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Author Topic: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy  (Read 16031 times)

gmbajszar

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Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« on: May 07, 2014, 04:53:32 AM »
If you look at the last drawing on my page, you see how water can be moved up a hill.

http://gmbajszar.wix.com/mbcim#!mouse-wheel-perpetual-motion-machine/cgbn

The box filled with water pulls down, so that produces sucking. We use hoses, but see the picture.

I also have a few working perpetual motion machine concepts toward the bottom of the page,
but need studying the pictures to understand.

This is the first time water can be moved up a hill.

George
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Marsing

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2014, 06:57:33 AM »

Can you post your drawing here,

water move up a hill is nature phenomena.  :)
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gmbajszar

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2014, 07:43:58 AM »
Sure, the concept for water sent up a mountain is here.

Notice a second box inside a box that pulls down with water in it, which then forms a pump that pulls the water up from the neighboring boxes.

George
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Marsing

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2014, 08:36:08 AM »

i don't know,

if there is air in your original drawing, probably your system will end like this. because air is compressible and expandable.
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gmbajszar

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2014, 08:47:50 AM »
The concept would work, but one has to see that a box is made of two boxes. The lower box pulls down with water in it. Water pours in from above, and the whole system is air tight. Gravity pulls water up through them through a hose. Water comes in at the top because there is a ton of water resting below and creates tremendous pull through the hose. The pull helps water rise in the hose that comes from the bottom of the box to the right. Only water can come out from the bottom of the box. Air cannot pass to the neighboring box.

George
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forest

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2014, 09:37:33 AM »
I agree..it works..some time.... ;D
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Marsing

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2014, 09:38:24 AM »
 ;D
« Last Edit: May 07, 2014, 04:24:09 PM by Marsing »
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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2014, 10:23:20 AM »
   Hi George !
I think that you can test easy one of your sketches ( lever+wheel ) , playing variable leverage ( a kind of "automata seesaw" ).
There is a lot of proposals , you can read in this forum section , about variable leverage : " Unbalanced weight scale....", "Automat seesaw..." and many others .
The main idea is to play variable leverage and especially to TEST it.
As you know , the diversity of levers (1,2,3 class) opens a large area to play them as self-running gravity powered devices.
One of them , at : www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text036.jpg
Variable / oscillatory leverage is a natural principle , if we intend to join , attach ourselves to a continuous motion around us ("perpetuum mobile").
All we need to do , is to "copy" and TEST a simple "open design" :
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGBANgbRkws

   Al_ex
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Marsing

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2014, 04:05:21 PM »


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forest

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2014, 04:57:19 PM »
you have to add something to "re-start device" , because it works like a chain of syringes and need to realign pistons
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Marsing

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2014, 05:33:21 PM »
Quote from: forest on May 07, 2014, 04:57:19 PM
you have to add something to "re-start device" , because it works like a chain of syringes and need to realign pistons

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mscoffman

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2014, 05:40:14 PM »
Plus air doesn't really "suck" water. External atmosphere pushes on it but only to 33 feet of water.
The weight of the lower bucket in each case is an extra cost option.

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Marsing

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2014, 05:46:58 PM »
Quote from: mscoffman on May 07, 2014, 05:40:14 PM
Plus air doesn't really "suck" water. External atmosphere pushes on it but only to 33 feet of water.
The weight of the lower bucket in each case is an extra cost option.



External atmosphere should not involved.
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gmbajszar

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2014, 10:15:13 PM »
Someone asked about patent related issues. They are explained on my home page.

http://gmbajszar.wix.com/mbcim

I gave the name to such science that is able to work with gravity as technology 'extra terrestrial pseudo science' or ET pseudo science.

George
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gmbajszar

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2014, 12:30:54 AM »
Perpetual motion machine version of this idea with constant flowing water back and forth between the two boxes.
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