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Author Topic: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy  (Read 12766 times)

Offline Staffman

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2014, 12:47:30 AM »



Please see [size=78%]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Boyle[/size]. Your device resembles Robert Boyle's Hydrostatic Paradox.


A siphon needs the output to be at a lower position...








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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2014, 01:03:18 AM »
Boyle's device doesn't have extremely low pressure air at the top. The extremely low pressure air pulls the water up in the hose.
Weight drops, the boxes (upper, lower) extend vertically in size and that creates very low pressure air at the top.

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2014, 02:20:40 AM »
Hello George,


I'm not sure how your device accomplishes a low pressure. Using the equation for atmospheric pressure at a different altitude we can calculate the pressure on the liquid exposed to the atmosphere. On the low side, say at sea level, the atmospheric pressure is 14.6959(PSI). At the high side, 1000 ft above sea level, the pressure is 14.1726(PSI).


The page below gives the equation... the equation gives Pascals, you can convert to PSI by multiplying by 1.45037738e-4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_pressure


The pressure on the high side isn't as low as one would imagine at such a high elevation.


Good luck!!!

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2014, 02:55:41 AM »
I am not going to explain the concept anymore. But thank you for all the thoughts.

George

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2014, 04:08:40 PM »
Someone asked me a good question: In what condition the lower box moves up (or further down).

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2014, 05:45:29 PM »
Seems to me once the lower box drops there is nothing to bring it back up.
At some point the system would balance itself out and stop.
Anyhoo, here is a real solution using old technology, a hydraulic ram pump.
This technology has been moving water up hills since, roughly, 1797.

This example moves water through 500' of tubing and up a 100' grade.
The first 2:45 is about how he sets up his supply, the rest is the pump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFZYD05I29s

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Re: Solved how to move water up a mountain without energy
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2014, 03:22:42 PM »

The only thing that one have to make sure is the lower box really drop, to bring it back it use different mechanism, the system that gmbajszar showing is just around 10 - 20 % of the whole system. IMO

« Last Edit: May 09, 2014, 05:36:08 PM by Marsing »

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