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Author Topic: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!  (Read 207983 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #345 on: June 08, 2014, 12:54:50 PM »
No, your assertion is not true, because you are not taking the expansion acceleration of matter and space into consideration!  In addition to this, your assertion wrongly assumes a continuous motion.  This is yet another fail for a false assertion by you.

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LOL, is this yet another Mathism that you promote ?  A change in velocity: direction or speed is the result of an acceleration: period.  You are free to try and show actual credible references to experiments that show a change in velocity without acceleration.  You are free to try and show an example of a true instant 90 degree turn taken by anything, anywhere.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #346 on: June 08, 2014, 01:00:35 PM »
Euclidean geometry does not represent the real world.  It is not quantized and gives the impression that matter can move in a curve or in a straight path over long distances through space with a continuous motion.  It takes the time element out of the equation.  Time is motion, or motion is Time.  Taxicab geometry has discrete steps (quantization) and shows the correct movement of matter through space, and that is in discrete jumps with a rectilinear motion which correctly represents the real world.

If you don't ask the right questions, then you don't get the right answers.  I can't give a right answer to a wrong question.  However, the right question and the right answer can both be found in this post!

Gravock
LOL, let's see you demonstrate one of these instant 90 degree motions that you insist are the basis of all real trajectories.  Let's see you show the 90 degree movements that you claim are "correct movement of matter through space" for a collimated beam of light such as a LASER.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #347 on: June 08, 2014, 02:18:21 PM »
LOL, is this yet another Mathism that you promote ?  A change in velocity: direction or speed is the result of an acceleration: period.  You are free to try and show actual credible references to experiments that show a change in velocity without acceleration.  You are free to try and show an example of a true instant 90 degree turn taken by anything, anywhere.

Hi. I find gravityblock quite a knowledgeable guy; his only problem I found through this forum, is, he is a Creationist and all his theories are subject of Creationism.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #348 on: June 08, 2014, 02:28:54 PM »
Do you believe his assertion that objects follow paths that consist of a series of perfect 90 degree deflections?  Do you believe his claim that such deflections are even possible without unlimited power?

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #349 on: June 08, 2014, 02:38:19 PM »
Kentucky is a state
A fact I'm well aware but you talked about the posters hometown.  Clearly you must also be insulting a town.  Also in my hometown they taught us that other peoples bigotry does not excuse your own.  Perhaps they didn't teach that lesson in yours?  Anyway the point was, you appear to have time to make bigoted comments but not answer my question.

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Why don't you tell me which parts!  Or, do you not know?
I assume you mean that I should tell you what parts in Mathis diagram which are non-euclidean.  Again I think I need to remind you that the assertion "Some of that diagram is non-euclidean" is yours and for some reason you think I should be responsible for explaining your assertion.   If I understood your assertion then I wouldn't need you to explain it.   Which would preclude my asking the question.  Your assertion I suspect is wrong but as I mentioned before it's a good idea to hear out the argument before passing judgement.  So far you simply are being dishonest and unfair about the whole process of understanding your argument.

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You don't even know if the "If yes" portion in question 3 refers to the answer for question 1 or to the answer for question 2, in regards to the questions you've been asking me.
No, I don't know what you mean by your question.  That's a different thing.  A thing you absolutely refuse to clarify.  I explained why your question doesn't make sense to me (as in some sense "refer" applies to all aspects of the questions since they are words, which refer to sentences which refer to an overarching argument).  I provided a question which I think might be what you are trying to express - which you refused to say anything about and I provided you with a pretty clear general format for asking me a question which would clarify the situation.   What more do you want?

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It's because you are trying to play both the "yes card" and the "no card" simultaneously for the same question.
I have no idea what you mean here because again I have no idea what your complaint is.  If this is about the three pointed syllogism I gave you.  You already answered it enough to get to the point.  However that is not the question you constantly refuse to answer.  The question you refuse to answer (now asked THIRTEEN TIMES) is: "When you say that Mathis http://milesmathis.com/vel5.jpg diagram contains euclidean and non-euclidean geometries.  Please point out which elements are in which geometries."

The three-point syllogism was just to show that you must be able to do this.

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This is the basis for why I am refusing to answer your question, so you can't play both cards against me.
Personally I don't see why anyone arguing would care about "cards" at all.  Just ask questions and see where the argument goes.  Seems like a more honest way to find the answer than what you are doing.

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You need to grow up!
I'm not sure what passes for adult behavior where you are but your antics here remind me of what I was like when I was 18 which is when I knew jack about shit. :D
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I am no longer having a discussion with you on this issue
Did this qualify as a discussion?  You kept pretty much your argument secret and I laid mine out to be examined.  If this was a discussion, can you tell me what it was about?

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because you will do anything, regardless if it is wrong, to win an argument.
I'm beginning to this is more about you doing anything, regardless if it is wrong to avoid losing an argument.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #350 on: June 08, 2014, 03:16:49 PM »
Do you believe his assertion that objects follow paths that consist of a series of perfect 90 degree deflections?  Do you believe his claim that such deflections are even possible without unlimited power?

Probably in Creationist's way it's possible. You know, those people don't need to prove anything, they just believe; very hard believe. Thus, gravityblock goes far too far since he even attempts to argue.
Don't forget, Creationists believe the Universe was created within literally 7 (seven) days and that happened somewhat ten thousand years ago. It must be true because The Bible say so. ???

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #351 on: June 08, 2014, 04:36:45 PM »
A fact I'm well aware but you talked about the posters hometown.  Clearly you must also be insulting a town. 

Another misdirection by you.  It was Pirate Bill of Kentucky who spoke badly about his home town and not me.  I only questioned why he would be very proud of his home town's failed liberal policies and going down hill fast.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #352 on: June 08, 2014, 04:48:02 PM »
LOL, let's see you demonstrate one of these instant 90 degree motions that you insist are the basis of all real trajectories.  Let's see you show the 90 degree movements that you claim are "correct movement of matter through space" for a collimated beam of light such as a LASER.

You have inverted the truth.  Light is stationary, and we are moving past stationary light in our surrounding space at 9.8m/s2 via our expansion acceleration.  This is what we call gravity!

Gravock

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #353 on: June 08, 2014, 04:49:57 PM »
It's patently absurd for someone to claim that "calculus is wrong" and that "pi = 4" when he's sitting there typing on a computer, that was designed by people who believe in and use calculus and the FACT that pi = 3.14159.... very day to solve practical problems and get the correct answers that actually work. Especially when he cannot give any examples where his conceptions give the correct answers but real calculus does not.

Combined with his lies and misrepresentations about the work and posts of others, his ridiculous flailings are not even entertaining any more, as they are simply repetitive and non-responsive, mere repetitions of previously-made and undefensible assertions.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #354 on: June 08, 2014, 04:54:38 PM »
The question you refuse to answer (now asked THIRTEEN TIMES) is: "When you say that Mathis http://milesmathis.com/vel5.jpg diagram contains euclidean and non-euclidean geometries.  Please point out which elements are in which geometries."

You are not asking the right question.  If you don't ask the right question, then you won't get the right answer.  For example, the question, "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"  This is a bad question, for the question itself wrongly implies one came before the other, when they actually came together as one.  The chicken is in the egg, and the egg is in the form of a chicken.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #355 on: June 08, 2014, 05:05:12 PM »
It's patently absurd for someone to claim that "calculus is wrong" and that "pi = 4" when he's sitting there typing on a computer, that was designed by people who believe in and use calculus and the FACT that pi = 3.14159.... very day to solve practical problems and get the correct answers that actually work. Especially when he cannot give any examples where his conceptions give the correct answers but real calculus does not.

Combined with his lies and misrepresentations about the work and posts of others, his ridiculous flailings are not even entertaining any more, as they are simply repetitive and non-responsive, mere repetitions of previously-made and undefensible assertions.

Another misdirection, and another wrong assumption and wrong assertion by you.  Programmers that dealt with the early computer graphics, where you programmed at pixel level, know that the perimeter of a pixelated circle is 4x its diameter and that had to be accounted for when a user tried to pick a location on a circle.  See the snapshot below, which can be found at the Quantum Pi.  Now what happens if you try to draw a circle on a computer monitor that has a radius of 1 pixel? Well, you get a 2x2 square, with a circumference of 8 pixel units (assuming a 1:1 height:width ratio), diameter = 2 units, and PI, the ratio of circumference to diameter, is therefore 4 (not 3.14), due to this pixelation.

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #356 on: June 08, 2014, 05:23:51 PM »
Hi. I find gravityblock quite a knowledgeable guy; his only problem I found through this forum, is, he is a Creationist and all his theories are subject of Creationism.

My theories are subject to the Truth.  However, the Truth does indeed fall in-line with an Intelligent Designer.  Nature can produce patterns, but nature alone can not produce content with information, such as DNA (video).

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #357 on: June 08, 2014, 05:31:22 PM »
My theories are subject to the Truth.  However, the Truth does indeed fall in-line with an Intelligent Designer.  Nature can produce patterns, but nature alone can not produce content with information, such as DNA.

Gravock

That's exactly what I meant, only maybe not exactly expressed.

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« Reply #358 on: June 08, 2014, 05:35:39 PM »
That's exactly what I meant, only maybe not exactly expressed.

Thanks for not misrepresenting me!

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Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #359 on: June 08, 2014, 06:45:27 PM »
Another misdirection by you.  It was Pirate Bill of Kentucky who spoke badly about his home town and not me.  I only questioned why he would be very proud of his home town's failed liberal policies and going down hill fast.

Gravock

Holy Crap!  Speaking of misdirection....sheesh.  I must have lost like ten I.Q. points reading this gibberish.  Are you really this ignorant or are you just pretending?

Have you never heard of being happy to be "FROM" somewhere?  Does this concept not exist in your little fantasy world over there?  Did you consider that when I lived there it was not like that?  No?  Didn't think so.  I swear, a first grader would not misunderstand my statement the way you have.

OK, here you go:  Do you think it is possible that there might be a few folks that used to live in Detroit and are now happy they are FROM there?  My guess is that would be all of them, but you will probably say none, once again displaying your ignorance for all to see.

You are a minion for ignorance!

Bill