248 on: August 02, 2014, 04:48:29 PM »
Well I don't want anything really.

But as for the inverter a cheap 150 Watt inverter can be got for quite cheap, you could then apply a filter to the output to
get a sine wave from it. The wrong load would likely fry it or shut it down or blow a fuse.

The suggestion was mainly to point out  that Thane does not even provide his own input power he relies on the grid.
Why is that you may ask.

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Farmhand calmly I can tell you that you are idiot, my conscience is clear!

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #248 on: August 02, 2014, 04:48:29 PM »
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Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #249 on: August 02, 2014, 06:09:29 PM »
Well I don't want anything really.

But as for the inverter a cheap 150 Watt inverter can be got for quite cheap, you could then apply a filter to the output to
get a sine wave from it. The wrong load would likely fry it or shut it down or blow a fuse.

The suggestion was mainly to point out  that Thane does not even provide his own input power he relies on the grid.
Why is that you may ask.

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Hello Farmhand, and how I'll do a convenient filter to get a sine wave  without oscilloscope?
And how will I buy an inverter with a measly salary € 410 for the whole month to pay family home etc?
Look it's not that simple ... But thanks for the tip
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #250 on: August 02, 2014, 07:29:25 PM »
Wow, I see all you guys are very busy replicating the SERPS…. ;)


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #250 on: August 02, 2014, 07:29:25 PM »
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Offline listener191

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #251 on: August 02, 2014, 10:18:30 PM »
All,

Attached are scope shots showing the composite switching signals overlaid on a 50Hz sine. I provided a composite switching output to make it easier to set up using just a two channel scope.
I am experimenting with two caps which are individually charged in each rising quadrant and individually discharged into each falling quadrant.

At the moment I have the timing circuit set to replicate the timing shown in the SERPS presentation. All pots would benefit being 470K, which would allow complete range coverage without series trimming resistors.

The 4050 buffer shown, is so I can also use my more complicated comparitor based zero cross circuit, which is powered by a +15V rail. This circuit is very accurate and stable over a large voltage range.

The opto based zero cross circuit has been simplified but I had to reduce the input resistors to provide enough current to saturate the opto diodes at 110V 50Hz input. I have run this up to 220V without problem.

I am using two switches initially but I have space on my switching board for 4 isolated bidirectional switches.

Barry

Offline listener191

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #252 on: August 02, 2014, 10:29:37 PM »
Should have posted this later circuit which has positive zero cross pulses about 500uS wide.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #253 on: August 03, 2014, 03:56:21 AM »
Farmhand calmly I can tell you that you are idiot, my conscience is clear!

I'm happy for you on that. Your opinion of me is irrelevant. You would be better served to take off the rose colored glasses when
assessing other peoples claims. Thane has no OU he never had any OU, his regenerative acceleration is bogus and so is his BiTT.

All reactive power is a portion of the apparent power provided by the power supply. Even if it is used it is paid for. The instant any
reactive power is used it is converted to real power and is consumed.

Think about that. 

I can measure several hundred Watts of oscillating - reactive power in a simple setup with only 2 or 3 Watts input, but it's not
real power, my case is to the extreme end of the spectrum, I measure ie. 240 volts RMS and 1.3 Amps RMS with a phase angle
of 40 degrees. so that 240 x 1.3 = 312 Watts, the cosine of 40 degrees is 0.76 which is the power factor.
So 312 x 0.76 = 237 Watts of measured real power, but that power is not actually real power, it's just activity,
If I tap even 1 Watt from the tank (with 2 Watts input) the oscillating power drops to much less. If I tap even close to the same
power out as is input the activity drops to minimal.

Now if I can measure 300 or 400 Watts that does not exist in a setup with less than 2 Watts input from a 12 volt DC supply, then
it is possible to show all kinds of stuff.

Simply put either the SERPS is a case of deception of incorrect measurement or it's the biggest revelation in modern times, you
decide which is the most probable. 

All reactive power is a portion of the applied apparent power, and as soon as any reactive power is phase corrected and powers
a load it becomes real power by definition, which is consumed and paid for. So says reality, common sense and logic.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #254 on: August 03, 2014, 04:37:36 AM »
so, you are already two trolls! It was a test which issue you, and how much yet there is such as you?
you deny the obvious, in this way you you are to the detriment on this board because you indicate symptoms of the serious mental health problem, and need to you are being
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