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### Author Topic: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!  (Read 243586 times)

#### gravityblock

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #165 on: June 03, 2014, 03:07:49 AM »
Yes, Mathis' derivation of Pi = 4 is wonderful parody.  GB has done what he could to try and carry on the joke well past its expiration.

The joke is on you, since you couldn't predict which car would win the race.  Your statement is nothing more than another psychological projection by you.

Gravock

#### sarkeizen

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #166 on: June 03, 2014, 03:11:02 AM »
This is not a mathematical or scientific rebuttal, and is an argument by assertion with nothing to back up your false claims.
Shut.  The FUCK. Up.

It was actually an exercise left for the reader.  Yes what I made WAS an assertion but if you had learned logic from somewhere other than the internet you would have realized that not every assertion IS an argument.

But now I guess it's on...

Are you saying that Miles Mathis use of "steps" to demonstrate that Pi=4 (Effectively this:http://jamiehubball.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/tumblr_lbxrvck4pk1qbylvso1_400.png?w=549) is correct?

Quote from: Miles Mathless
We can draw eight steps or 64 steps or an infinity of steps, and it will not change a thing.

Is this a correct way to find the length of the arc?

Also notice how I take time to get you to put your thesis in words we agree upon before I kick the living crap out of it.  A habit you might want to pick up.

#### MarkE

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #167 on: June 03, 2014, 03:14:21 AM »

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Quote from: sarkeizen on Today at 02:55:12 AM

Especially since he also proves (perhaps inadvertently) that the pythagorean theorem can't possibly be true.

This is not a mathematical or scientific rebuttal, and is an argument by assertion with nothing to back up your false claims.

Gravock
LOL.  Now you're playing the role of  a Pythagorean Theorem Truther?  Are you a member of Internet Nutters for Pythagorean Truth?  Have you circulated a petition demanding to investigate the conspiracy behind various proofs of the Pythagorean Theorem?

#### MarkE

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #168 on: June 03, 2014, 03:17:28 AM »
Mathis is not the source of my inspiration.  However, logic and truth is my source for inspiration.  In case you haven't noticed, I have made references to Frank Znidarsic, Ioannis Xydous, Frank Wilczek, Lane Davis in addition to Miles Mathis along with videos, references, graphs, publications, images, etc.  You provide no references, and only post arguments by assertions with nothing to back up your false claims.

Gravock
Oooh baiting!!!  It's a fun game for all on the internet.  You assert that I make false claims.  Where is your proof?  Oopsie daisy!!!

#### MarkE

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #169 on: June 03, 2014, 03:18:10 AM »
The joke is on you, since you couldn't predict which car would win the race.  Your statement is nothing more than another psychological projection by you.

Gravock
Oooh, more baiting!

#### gravityblock

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #170 on: June 03, 2014, 03:53:38 AM »
Shut.  The FUCK. Up.

It was actually an exercise left for the reader.  Yes what I made WAS an assertion but if you had learned logic from somewhere other than the internet you would have realized that not every assertion IS an argument.

But now I guess it's on...

Are you saying that Miles Mathis use of "steps" to demonstrate that Pi=4 (Effectively this:http://jamiehubball.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/tumblr_lbxrvck4pk1qbylvso1_400.png?w=549) is correct?

Quote from: Mathis
We can draw eight steps or 64 steps or an infinity of steps, and it will not change a thing.

Is this a correct way to find the length of the arc?

Also notice how I take time to get you to put your thesis in words we agree upon before I kick the living crap out of it.  A habit you might want to pick up.

Do you disagree with Mathis's statement of, "we can draw eight steps or 64 steps or an infinity of steps, and it will not change a thing?  If you disagree with his statement, then please show how the perimeter changes after each step.  Your method for finding the length of the arc is not applicable for a circular path with a time variable.

Al-right, then once again let me get your thesis in words before we begin, as I previously did with the car race.  Do you think pi is a dimensionless constant?  Also, do you think the circumference is only a length and/or only a distance in a circular path with a time element?

Gravock

#### gravityblock

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #171 on: June 03, 2014, 03:56:32 AM »
Oooh baiting!!!  It's a fun game for all on the internet.  You assert that I make false claims.  Where is your proof?  Oopsie daisy!!!

My proof is your lack of references, your lack of mathematical rebuttals, and your lack of scientific rebuttals to back up your assertions.

Gravock

#### gravityblock

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #172 on: June 03, 2014, 04:14:28 AM »
Oooh, more baiting!

More spam, by the spam bot!

Gravock

#### MarkE

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #173 on: June 03, 2014, 04:15:58 AM »

Is this a correct way to find the length of the arc?

Also notice how I take time to get you to put your thesis in words we agree upon before I kick the living crap out of it.  A habit you might want to pick up.

Do you disagree with Mathis's statement of, "we can draw eight steps or 64 steps or an infinity of steps, and it will not change a thing?  If you disagree with his statement, then please show how the perimeter changes after each step.  Your method for finding the length of the arc is not applicable for a circular path with a time variable.

Al-right, then once again let me get your thesis in words before we begin, as I previously did with the car race.  Do you think pi is a dimensionless constant?  Also, do you think the circumference is only a length and/or only a distance in a circular path with a time element?

Gravock
LOL.  "Pee Wee's Playhouse" went off the air but you give us this.

#### MarkE

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #174 on: June 03, 2014, 04:17:23 AM »
My proof is your lack of references, your lack of mathematical rebuttals, and your lack of scientific rebuttals to back up your assertions.

Gravock
LOL.  Your statements are all ... wait for it ... assertions!

#### gravityblock

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #175 on: June 03, 2014, 04:21:37 AM »
LOL.  Your statements are all ... wait for it ... assertions!

The two "wait for it" statements were not assertions, and were backed up with mathematical rebuttals.

Gravock

#### gravityblock

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #176 on: June 03, 2014, 04:25:42 AM »
LOL.  "Pee Wee's Playhouse" went off the air but you give us this.

Another psychological projection.  It's obvious you try to bury your posts behind a bunch of spam when the debate isn't going in your favour.

Gravock

#### MarkE

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #177 on: June 03, 2014, 04:31:24 AM »
The two "wait for it" statements were not assertions, and were backed up with mathematical rebuttals.

Gravock
LOL.   Somewhere your "mathematical rebuttals" were devoid of any math, or any actual data that supported your assertions.  We all know that you are playing a game for LULZ.  Do you think you are doing well?

#### MarkE

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #178 on: June 03, 2014, 04:32:30 AM »
Another psychological projection.  It's obvious you try to bury your posts behind a bunch of spam when the debate isn't going in your favour.

Gravock
Debate?  Where is the debate?  You deny the Pythagorean Theorem.

#### sarkeizen

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##### Re: The Holographic Universe and Pi = 4 in Kinematics!
« Reply #179 on: June 03, 2014, 04:35:39 AM »
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Is this a correct way to find the length of the arc?
Just pointing out that you have avoided answering my question but of course you will demand that I answer yours, then perhaps lie a little or pretend that you have.  Is there a reason that the deliberately ignorant all act this way?
Do you disagree with Mathis's statement of, "we can draw eight steps or 64 steps or an infinity of steps, and it will not change a thing?"
Yes.  In the specific sense that it is meaningful to the problem at hand - which is measuring the arc.  You could apply the identical principle to the hypotenuse and end up with a contradiction to the pythagorean theorem.  However since we know the pythagorean theorem to be true by other means we know that this can not be a correct measure.  QED.

Next?
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Your method for finding the length of the arc is not applicable for a circular path with a time variable.
At what point did I mention "my method".  I'm just saying that Mathis could have his head cut off and do math nearly as well as he currently does.
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Al-right, then once again let me get your thesis in words before we begin, as I previously did with the car race.
Actually you didn't.  You didn't explain either question well and you didn't answer my questions.   Go ahead and look.  Nope.  At no point did you find out what I think about the actual problem you were positing.  Do you usually delude yourself like this?
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Do you think pi is a dimensionless constant?
Define "dimensionless constant" using only the lemmas of ZF(C).