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Author Topic: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,  (Read 197579 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2014, 06:43:15 AM »
SeaMonkey you are wrong !

You can just use a 120 Volts AC producing 60 Hz sine wave oscillator battery driven or via a supercap, 
that outputs
1 Watts of output power ( and needs maybe only 2 Watts itsself)  into this SERPS Babcock Murray circuit and instead of the
lamps you use a feedback circuit back to the oscillator and get this thing thus to selfrun.

At COP=50 this should be no real problem...

Regards, Stefan.



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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2014, 07:31:49 AM »
I would love to be wrong on this.  We shall see.

Is the COP of the device Real or is it Trickery?

I cannot imagine how it would power itself, even
after being started from the grid...

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2014, 07:51:14 AM »
Hi All,
The issue here really is hard to judge! . . I'm really looking forward to a sufficiently detailed picture of this device or is an exact circuit schematic and it really is!


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2014, 10:09:26 AM »
I made many crazy circuits in my life. I was more into the mechanical OU because I have a sure bet design right now, and I like big HP

I really shouldnt be distracted by parallel projects, But there is no beating raw cheapness of electronics.

From oscillators to logic to microcontroller to switch setups, I am up for a try.

Brg forward more info so that I see exactly what I must do, a nice prezi with diagrams and colors.


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2014, 01:11:26 PM »
In the new Babcock-Murray Serps circuit presented at the Bedini 2014 conference
the actual line input AC voltage is regular 60 Hz sine wave.

They did not publish this in the first left scopeshot, cause that would have given the
timing away...but the comparison of both scopeshots gives it away anyway, so that is why I wrote
it was an eye opener...

I think I know now, how it is working.
I pondered all day long now about it.

Imagine a sine 60 Hz wave input.
One cycle is 0 to 360 degrees.

It seems they just charge 2 caps in parallel via the lamps load from 30 to 90 degrees from the line voltage.
After this they electronically disconnect the 2 caps and put them in series
and at around 100 degrees , they discharge the 2 series caps back to the line voltage  versus the lamps again to about 160 degrees.
This way they have double the sine peak voltage to be able to discharge the 2 series caps and drive negative current back to the grid
through the lamps !

Then the same thing happens for the negative half wave of the sine wave.

At around 210 degrees the 2 caps are again switched in Parallel into the line voltage via the lamps in series and charged
until around 270 degrees up to the peak voltage of the 60 Hz sine wave.
Then at 280 degrees, the 2 caps are put in series and again discharged via the lamps back to the grid until around 340 degrees.
So again energy is returned to grid via the lamps as the load.

It is basically a very easy circuit, but you have to have the right timing and the right load impedance (lamp resistance in Ohm in this case),
so that the areas in the input power MATH trace above and
below the ground line are about equal.

So you minimize the real active input power and try to get the aparent input power
the same as the reactive input power. If you get it right, you will only have reactive input power
and almost no Real active input power. Thus a COP of about 50 as they have shown at the conference can be real !

Great circuit !

Regards, Stefan.

Problem I've never heard that putting cap to series/parallel can give OU, the energy state still the same because capacitance reduce when put in series...

That being said, Hector Perez (the guy with his rotoverter) claimed in special resonant configuration, that you can extract real power from the reactive one, playing with phase (usually three phase power) is the key.
According to him he reversed current in the battery through the inverter ("reverse" power factor correction).
The load and the inductor act "negative" but a lot of impedance matching is necessary.
In the "combine" PDF you can read that is when R is at current node it's powered by "radiant energy" full light with 1/10 of the input voltage...
This theory is worth what it worth...
Anyway I would like to see a schematic of that circuit before making my definitive opinion.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2014, 07:16:37 PM »
But you've never heard... It dont matter what you heard, this is groundbreaking tech of course you would of never heard of this.

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They provide power readings, surrounded by big shot engineer millionaires.

This is not to be taken lightly, obviously they have something.

If Stephan, with his ''conventionnal understanding'' can see clearly the process, then It surely must be ''comprehensible concept''.

It shouldnt take long for someone to make a condensed informative prezi.

Stephan, state clearly what should be done plz.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2014, 11:17:21 PM »
Here is a quick basic circuit diagramm.
The switches must be replaced by MOSFET switches with the right timing and
control circuits.
But this shows how 2 caps can be put in series or in parallel.

I still pondering, why they did use 2 lamps as the load.
Maybe they are also switching the 2 lamps once in series and
then in parallel to have a different load resistor and thus control the charge
and discharge current better to get about equal areas in the input power
MATH trace, so the Real Active input power is minimized and only reactive power
is drawn ( just oscillating power).

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2014, 11:48:07 PM »
Here is the circuit with timing diagram.

Shown under the i(t) current waveform are the switched that are closed
in this timeframe.
so S1 S2 S4 means switch S1, S2 and S4 are closed.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2014, 02:45:21 AM »
Stefan what do you mean by the circle with the X in it?  That normally symbolizes a multiplier.  Do you mean that to be an AC voltage source?

Anyway, charge shuttling / balancing circuits have been around for a long time for use in DC systems.  For AC the switches and drivers get more complicated.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2014, 04:17:04 AM »
I already knew the answer MarkE but just so there wouldn't be any argument about it here's top of the Google

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2014, 06:41:23 AM »
I already knew the answer MarkE but just so there wouldn't be any argument about it here's top of the Google
In over three decades in the business I have never seen a circle with an X in it used for a light bulb.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2014, 09:52:06 AM »
In over three decades in the business I have never seen a circle with an X in it used for a light bulb.
It threw me at first too, but apparently it is fairly common in Russia. I was thinking "valve?" Whaaat? It makes no sense really, but there it is.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2014, 11:13:29 AM »
In over three decades in the business I have never seen a circle with an X in it used for a light bulb.


Mark,


See:http://www.edrawsoft.com/electrical-symbols.php


This symbol for a lamp was and is still commonly used in the UK.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2014, 11:44:11 AM »
It's European notation (the X), in my country (France) we use also this symbol.

@Harti
Thanks for the schemtic I undertsand it better: first it charge in the first quadrant via the load then it discharge always via the load in the second quadrant same things but it reverse for the third and fourth quadrant...
Eric Dollard Four Quadrant theory ?
Energy from Sqrt(-1) ?
So the energy stored in cap and the other dissipated in R must be equal or superior in the cap...
Putting in series for the discharge, help to discharge fast by reversing the curent back to source...
Then, I guess that the green curve is I.
Thanks.

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2014, 12:57:15 PM »
Hi All,

about half a year ago I saw this idea (shown below),
subjective judgments, I suppose it does not work! . .   :)

 

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