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Author Topic: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!  (Read 209008 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #450 on: June 15, 2014, 01:02:27 PM »
Yes, I know how to shield scalar waves, and the chains will be made accordingly to make an effective faraday cage against you, so it is you who should think again.

Gravock
LOL, no those sorts of things won't work either.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #451 on: June 15, 2014, 01:03:49 PM »
This thread has been hijacked, and the title of this thread has changed a few different times to better reflect the postings within it.  And no, the skeptics do not believe when proof is provided.  They will write off any proof that opposes their own belief, or their own opinion, or their own agenda regardless of the evidence presented.  Then they resort to misdirection, misinformation, spam, psychological projections, putting constraints on how you can answer their questions in order to hide and suppress the truth, etc.

Gravock
LOL, it isn't as though you have offered any credible evidence for your loopy claims.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #452 on: June 15, 2014, 01:11:33 PM »
LOL, it isn't as though you have offered any credible evidence for your loopy claims.

As already shown, any evidence offered or presented to you, is only credible in your view if it doesn't oppose your own opinion and agenda.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #453 on: June 15, 2014, 01:13:47 PM »
As already shown, any evidence offered or presented to you, is only credible if it doesn't oppose your own opinion and agenda.

Gravock
LOL, just keep pumping out your empty and false claims.  At this rate you may have to called back for an eight week remedial course in trolling.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #454 on: June 15, 2014, 01:26:36 PM »
LOL, no those sorts of things won't work either.

Yes it will work, because you will need to change the current simulation which will have different parameters.  Remember, there will be a new heaven and a new earth!  The old chains were an effective faraday cage against the electromagnetic waves according to the current parameters of the simulation, and the new chains will be an effective faraday cage against the new scalar waves, which was devised to break the old chains.  The new faraday cage will be effective for a thousand years.  "The old has been made new again".

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #455 on: June 15, 2014, 01:53:25 PM »
Yes it will work, because you will need to change the current simulation which will have different parameters.  Remember, there will be a new heaven and a new earth!  The old chains were an effective faraday cage against the electromagnetic waves according to the current parameters of the simulation, and the new chains will be an effective faraday cage against the new scalar waves, which was devised to break the old chains.  The new faraday cage will be effective for a thousand years.  "The old has been made new again".

Gravock
LOL, believe what you like.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #456 on: June 15, 2014, 02:22:23 PM »
You being a skeptic, has admitted you have never ever been provided any proof on any of the outrageous claims in which you select to raise doubt over, confirms and is proof of my statement that a skeptic will write off any evidence that opposes their own opinion, beliefs, agenda, etc.

Please provide proof of your claim that you have never ever been provided any evidence that is contrary to your beliefs, opinions, agenda, etc.  Either way, it is you and not me who is a faker and a fraud because you are caught in your own contradictory statement.

Gravock

How stupid is that! I have to provide proof I have never been provided proof. Do you know what a circular argument is? If not go and read up on it.

Ok I'll try to do the impossible. In my recent posts I asked Tito L. Oracion to provide proof that Tesla said you can get infinite energy from a condensor. Tito responded he doesn't need to provide proof as he has seen it for himself.

So he failed to provide any evidence to support his claim.

Do you know what proof is? I bet you cannot wrap your brain around the concept of proof can you.

Proof is NOT you saying you have done something
Proof is NOT is not some lame video on you tube
Proof is NOT some other person in your information bubble saying they believe you.

That sort of 'proof' is only for the fools amongst us.

Proof is to provide the report from an independent measurement facility that have measured the input and output of whatever the device is. A report that includes looking for the possibility of deliberate fraud.
Proof is independent replication by an unconnected and reliable third party in the form of a university or other institution who can accurately reproduce the device in question.
Proof is a device I can buy and test for myself.
Proof is pointing to the historical document that shows Tesla made the statement.

They are the types of proofs which are not evident anywhere on this site ever.

If anybody is prepared to accept anything less than the above as proof then they are only fooling themselves and are ripe to be conned.

Not one overunity device has been proven true ever.

So why don't you TRY to prove me wrong.

Point me to a real proof of any overunity claim and I'll reconsider my opinion, until then you are just wasting both our time and making yourself look even more foolish.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #457 on: June 15, 2014, 03:06:24 PM »
So gravityblock seems to have gone considerably more crazy.  I wonder if this is evidence that he is a simple troll...anyway if the portions of his brain that reason ever get back from the vacation they are currently on.  I put forth the following questions regarding his assertion that he has linked to a paper which presents strong statistical evidence for the universe being a simulation.

In which case I really need to know what he means by presents, statistical and strong.

i) If PRESENTS means the actual work is in some other paper by this set of authors.  Then gavrock is saying that this paper contains no work that can be meaningfully discussed as STRONG AND STATISTICAL.  I would request that he submit a different one, one that we can actually discuss.

ii) If STATISTICAL does not involve a calculation of probability in this paper (or the real paper that we should be discussing) then exactly what does it mean?  If evidence does not shift the likelihood of a hypothesis then what is it's purpose?  Why call it evidence?

iii) If STRONG does not mean a probability > 0.5 then doesn't that mean the hypothesis is weaker than all mutually exclusive hypotheses?  If STRONG does mean a probability > 0.5 and gavrock have chosen some definition of STATISTICAL which does not involve calculations then clearly that creates a problem if he wants to state that the probability is > 0.5

Or he can continue to hijack his own thread talking about people being artificial intelligence or binding them to the abyss...or whatever illucid fantasy he prefers.


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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #459 on: June 15, 2014, 09:55:18 PM »
Gravityblock:

It still blows my mind sometimes how such completely retarded things can be posted on YouTube.  There has to be a "crazy" person behind a retarded clip.  Then people will actually believe the retarded YouTube clips and take them seriously.

I looked at the self-described "tinfoil hat" clip that you linked to in your posting called, "Holographic Moon, Matrix Flaw? The Pac Man Shadow Moon 1-9-2013."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOMCN2K2fhM

Look at the screen capture, they messed up the holographic projection of the moon from the secret HAARP II holographic projection bases in the Indian ocean.

But......  If you have brains and want to do the slightest amount of due diligence, sometimes there are comments on the clip itself that are worth reading.

Like this one, "You don't say what equipment you are using. It looks to me like a very common effect of taking a picture through an eyepiece of a telescope with a camera, and being slightly off-centre, you pick up the edge of the botttom end of the eyepiece. The exit pupil is only so wide, and you have to be over the centre to not get the black line effect. it happens when you view through it as well, but it's easier to do than photographing. You wouldn't get that effect if you attached your camera directly to the telescope and took out the eyepiece. I know some of you want to believe this hologram thing, but every single one of these types of videos and photographs are just so obvious to anyone with any experience in astronomy, and especially astrophotography. Sorry."

I am flabbergasted that a guy that can talk such high-end pseudoscience about quantum theory would be bamboozled into believing that the moon is a holographic projection because some dumb dude went camping in the Arizona mountains and stuck his digital camera up to the eyepiece of his telescope and snapped a picture of the moon missing a big chunk of Limburger cheese.

MileHigh


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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #460 on: June 15, 2014, 10:32:19 PM »
MileHigh,

It blows my mind how you can dismiss all of the evidence contained in every one of those video links, which probably has 6+ hours of total video, within a 53 minute time period after the posting of those links.  This tells me you will dismiss any and all evidence that is in opposition to your own views and agenda and wrongfully claim the evidence isn't credible based on your own false beliefs and perceptions.

Gravock 

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #461 on: June 15, 2014, 10:34:18 PM »
Gravityblock:

Do you think the moon is real, or do you think it is a holographic PacMan moon?

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #462 on: June 15, 2014, 10:44:13 PM »
Gravityblock:

Do you think the moon is real, or do you think it is a holographic PacMan moon?

MileHigh

GB will most likely disagree with this but I believe it is real since we landed on it a number of times during the Apollo missions.  It really scares me to find that a number of young folks think we never landed on the moon.  They claim that we did not have the technology to do so at the time.  They should be very impressed that we were able to do so using the then present technology.  A lot of money and a lot of very hard work from many engineers and scientists allowed this to happen.  I have talked to some of them.  We owe a great dept to their accomplishments and they deserve better than for folks to "claim" that we did not do it or the moon does not really exist. (Holy crap!)

Bill

PS:  If GB thinks the moon is a hologram then, how does he explain the tides?

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #463 on: June 15, 2014, 10:54:08 PM »
Gravityblock:

It still blows my mind sometimes how such completely retarded things can be posted on YouTube.  There has to be a "crazy" person behind a retarded clip.  Then people will actually believe the retarded YouTube clips and take them seriously.

I looked at the self-described "tinfoil hat" clip that you linked to in your posting called, "Holographic Moon, Matrix Flaw? The Pac Man Shadow Moon 1-9-2013."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOMCN2K2fhM

Look at the screen capture, they messed up the holographic projection of the moon from the secret HAARP II holographic projection bases in the Indian ocean.

But......  If you have brains and want to do the slightest amount of due diligence, sometimes there are comments on the clip itself that are worth reading.

Like this one, "You don't say what equipment you are using. It looks to me like a very common effect of taking a picture through an eyepiece of a telescope with a camera, and being slightly off-centre, you pick up the edge of the botttom end of the eyepiece. The exit pupil is only so wide, and you have to be over the centre to not get the black line effect. it happens when you view through it as well, but it's easier to do than photographing. You wouldn't get that effect if you attached your camera directly to the telescope and took out the eyepiece. I know some of you want to believe this hologram thing, but every single one of these types of videos and photographs are just so obvious to anyone with any experience in astronomy, and especially astrophotography. Sorry."

I am flabbergasted that a guy that can talk such high-end pseudoscience about quantum theory would be bamboozled into believing that the moon is a holographic projection because some dumb dude went camping in the Arizona mountains and stuck his digital camera up to the eyepiece of his telescope and snapped a picture of the moon missing a big chunk of Limburger cheese.

MileHigh

How are we are able to see the entire outline and the entire circumference of the moon looking through a portion of the eyepiece?  We wouldn't see the shadow portions on the moon if looking through a portion of the eyepiece, but instead the shadow portions would be completely darkened and not reveal the entire circumference of the moon.  Where is the big chunk of missing Limburger cheese you speak of in the snapshot you posted?  Another sad analysis and viewer comment!

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« Reply #464 on: June 15, 2014, 11:23:45 PM »
GB will most likely disagree with this but I believe it is real since we landed on it a number of times during the Apollo missions.  It really scares me to find that a number of young folks think we never landed on the moon.  They claim that we did not have the technology to do so at the time.  They should be very impressed that we were able to do so using the then present technology.  A lot of money and a lot of very hard work from many engineers and scientists allowed this to happen.  I have talked to some of them.  We owe a great dept to their accomplishments and they deserve better than for folks to "claim" that we did not do it or the moon does not really exist. (Holy crap!)

Bill

PS:  If GB thinks the moon is a hologram then, how does he explain the tides?

A funny thing happened on the way to the moon!

The pressure of light explains the forces and the tides within our holographic universe.  In your terms, the sunlight reflected from the moon exerts a pressure on the liquid mass of the ocean.  Being compressed at one point, this liquid is raised up at another.  This is the explanation of the retardation of tides caused by the moon.  In my terms, neither matter nor energy exist within this simulation, but only deformed space, which is called matter, and what you call energy is nothing more than a phenomenon of transition between primordial space and deformed space.  Since light is deformed space turning itself back into primordial space, then the meeting of these two conditions of space causes quite a marked pressure on us as we move past this stationary light via our expansion acceleration within this simulation.  Since matter and energy doesn't exist within this simulation and is an illusion, then the moon can not be made up of matter and it is also an illusion or a hologram.

Gravock