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Offline PaulLowrance

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2006, 08:27:10 PM »
Does anyone know exactly what Steorn's claims are?  Is their machine self-running (closing the loop, recirculating enough energy to run by itself without draining a battery source)?

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2006, 05:18:26 AM »
If STEORN, or anybody else for that matter, (say Lutec or Perendev for example), turn out to be a sham - or a money scam - it WILL NOT deter me, nor my associates.

Of course, it just makes it harder on ALL of us when try to put out a legitamate device in the future.

~ Ek

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2006, 05:51:05 AM »
Come on.. lets stop pandering to these dupe artists, if it really works and the technology is easy to reporduce, who the hell is gonna pay top dollar for it, it will be like napster, the controlling interest will try and close down one company and by the time they do 5 more will be selling the product ad infinitum. Just look at the illegal CD markets across the world or file sharing technology. You cannot patent and control this kind of invention, you are never gonna make a dollar out of such an invention. So i give a big poo poo to all those that think it may evolve any other way.

Unless you could throw a field across the earth that disables all such devices except for a very specific set of resonances that you are the only person can tap. Encoded free energy anyone???  Maybe that is what these turkeys are hoping for. Set up an energy shield and then modulate it with only those with the ability to know where the current accessible frequencys can tap free energy. Then sell the digital set top box to know the access frequency or no energy for you people ... hahahahahahaha .. yah hahahahaha .. evil empire laugh .. etc etc

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Re: How Steorn Works
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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2006, 05:54:03 AM »
Or maybe this is a function of HAARP and woodpecker already .. yah haaaaa  haaaa gurgle gurgle gurgle .. rrrrrrrr .. evil empire gleeeful cackle ....

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« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2006, 09:11:12 AM »
As for people "hearing" that Steorn was on CNN I say give me some proof. As to the other media attention they got, thats because they have a great marketing department and they have the balls to stand behind their claims.  Why not slap them across the face and see how they react?

Calling out to the scientific community to come and check your device is the most admiral approach I have seen yet and I applaud them, as some of you already know.

As for them going on Larry King I highly doubt it and you are only ASSUMING without factual evidence to support your claim just as much as they are. They have already stated the "interview" stage is over for now.

Peace out.  8)


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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2006, 02:53:51 PM »
Does anyone know exactly what Steorn's claims are?  Is their machine self-running (closing the loop, recirculating enough energy to run by itself without draining a battery source)?

Paul Lowrance


Hi Paul,

It seems to me, that Steorn's claim is essentially placing magnets in a very particular arrangement.  A magnet, or magnets travel around this constructed field.  There is no shielding used.  There's no information on how many levels there are.  When the magnet(s) travel from point A to point A in a single direction (let's say clockwise for argument's sake)  there is a net gain of energy.  When the magnet(s) travel from point A to point A in the opposite direction, there's a net loss.  So you could say that due to the arrangement of the magnets in this setup, the "extra" energy is used from what would normally be experienced when moving in the opposite direction.  In other words, the constructed magnetic fields allow for an extra push in the intended direction.  This is how I perceive they've done it.  Apparently, Steorn has run their device at 600k cycles with no known wear to magnetic fields (Sean apparently made a mistake and stated 600 cycles, which he mentioned would regret.  So we'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 600,000 cycles).  Once running, it doesn't stop.  This is the basic principle discovered three years ago.  They have progressed it to the point where they are submitting as many patents as they can on different arrangements as they discover them based on their discovered principle.  These patents are not available in the first stage of submission, I'm not a patent lawyer, but these things take time I guess.

I've been racking my brain thinking about how such a particular arrangement can be made and I figure that there's two levels to the whole arrangement, that the fields are constructed in a particular semi spiral pattern (not cone), the other level being the opposite to the other and the two levels of rotating magnets are mechanically arranged to counter rotate. 

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

John


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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2006, 03:18:47 PM »
Does anyone know exactly what Steorn's claims are?  Is their machine self-running (closing the loop, recirculating enough energy to run by itself without draining a battery source)?

Paul Lowrance


Hi Paul,

It seems to me, that Steorn's claim is essentially placing magnets in a very particular arrangement.  A magnet, or magnets travel around this constructed field.  There is no shielding used.  There's no information on how many levels there are.  When the magnet(s) travel from point A to point A in a single direction (let's say clockwise for argument's sake)  there is a net gain of energy.  When the magnet(s) travel from point A to point A in the opposite direction, there's a net loss.  So you could say that due to the arrangement of the magnets in this setup, the "extra" energy is used from what would normally be experienced when moving in the opposite direction.  In other words, the constructed magnetic fields allow for an extra push in the intended direction.  This is how I perceive they've done it.  Apparently, Steorn has run their device at 600k cycles with no known wear to magnetic fields (Sean apparently made a mistake and stated 600 cycles, which he mentioned would regret.  So we'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say 600,000 cycles).  Once running, it doesn't stop.  This is the basic principle discovered three years ago.  They have progressed it to the point where they are submitting as many patents as they can on different arrangements as they discover them based on their discovered principle.  These patents are not available in the first stage of submission, I'm not a patent lawyer, but these things take time I guess.

I've been racking my brain thinking about how such a particular arrangement can be made and I figure that there's two levels to the whole arrangement, that the fields are constructed in a particular semi spiral pattern (not cone), the other level being the opposite to the other and the two levels of rotating magnets are mechanically arranged to counter rotate. 

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

John



That is interesting Jowik,

But I think from what Steorn was saying, the rotor material is not made up of a magnet.  It is made of a magnetic material of some sort.  Just wonder if it has any torque to pull anything?  In order for it to have much torque, the magnetic material would have to pass close to the spiral magnet arrays that you spoke of.  (At least, I would think it would have to travel near the permanent magnetic field for strength).

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Offline Jowik

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2006, 03:28:14 PM »
That is interesting Jowik,

But I think from what Steorn was saying, the rotor material is not made up of a magnet.  It is made of a magnetic material of some sort.  Just wonder if it has any torque to pull anything?  In order for it to have much torque, the magnetic material would have to pass close to the spiral magnet arrays that you spoke of.  (At least, I would think it would have to travel near the permanent magnetic field for strength).

Interesting that you pointed that out. 

Another thing they mentioned is that they discovered this while trying to improve wind generators.  They, I think, bought one of those micro-generators for CCTV cameras and took it apart.  Typical engineers...  So, the best place to start is to find what model of micro generator they used and take it apart.

Offline Liberty

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #53 on: October 04, 2006, 03:58:37 PM »
That is interesting Jowik,

But I think from what Steorn was saying, the rotor material is not made up of a magnet.  It is made of a magnetic material of some sort.  Just wonder if it has any torque to pull anything?  In order for it to have much torque, the magnetic material would have to pass close to the spiral magnet arrays that you spoke of.  (At least, I would think it would have to travel near the permanent magnetic field for strength).

Interesting that you pointed that out. 

Another thing they mentioned is that they discovered this while trying to improve wind generators.  They, I think, bought one of those micro-generators for CCTV cameras and took it apart.  Typical engineers...  So, the best place to start is to find what model of micro generator they used and take it apart.

There is a web site that has a picture of a microgenerator and it's flux pattern.

It is:  http://www.kinetron.nl 

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #54 on: October 04, 2006, 04:11:02 PM »
Thanks for the info Jowik. Wouldn't it be something if the 12 scientists confirm Steorn's claims and cannot find the source of energy?!  What a day in science that will be. Not that I'm getting my hopes up mind you, lol. Been there and done that far too many times in this industry.

Liberty,
I didn't know much about microgenerators except they're small, like 10 mm.  Nice animation of that fields. One thing that's interesting about magnetic materials is at such scales you don't see a nice continuous field. Rather you see the domains. The domains in some materials can be up to a few mm in size. Essentially, if you have a piece of such material it become a permanent magnet, even if it's just pure iron.  I've wondered about this on occasion just because it would be interesting to see the effects of working with a single particle, say 1 mm in size, that is normally not your typical PM, but now it is just because it's small in size.

Who knows, maybe they discovered some quantum effect that becomes evident when the magnetic material is less than one domain.

Paul Lowrance

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #55 on: October 04, 2006, 04:17:07 PM »
Quote from: Liberty
http://www.kinetron.nl

That microgenerator animation reminds me of Searl generator.

http://www.sisrc.com

http://searleffect.com


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Offline thevorlon

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2006, 09:52:14 AM »
I am facinated with Steorn's technology and sincerely hope their technology is legitimate and is quickly commercialized. What I really hope is that at some point they will release enough information about their technology so it can be replicated by amateurs and scientists around the world. One thing Sean has said over and over again is that the technology is VERY SIMPLE. I hope at some point they release more information.

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2006, 10:44:23 PM »
Sean McCarthy, the CEO of Steorn, has said, on the Steorn forum, www.steorn.net, that the OU device they claim to have uses two rotors with permanent magnets on them that are at right-angles to one another.

He also said that there is no fixed magnet.

I know there are a lot of builders here and I was wondering if that is enough of a hint to get any of you thinking about possibilities. I don't think I have seen any attempts here that used that right-angle, two-rotor configuration.

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2006, 11:38:40 PM »
Canam,

I have done a LOT of reading on Steorn's website, their forum, and elsewhere but I do not remember that statement by Sean McCarthy. Could you provide a reference? From what has been said recently it seemed to me their technology was as simple as a rotor with magnets on it and then fixed magnets on the outside creating a magnetic field that the magnets on the rotor move through. Honestly, I am almost certain that I have recently read that it uses fixed magnets. But then again, I could be wrong or they may have made contradictory statements or might have more than one version of their technology.

If you could, please provide a reference.

I really, really hope they start releasing more information soon. I would love to figure out exactly how they are doing what they claim.

Offline thevorlon

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Re: How Steorn Works
« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2006, 07:40:45 AM »
Here is a clue to Steorn's technology. At least it tells us how many magnets they are using and a little bit about their positions relative to one another.

http://www.newenergytimes.com/Inthenews/2006Q2-4/Q3/THEHINDU-ScientistsWhoClaimFreeEnergy.htm

"So, as they prepare to demonstrate this wonder of science to me at their modest offices in Dublin near the Liffey, I feel all the excitement of Christmas Day. There is a test rig with wheels and cogs and four magnets meticulously aligned so as to create the maximum tension between their fields and one other magnet fixed to a point opposite. A motor rotates the wheel bearing the magnets and a computer takes 28,000 measurements a second. The magnets, naturally, act upon one another. And when it is all over, the computer tells us that almost three times the amount of energy has come out of the system as went in. In fact, this piece of equipment is 285% efficient."

The important information from that is basically there are four magnets on the rotor and one magnet on the stator. Also, it tells us that the individual are stationary and in place (not being moved aroud mechanically at key moments). Of course from what Sean has said in the past this last part was to be expected.

Hey, it's a little more information! We now know at least one version of their technology uses for stator magnets and one rotor magnet.

 

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