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Author Topic: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,  (Read 200134 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #90 on: July 13, 2014, 10:37:43 PM »
I think it is most important to just only switch on the caps for a short moment
during the first quadrant and not the full 90 degrees.

Also it could be good to match the TAU values of the charge and discharge, so
Tau1=Tau2 = R1xC1=R2xC2

So during charging, you half the load resistor ( 2 lamps in parallel) and during
discharge you put the 2 lamps in series..


Is nobody here, who was at the conference and wittnessed JimĀ“s presentation ?
Were there any block diagrams shown ?

I bought today the Dynaflux video
http://bit.ly/dynaflux
but it only has another demonstration to
the older dynaflux generator ( which by the way is also very interesting !)
and the SERPS circuit video shown is the same
as the free video posted by Aaron.

I hope Aaron will soon have the presentation video ready from the conference.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2014, 02:24:37 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #91 on: July 13, 2014, 10:45:34 PM »
I posted these in another thread as an illustration of a particular point, but it seems that they are even more relevant here.

Below:
1. Test setup, showing zero-wire power transmission to receiver, as tested.
2. DC input power: verified as straight DC, no ripple, voltage and current values shown on DMMs were verified on oscilloscope using 1 ohm CVR
3. Output measurements: V across transmitting loop, I as Vdrop across 0.25 ohm precision non-inductive Ayrton-Perry-wound current viewing resistor in series with loop
4. Phase relationship in output V and I

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2014, 11:02:02 PM »
Hi All,
Link: http://realstrannik.ru/forum/22-elektronika-interesnye-i-redkie-sxemy/11484-ekonomiya-elektroenergii-ot-electrofuck.html?start=378


Regards

Heh... it looks like folks are well on the way to inventing the solid-state inverse Marx bank.....
 ;)

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #92 on: July 13, 2014, 11:02:02 PM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #93 on: July 14, 2014, 02:12:10 AM »
TK, what do your postings have to do with the Murray SERPS circuit ?
What is your circuit diagram ?

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #94 on: July 14, 2014, 05:30:57 AM »
Heh... it looks like folks are well on the way to inventing the solid-state inverse Marx bank.....
 ;)
Hi TinselKoala,
yes, this device provides energy consumption load but kWh meter (not running) makes people look at and think that it is a device (used to deceive meters). however with a bit of analysis it's working principles to consider, there are interesting things. . .   :D

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #95 on: July 14, 2014, 06:45:22 AM »
TK, what do your postings have to do with the Murray SERPS circuit ?
What is your circuit diagram ?

"MY" circuit diagram was posted, twice, or perhaps 2 1/2 times, on the previous page of this thread, by x_name41. Some of my component values are different but the circuit is the same: a ZVS Royer-Mazilli type autoresonating circuit. Just get rid of the Red Herring "bi toroid" which is a wasteful power sink, and the "primary" becomes your transmission loop (with the 3-parallel spiral heavy conductor construction, or even copper pipe) and the reactive power accumulates by resonance and circulates within the tank circuit formed by that loop and its capacitors. I don't know what a Murray SERPS circuit is supposed to be, but I've clearly shown you a working, battery powered "Reactive Power Energy Source Generator". And it uses the same schematic but different component values from what has been posted in this thread by someone else, without anyone complaining.

Not only that but my remote wireless receiver "converts VARs" into usable power that is dissipated in the light bulb.

But please, if all that is off-topic, I apologize, don't let me distract you.



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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #96 on: July 14, 2014, 07:08:10 AM »
Quote from: havuhung
...people look at and think that it is a device (used to deceive meters).

Most power company provided KiloWatt Hour Meters have the
ability to distinguish True Power (Real Power) from Reactive
Power and therefore are able to develop consumption numbers
for billing purposes which are accurate.

If in fact this device electronically produces Voltage and Current
relationships to simulate Reactive Power in order to confuse the
meter so as to avoid consumption based billing then it is a case of
deception.

Where does the power dissipated at the load actually come from?
Is it grid derived power or is it produced by some sort of Magic
within the device independent of the grid?

The exotic waveforms produced by the device would lead one to
suspect that it is in reality deception at work...

It would be interesting to see what sort of evaluation would be
rendered by Power Company Engineers.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #97 on: July 14, 2014, 07:31:34 AM »
Most power company provided KiloWatt Hour Meters have the
ability to distinguish True Power (Real Power) from Reactive
Power and therefore are able to develop consumption numbers
for billing purposes which are accurate.

If in fact this device electronically produces Voltage and Current
relationships to simulate Reactive Power in order to confuse the
meter so as to avoid consumption based billing then it is a case of
deception.

Where does the power dissipated at the load actually come from?
Is it grid derived power or is it produced by some sort of Magic
within the device independent of the grid?

The exotic waveforms produced by the device would lead one to
suspect that it is in reality deception at work...

It would be interesting to see what sort of evaluation would be
rendered by Power Company Engineers.
Traditional residential meters, the kind with the spinning disk are very immune to power factor variations.  They read true power with very good accuracy.  The new smart meters calculate: imaginary power, VA (apparent power), and real power.  Real power is never greater than apparent power.  If the power company starts billing residences for apparent power, residential bills will go higher.  Adding phase shifting capacitors or coils that take the PF further away from 1.0 will only make bills go up.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #98 on: July 14, 2014, 09:48:01 AM »
"MY" circuit diagram was posted, twice, or perhaps 2 1/2 times, on the previous page of this thread, by x_name41. Some of my component values are different but the circuit is the same: a ZVS Royer-Mazilli type autoresonating circuit. Just get rid of the Red Herring "bi toroid" which is a wasteful power sink, and the "primary" becomes your transmission loop (with the 3-parallel spiral heavy conductor construction, or even copper pipe) and the reactive power accumulates by resonance and circulates within the tank circuit formed by that loop and its capacitors. I don't know what a Murray SERPS circuit is supposed to be, but I've clearly shown you a working, battery powered "Reactive Power Energy Source Generator". And it uses the same schematic but different component values from what has been posted in this thread by someone else, without anyone complaining.

Not only that but my remote wireless receiver "converts VARs" into usable power that is dissipated in the light bulb.

But please, if all that is off-topic, I apologize, don't let me distract you.

Interesting a sort of near field resonant coupling but I guess it's not OU, the second coil couple and pump power from primary...

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #99 on: July 14, 2014, 12:36:20 PM »
Traditional residential meters, the kind with the spinning disk are very immune to power factor variations.  They read true power with very good accuracy. 

No so MarkE. They can be fooled like most meters today.

Example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPKz7uEq-8

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #100 on: July 14, 2014, 02:12:08 PM »
"MY" circuit diagram was posted, twice, or perhaps 2 1/2 times, on the previous page of this thread, by x_name41. Some of my component values are different but the circuit is the same: a ZVS Royer-Mazilli type autoresonating circuit. Just get rid of the Red Herring "bi toroid" which is a wasteful power sink, and the "primary" becomes your transmission loop (with the 3-parallel spiral heavy conductor construction, or even copper pipe) and the reactive power accumulates by resonance and circulates within the tank circuit formed by that loop and its capacitors. I don't know what a Murray SERPS circuit is supposed to be, but I've clearly shown you a working, battery powered "Reactive Power Energy Source Generator". And it uses the same schematic but different component values from what has been posted in this thread by someone else, without anyone complaining.

Not only that but my remote wireless receiver "converts VARs" into usable power that is dissipated in the light bulb.

But please, if all that is off-topic, I apologize, don't let me distract you.
I see there is commonality in the extraction of the VAR energy. The Russian device is similar.
Which thread are you posting this on? What's the COP you're getting with your RPESG VAR device?
Thanks, Wayne


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #101 on: July 14, 2014, 11:22:35 PM »
Hi Stefan,

It looks like your rendition of the SERPS schematic is headed in the right direction. I also did a circuit simulation of the setup according to your circuit idea and timings. Below is the code and a screenshot.

$ 1 5.0E-6 15.472767971186109 50 5.0 50
v 304 192 304 128 0 1 60.0 177.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 304 128 352 128 0
w 352 192 304 192 0
c 576 96 576 160 0 9.999999999999999E-6 -2.876241427016669
c 640 160 640 224 0 9.999999999999999E-6 -2.876241427016668
159 576 160 640 160 0 0.1 1.0E10
159 640 160 640 96 0 0.1 1.0E10
159 576 224 576 160 0 0.1 1.0E10
w 576 224 640 224 0
w 576 96 640 96 0
w 688 336 688 128 0
w 608 176 608 272 0
T 352 128 432 192 0 7.0362 1.0 1.3743310087148544 -1.3178404103425827 0.999
r 464 96 544 96 0 100.0
w 544 96 576 96 0
w 464 96 432 96 0
w 432 96 432 128 0
w 432 192 432 224 0
w 432 224 576 224 0
w 656 128 688 128 0
w 592 336 688 336 0
w 592 192 592 272 0
w 608 272 608 400 0
150 496 400 592 400 0 2 0.0
150 496 336 592 336 0 2 5.0
w 592 400 608 400 0
w 496 352 496 416 0
w 384 320 496 320 0
R 368 320 304 320 1 2 120.0 2.5 2.5 -1.0471975511965976 0.33333300000000005
R 368 384 304 384 1 2 120.0 2.5 2.5 -3.490658503988659 0.33333300000000005
x 203 329 282 335 0 24 Charge
x 175 390 283 396 0 24 Discharge
152 416 416 496 416 0 2 5.0
w 496 384 400 384 0
w 400 384 400 432 0
w 416 432 400 432 0
w 368 384 400 384 0
w 384 320 384 400 0
w 384 400 416 400 0
w 368 320 384 320 0
w 592 272 592 336 0
o 0 32 0 289 320.0 1.6 0 -1
o 0 32 1 291 320.0 9.765625E-5 1 -1
o 13 32 0 289 160.0 1.6 2 -1
o 13 32 1 35 320.0 9.765625E-5 3 -1

The waveforms I'm getting look almost exactly like what is shown in the original waveform captures from the conference, with the waveshapes and polarities matching pretty much right on (I also attached a copy of the screenshot again for reference/convenience). The only thing is that the return power going back to the grid, in the simulation, is much smaller then what they are showing on their scope traces. This is likely a matter of tuning the circuit component values, but I figured this simulation would be a good starting point for everyone to play with component values.

As a note, the two graphs on the left show the AC source's input current and power while the graphs on the right show the current and power consumption on the load resistor. In the simulation, Negative power on the AC source represents power flowing out, and positive power represents power flowing back into the AC source from the circuit.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2014, 02:30:59 AM »
Hi Jason and all,
well done.
Maybe you can modify the circuit again, so that during charging we have 50 Ohms and during
discharge we have 100 Ohms as the load resistor ?
(or the other way around ?)
(Babcock and Murray uses 2 Lamps as the load and I guess they are also switching them...
otherwise they could just have used only 1 lamp...)

Please see, if you could get almost equal energy pulses as input and output this way ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2014, 03:25:13 AM »
By the way here is a free video from the recent 2014 Bedini Energy Science conference.
It is the panel discussion where also Murray and Babcock took part.
It is free, if you subscribe to Aarons Newsletter.
Here is the link to it:

http://bit.ly/bedini2014

I am just  watching it, it is pretty interesting.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2014, 06:29:50 AM »
Nice work Stefan for working out how it's done, the sims match the scope shot wave forms quite well.

Just wondering though if the power charging the capacitors is being measured as output as well as the power when they discharge.

As the capacitors charge through the lamps the lamps would be seeing a reducing voltage across them.

Are we sure the sim is measuring the power output correctly ?

Should the power that charges the caps be measured as output?

I think the power from the cap discharge should be measured as output, but I don't think both charging and discharging of
the caps should be measured as output.

Just wondering.


 

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