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Author Topic: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,  (Read 203256 times)

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #255 on: August 03, 2014, 06:28:32 AM »
Hi Barry,


that is great work, thank you!


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #256 on: August 03, 2014, 06:52:17 AM »
Barry,


I see there's no DIL-6 version of the LTC6993, do you happen to know if there is an equivalent in that shape?


regards,
Mario

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #257 on: August 03, 2014, 09:39:34 AM »
Hi Mario,

I used the SOT-23 version and mounted the LTC6993's on a DIL adaptor boards.

A lot of devices are going  to surface mount packages, which makes it harder to prototype.

The pulse width LTC6993,s are -3 variants which are falling edge triggered. This means the pulse starts on the back edge of the delay pulses.

Attached is a photo of the timing board mounted in an ABS box. Also a photo showing the pots mounted on the lid.

Pots mounted directly on the board would be better, as there is some jitter due to pickup on the long wires. Its only 1-2us but enough to upset the scope trigger. The scope trigger I take from of the zero cross inputs. 

The controls need to be labeled, after I finish playing with the trimming resistors.

Barry

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #257 on: August 03, 2014, 09:39:34 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #258 on: August 03, 2014, 09:42:28 AM »
Missed a photo!

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #259 on: August 03, 2014, 11:38:07 AM »
Hi Berry,


an adaptor sounds good, thanks. Nice setup you have. I was wondering, is there a way to have the 4 signals separated or combined in 1-2 and 3-4? I don't know how you are going to switch, but in my setup I need them like that (attached is a drawing, never mind the tranny symbols, they're mosfets). Until now I've been working on this setup with the sine wave and the 4 control signals recorded on multitrack (on computer) and then routed to an audio amp feeding the transformer and the control signals to my switching circuit.


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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #259 on: August 03, 2014, 11:38:07 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #260 on: August 03, 2014, 12:39:27 PM »
Hi Mario,

I am using the same two cap setup and same two bidirectional switches as your scheme. I switch both mosfets in the switch on or off, I dont switch them individually.

If you want to switch each mosfet individually then instead of combining the pulse triggers with an OR gate, they would need to trigger individual pulse monostables, so 2 extra LTC6993-3's would be required.

The direction of current flow through the switch i.e. charging or discharging depends on potential difference between the cap and where on the sine you switch.

See attached photo... Cap 1 is charged on a positive rising half sine and then discharged on the negative falling half sine. Cap 2 is charged on the negative rising half sine and then discharged on the positive falling half sine.

Barry

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #261 on: August 03, 2014, 01:52:49 PM »
Hi Barry,


ok, I see. Yes, in the end the result is the same :)


thanks,
Mario

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #261 on: August 03, 2014, 01:52:49 PM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #262 on: August 04, 2014, 10:22:47 PM »
Hi Mario,

 The 1,4,3,2 sequence did not work for me, with voltage and current staying in phase.

I can now see that the discharge in the 2nd and 4th quadrants immediately after charging in the 1st and 3rd quadrants, is the action that creates the 90 degree phase shift in current with respect to voltage. This was very clear in your photo IMG-16933.

I will use the attached SERPS timing circuit rev, that pulses the quadrants in a 1,2,3,4 sequence.  Looking at this arrangement... what is the difference between this and just allowing each cap to charge and discharge over a half cycle?


I am using a 100W line amplifier that outputs about 185V rms max. Its safer to experiment with this source first.

I have a transformer built from two MOT cores. The lower core has two MOT primaries in series. The two coils increase the inductance and drop the magnetising current .This allows continuous running. Microwave ovens only run for short periods and a single coil will get hot due to the small magnetics and minimal turns.
 On the upper core, I have two more MOT primary coils that can be wired in series or parallel. In my case that will give me a secondary with 110 or 220V. This is a cheap high power isolated transformer solution.

Usual warnings to all.. dont try this unless you have experience with high voltage work.

Barry

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #263 on: August 04, 2014, 11:11:07 PM »
Hi Barry,


theoretically speaking the sequence you have tried and the 1234 sequence should give the same result. Weird. So you are not getting a similar wave to mine? Or what do you mean by it didn't work for you? That you didn't see a consumption drop in your amp?


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Mario

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #263 on: August 04, 2014, 11:11:07 PM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #264 on: August 05, 2014, 12:37:13 AM »
Hi Mario,

The only difference is with 1,4,3,2 the discharge is into the opposite polarity, (and this resulted in the current staying in phase with the voltage. With 1,2,3,4   the discharge is into the same polarity.

Barry

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #265 on: August 05, 2014, 12:44:53 AM »
Hi Mario,

Did you have an additional inductor in series with the load?

Barry

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #265 on: August 05, 2014, 12:44:53 AM »
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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #266 on: August 05, 2014, 09:31:00 AM »
Hi Barry, no inductors, only light bulbs for now.


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Mario

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #267 on: August 05, 2014, 11:01:19 PM »
Hi Mario,

This is with 1,2,3,4 switching.

Not seeing phase shift?

Barry

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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #268 on: August 05, 2014, 11:15:58 PM »
Hi Mario,

The only difference I can see is that both my switches are turned on during 2 and 4. On yours only the discharge switch is turned on during 2 and 4.



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Re: COP 20.00 (2000%) Times, Reactive Power Energy Source Generator,
« Reply #269 on: August 06, 2014, 12:32:43 AM »
Hi Mario,

Which side of your transformer are you monitoring voltage on?

Barry

 

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