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Author Topic: E-Stress Power Generator  (Read 13995 times)

Offline John.K1

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E-Stress Power Generator
« on: April 26, 2014, 12:07:52 PM »
Hi guys,

I decided to start this threat related to the E-Stress Power Generator as I think it is very interesting idea.
Couple month ago I decided to build one , unfortunately it didn't work for me. There is several possibilities why.  I am just not sure yet. I would like to know what is your experience or thinking about this type of power generator.  Cheers for any advice and comments.

Jan


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E-Stress Power Generator
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Offline John.K1

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2014, 12:13:14 PM »
Here is the actual picture of my device.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2014, 01:01:46 PM »
It does look kind of like a pineapple, doesn't it?

Your work area is waaay too neat and you don't have enough colored clipleads. Other than that, you are doing fine.



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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2014, 01:01:46 PM »
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Offline John.K1

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2014, 01:18:15 PM »
Hey Koala! , do you want me to take a picture of my colorful clipleads which are behind the scene? -around 50  ;)  Anyway I would expect some more serious and clever discussion than just judging my work-space :)

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 01:23:40 PM »
The picture just for you Koala ;)

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 01:36:55 PM »
Hey Koala! , do you want me to take a picture of my colorful clipleads which are behind the scene? -around 50  ;)  Anyway I would expect some more serious and clever discussion than just judging my work-space :)

Well, when you post a full schematic, some scopeshots and some claims with evidence supporting them, I'll do my best to be clever for you.

So far there isn't much to be serious and clever about!

Have you checked all those clipleads to see if there is actually wire in them? I've seen some from China that had nice thick insulation but only a single tiny strand of #34 wire inside.


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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 02:06:56 PM »
Ok , for you guys who has no idea what is it about ( like Koala ;)  ) please refer to the Patrick's pdf  (download here:  http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/PJKbook.pdf ) page 3-144.   I'll make some more info about my device later on. I didn't touch it for two month.  So far I remember I have measured the  capacitance's 10, 75, 10 nF .
Also I think my dielectric might be too thick for just 60V. In any case I  measured almost nothing on the output capacitor. In the write ups they speaks about using the wax-paper (baking paper)  I did one such but found some short inside. When I was rebuilding the device I have used heavy duty plastic tape instead as dielectric. Mistake? Possibly.


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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 02:34:58 PM »
Gaah. If someone else gives me yet another link to Kelly's famous document I will plotz.

Do you think I just fell off the pumpkin truck yesterday? Please try to give me a little credit, at least.

Offline DilJalaay

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 04:54:43 PM »
Thanks Jan for starting this thread.
Here i am attaching the circuit for the new commers.


Yes you are right, it needs very thin dielectric for 60VDC.
Same thing happened for me, my caps retain no charge even a single volt.Also mine caps puncture too. I used kitchen plastic warping sheet for my dielectric.


Regs,
D.J


P.S: if some one need this orignal pdf doc of E-Stress Transformer, i can look for him the link.
http://www.slideshare.net/harisingh/estress-25974444

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 05:25:27 PM »
Hi D.J.

Thank you for comment.  As I thought  :( . Well, I think I have only two options. One is to rebuild the device with thinner dielectric, and the other is to use HV. But not so high to break through the capacitors. So far I thought- with the thicker dielectric your capacitance goes down. When connected 60V I expected to find there that 60V. But they just disappear as fast as I disconnect power supply and my meter shows quick drop to 2V. There is no way for leakage in my build. I was very careful (based on previous experience :) )
All  AL foils are well sealed in the plastic foils- no naked edges.

When I am thinking about it now, I should check it with different voltmeter. I wouldn't be surprised if my meter is not shorting. Last time it behaved strangely- also during the check on capacitor while charging (by HF), hmm.

Also I can see you have used the magnet wires?  I use multi-stranded plastic isolated 0.8mm

Anyway D.J. , keep posting, good work!

Jan

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2014, 06:07:17 PM »
Hi D.J.

Thank you for comment.  As I thought  :( . Well, I think I have only two options. One is to rebuild the device with thinner dielectric, and the other is to use HV. But not so high to break through the capacitors. So far I thought- with the thicker dielectric your capacitance goes down. When connected 60V I expected to find there that 60V. But they just disappear as fast as I disconnect power supply and my meter shows quick drop to 2V. There is no way for leakage in my build. I was very careful (based on previous experience :) )
All  AL foils are well sealed in the plastic foils- no naked edges.

When I am thinking about it now, I should check it with different voltmeter. I wouldn't be surprised if my meter is not shorting. Last time it behaved strangely- also during the check on capacitor while charging (by HF), hmm.

Also I can see you have used the magnet wires?  I use multi-stranded plastic isolated 0.8mm

Anyway D.J. , keep posting, good work!

Jan
I made my coil a month ago.
The wires should be very thin layer of insulation. The point is that coil should be so close to the caps, so they inductively gain charge.


Any way at least this paper gives us a good solid theory about this transformer. And for me it logically work as it mentioned.


I will re-continue my project again, and will share my results.
Thanks for the inspiration.

what is your dielectric material?
Regs,
D.J

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2014, 06:16:07 PM »
Hi D.J.

I will try this one with HV and also will make a new thinner version as you suggested. ;)
 I remember now, my problem was I didn't have enough of length of right diameter of magnet wire, that's why I decided to try that wire I have used.

Actually I still do not have. I will have to use probably some small diameter like 0.4. It's gonna be lots of turns :(

It has to work  8)

Cheers
Jan

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2014, 12:47:21 AM »
A little brother done. Firing tomorrow ;)
2 x Eenie Winnie tiny wire 0.2 coils between caps.  The dielectric is very thin cellophane. I measured all for shorts -it is fine. Only what surprise me is is the measure of capacitance  from inside  out : 10nf - 60 nf - 3.5 nf.  That 3.5 seems to me a little bit strange-small. It is outer and logically it should have more surface area. Hmm. I do not know. Anyway, tomorrow I will juice it and will see - or not see ;)

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2014, 05:28:17 PM »
Ok, write-ups says:

 "  The third capacitor Cr, is sandwiched between the interior and exterior capacitors and is independent of Vc.
When the other two capacitors, CDI and CDE, become charged, capacitor Cr becomes charged as well but at a
slightly lower voltage due to dielectric voltage drop. This charging effect is a result of electrostatic induction. "

It looks like the electrostatic induction took a holiday as I do not measure anything on my Cr cap.  I went up to 120VDC - and nothing. Only some mVolts.

  There is no short or leakage in the build. Only think in my mind could be - I have an dielectric foil between the Copper coil and Al cap plate.

Any idea why or some advice ,wise old members ;) ?

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Re: E-Stress Power Generator
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2014, 10:16:32 PM »
Hi.
Very interesting device.
Non inductive windings shield the inside capacitor from electrostatic induction influence when current flows through them.
From what I understand a static E-field is being used to pump charge into the sandwiched capacitor, and discharge this cap while the shield current flows.
The construction of the device is crucial. There has to be no leaks on the capacitors, and the non inductive wire has to be wound super tight with a small diameter magnet wire and the wire has to cover capacitor plates completely, even with a slight overlap just to be sure.


Looking forward to some experiments with this.


Happy OU hunting to all.
kEhYo


 

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