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Hydrogen energy => Motors or Vehicles running on HHO or Hydrogen only, no gasoline => Topic started by: lancaIV on April 20, 2014, 08:29:39 PM
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www.solarhydrogentrends.com (http://www.solarhydrogentrends.com) + www.cellaenergy.com (http://www.cellaenergy.com)
Hydrogen source Hydrogen storage
about the cellaenergy hydrogen microfibers :
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1102/11020401 (http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1102/11020401)
http://www.gizmag.com/breakthrough-promises-150-per-gallon-synthetic-gasoline-with-no-carbon-emissions/17687/ (http://www.gizmag.com/breakthrough-promises-150-per-gallon-synthetic-gasoline-with-no-carbon-emissions/17687/)
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130904&CC=KR&NR=20130098326A&KC=A
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https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+hydrogen+2000%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+hydrogen+2000%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-bNice)
Nice electro-/ hydrolysis efficiency claims !
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14626 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14626)
" Hydrogen from 2 Liter water sufficient for 100 Kilometers " claim, for this Daewoo Matiz example ( Daewoo now Chevrolet)
Instead 6 Liter Gasoline/Benzin 2 Liter water- hydrogen
Now calculation for hybrid cars/ ic- gensets
Winfield Salisbury ic-engine to hybrid electro ic-genset claims instead 9 Liter fuel average consume per 100 Km reduction to 2,25 Liter per 100 Km.
This application "only" claims 50% ( Salisbury -75%) fuel savings by car to hybrid conversion :
from 6 Liter/100 Km to 3 Liter/ 100 Km https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1#)
3 Liter/ 6 Liter unimproved Daewoo Matiz x 2 Liter water ~ 1 Liter water-hydrogen per 100 Km
The hybrid electric motor improvement with (capacitive ) double coil winding : 50% e-power savings
0,5 Liter water-hydrogen per 100 Kilometers.
KWh electricity consume per liter water to hydrogen/ oxygen splitting ?
Compensation through " regenerative braking":
This prototype gives in average 3 KWh regenerative braking power
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html (https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html)
https://web.archive.org/web/20050817192137/http://trinitymotors.net/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20050817192137/http://trinitymotors.net/)
The "POWERMAX" :
the motor for the vehicle ( by- tri- quad- cycle ) movement
and the on the same shaft
generator for the " water to hydrogen to water" cycle
first as it is later double winded : each rotor and each stator = 4x2 coils
Some improvement devices more ...... but world economy changes in small controled steps
Instead hydrogen " compressed a. dry b. wet air cycle" ......
volume density compression/expansion 1 Liter = 1800 Liter
volume density expansion/compression 1800 Liter = 1 Liter
Linde , Nobel- Prize Award : Air Liquide / Air Gasouse
Water. / ?
? / Elektronen- Gas ( Schroedinger)
also called Plasma
future : from alcohol fuels
Otto-/Diesel- engine : kontrollierte Explosionsmaschine
to modified
A.Nobel : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamit https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin
engines
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LANCAIV YOU HAVE DONE IT AGAIN GOOD RESEARCH,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdlfmiu_1qs
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THANKS FOR SHARING LANCAIV
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Thanks a lot, seychelles!
The given Fritzsche Hybrid - genset application :
3 Liter consume by 100 Km by 40% conversion efficiency
comparing with
http://gun-engine.pl/en/index.html (http://gun-engine.pl/en/index.html) up to 95% eff.
by prototype measurement
let us notice other alternatives for " multi-fuel engine"/ improved e-drive and < 1 Liter/ 100 Km consume optimization
Only Hydrogen ( relative aggressive to unmodified engine/ parts surface) or Hydro- Carbon as Syn-fuel/gas, waste-fuel/gas, bio-fuel/gas ( exhaust emission filtering : low/ no emission)
What is the consume from an "autonomous driverfree car", by 100% 24/365 velocity controle - Tempomat and Blackbox :strictly physical standpoint
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#)
written here is : 4 x 500W unmodified electric motors with average 1000 Wh consume
Plus electric motor energetic performance improvement like :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&ND=4# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&ND=4#)
Electric power consume less " regenerative braking power gain" : Net Zero Power Car / Surplus Power Car
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462) for electric actio/reactio( also called reactive) power cycle perfection
With "autonomous human driverfree drive" the Premium Class Cars will need 99% less nominal power rating. ! From > 300 KW to < 3 KW nominal/ rated
The " Premium drive system " cost per car ,transmission + 4 improved e-Motors : less 1000 Euros
Happy weekend
OCWL
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https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14813
the inventor does not write about the electrolysis energy need !
If efficient this technology changes the worldwide air transport sector :
beginning with small ultra-lighter
https://www.vortechonline.com/b1920/index.html
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https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiwo.de%2Funternehmen%2Fauto%2Fiaa2019%2Fiaa-vw-chef-herbert-diess-ueber-wasserstoff-autos-das-ist-einfach-unsinn-%2F25009062.html%3Futm_source%3Dpocket-newtab (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiwo.de%2Funternehmen%2Fauto%2Fiaa2019%2Fiaa-vw-chef-herbert-diess-ueber-wasserstoff-autos-das-ist-einfach-unsinn-%2F25009062.html%3Futm_source%3Dpocket-newtab)
Mister Diess disst hydrogen-ic-engines ! Not nice ! :'(
AUDI experiments since more than 15 years with Synfuels as technology bridge to hydrogen engines :
Fischer-Tropsch process as GTL and CTL or windfuel or sunfuel
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.watergas.nu/uploaded/Fischer%2520Tropsch_Su07Uhrig_3.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiM84_cidHkAhVBxoUKHeivDXUQFjAFegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1Nub8GFwojVrFiFLn2WKLu (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.watergas.nu/uploaded/Fischer%2520Tropsch_Su07Uhrig_3.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiM84_cidHkAhVBxoUKHeivDXUQFjAFegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1Nub8GFwojVrFiFLn2WKLu)
Carbon fuel cycle to later water fuel cycle
water to hydrogen as energy carrier processes :
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15165 (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15165)
and other dormant solutions :
https://patentauction.com/search.php (https://patentauction.com/search.php)
From BMW some information how to convert internal combustion engines for hydrogen use :
https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+ic-engine+to+hydrogen+conversion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+ic-engine+to+hydrogen+conversion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
At first for home hydrogen cogeneration-sets later on street use !
Other hydrogen( also ammonia= NH3) processes with extra gain : solid carbon( Graphit)
https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html (https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html)
https://overunity.com/14401/hydrogen-production-breakthrough/30/ (https://overunity.com/14401/hydrogen-production-breakthrough/30/)
Comparison different engines systems from CO2- emission-view and without CO2- capture :
Internal combustion engines with synfuels ~ international combustion engines with hydrogen ~ electric cars
All three engine types equipped cars have particulate ( fine dust )production :
from wheels,brakes and street surface abrasion
Related Investors in hydrogen technology with VW-interests :
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7816413/Hydrogen-fuel-car-to-be-tested-on-British-roads.html (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7816413/Hydrogen-fuel-car-to-be-tested-on-British-roads.html)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Spowers (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Spowers)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riversimple (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riversimple)
1,5 Kg hydrogen/ 300 miles ~ 250 mpg , 60 mph velocity max ~ > 100 Km/h
Calculating with 1,50 Euros/Kg hydrogen 2030 average selling price : 0,75 Euros/100 miles fuel costs
Similar : DIY
https://rqriley.com/diy-projects-plans/ (https://rqriley.com/diy-projects-plans/) with hydrogen engine or fuel cells
https://newatlas.com/suzukis-hydrogen-powered-crosscage-motorcycle/8243/ from 2007; assuming 2005 patent priority : 2030 low cost production for home e-hydrogen plants and City e-cars
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https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/046031491/publication/EP2690158A1?q=pn%3DEP2690158A1
After more than 6 years : granted. !
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP12859557&tab=main
A low-carb - on demand - fuel without pure hydrogen disadvantages !
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Hydrogen technology is the only technology that will be suitable for airplanes. This is what Stephen Meyers was saying in his very long interview.
There can be no competition with other free energy techs, it simply does not have the power of gas to propel the air frames.
Even the James Schwatz tech will never be enough.