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lancaIV

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2019, 01:06:31 PM »
https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+hydrogen+2000%25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
Nice electro-/ hydrolysis efficiency claims !

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14626
" Hydrogen from 2 Liter water sufficient for 100 Kilometers " claim, for this Daewoo Matiz example ( Daewoo now Chevrolet)
                    Instead 6 Liter Gasoline/Benzin 2 Liter water- hydrogen
                         
             Now calculation for hybrid cars/ ic- gensets

        Winfield Salisbury ic-engine to hybrid electro ic-genset claims instead 9 Liter fuel average consume per 100 Km reduction to 2,25 Liter per 100 Km.

This application "only" claims 50% ( Salisbury -75%) fuel savings by car to hybrid conversion :   

from 6 Liter/100 Km to 3 Liter/ 100 Km    https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1#

 3 Liter/ 6 Liter unimproved Daewoo Matiz x 2 Liter water ~ 1 Liter water-hydrogen per 100 Km

The hybrid electric motor improvement with (capacitive ) double coil winding : 50% e-power savings
                                                 0,5 Liter water-hydrogen per 100 Kilometers.

                                  KWh electricity consume per liter water to hydrogen/ oxygen splitting ?
                                               Compensation through " regenerative braking":
                           This prototype gives in average 3 KWh regenerative braking power
                           https://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/04/reva_introduces.html

                       https://web.archive.org/web/20050817192137/http://trinitymotors.net/     

                                                              The "POWERMAX" :           
                           
                                    the motor for the vehicle ( by- tri- quad- cycle ) movement       
                                            and the on the same shaft
                                   generator for the " water to hydrogen to water" cycle
                                  first as it is later double winded : each rotor and each stator = 4x2 coils

Some improvement devices more ...... but world economy changes in small controled steps



Instead hydrogen " compressed a. dry b. wet  air cycle" ......

                           volume  density           compression/expansion 1 Liter = 1800 Liter                           
       
                           volume  density           expansion/compression 1800 Liter = 1 Liter

Linde , Nobel- Prize Award : Air Liquide / Air Gasouse
                                                 Water.         /          ? 
                                                  ?                 / Elektronen- Gas ( Schroedinger) 
                                                                               also called Plasma

future : from alcohol fuels
Otto-/Diesel- engine : kontrollierte Explosionsmaschine
to modified
A.Nobel : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamit https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitroglycerin
 engines
« Last Edit: April 05, 2019, 04:01:21 PM by lancaIV »

seychelles

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2019, 09:14:43 PM »
LANCAIV YOU HAVE DONE IT AGAIN GOOD RESEARCH,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdlfmiu_1qs

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2019, 09:26:57 PM »
THANKS FOR SHARING LANCAIV

lancaIV

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2019, 10:08:48 PM »
Thanks  a lot, seychelles!

The given  Fritzsche Hybrid - genset application  :
3 Liter consume by 100 Km by 40% conversion efficiency

comparing with

http://gun-engine.pl/en/index.html         up to 95% eff.
by prototype measurement

let us notice other alternatives for " multi-fuel engine"/ improved e-drive and  < 1 Liter/ 100 Km consume optimization

Only Hydrogen ( relative aggressive to unmodified engine/ parts surface) or Hydro- Carbon as Syn-fuel/gas, waste-fuel/gas, bio-fuel/gas ( exhaust emission filtering : low/ no emission)


What is the consume from an "autonomous driverfree car", by 100% 24/365 velocity controle - Tempomat and Blackbox :strictly physical standpoint
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1#
written here is : 4 x 500W unmodified electric motors with average 1000 Wh consume

Plus electric motor energetic performance  improvement like :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?FT=D&date=20080812&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP&CC=US&NR=7411363B2&KC=B2&ND=4#

Electric power consume less " regenerative braking power gain" : Net Zero Power Car / Surplus Power Car

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=11462 for electric actio/reactio( also called reactive)  power cycle perfection

With "autonomous human driverfree drive" the Premium Class Cars will need 99% less nominal power rating. !                                                      From > 300 KW to < 3 KW nominal/ rated

              The " Premium drive system " cost per car ,transmission + 4 improved e-Motors : less 1000 Euros


Happy weekend
OCWL

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2019, 12:47:10 PM »
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=14813
the inventor does not write about the electrolysis energy need  !
If efficient this technology changes the worldwide air transport sector :
beginning with small ultra-lighter
https://www.vortechonline.com/b1920/index.html

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2019, 07:20:56 PM »
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wiwo.de%2Funternehmen%2Fauto%2Fiaa2019%2Fiaa-vw-chef-herbert-diess-ueber-wasserstoff-autos-das-ist-einfach-unsinn-%2F25009062.html%3Futm_source%3Dpocket-newtab
Mister Diess disst hydrogen-ic-engines  ! Not nice  !  :'(

AUDI experiments since more than 15 years with Synfuels as technology bridge to hydrogen engines :
Fischer-Tropsch process as GTL and CTL or windfuel or sunfuel
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.watergas.nu/uploaded/Fischer%2520Tropsch_Su07Uhrig_3.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiM84_cidHkAhVBxoUKHeivDXUQFjAFegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw1Nub8GFwojVrFiFLn2WKLu

Carbon fuel cycle to later water fuel cycle
water to hydrogen as energy carrier processes :

https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=15165
and other dormant solutions :
https://patentauction.com/search.php

From BMW some information how to convert internal combustion engines for hydrogen use :
https://www.google.com/search?q=bmw+ic-engine+to+hydrogen+conversion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

At first for home hydrogen cogeneration-sets later on street use  !
Other hydrogen( also ammonia= NH3) processes with extra gain : solid carbon( Graphit)

https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html
https://overunity.com/14401/hydrogen-production-breakthrough/30/

             Comparison different engines systems from CO2- emission-view and without CO2- capture :

Internal combustion engines with synfuels ~ international combustion engines with hydrogen ~  electric cars

      All three engine types equipped cars have particulate ( fine dust )production  :

                 from wheels,brakes and street surface abrasion 


Related Investors in hydrogen technology with VW-interests :
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7816413/Hydrogen-fuel-car-to-be-tested-on-British-roads.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Spowers
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riversimple

 1,5 Kg hydrogen/ 300 miles ~ 250 mpg , 60 mph  velocity max ~ > 100 Km/h
Calculating with 1,50 Euros/Kg hydrogen  2030 average selling price : 0,75 Euros/100 miles fuel costs


Similar : DIY

https://rqriley.com/diy-projects-plans/                with hydrogen engine or fuel cells
https://newatlas.com/suzukis-hydrogen-powered-crosscage-motorcycle/8243/ from 2007; assuming 2005 patent priority : 2030 low cost production for home e-hydrogen plants and City e-cars

« Last Edit: September 14, 2019, 11:14:00 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2020, 12:40:33 PM »

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Re: Why not ?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2020, 08:58:45 PM »
Hydrogen technology is the only technology that will be suitable for airplanes. This is what Stephen Meyers was saying in his very long interview.

There can be no competition with other free energy techs, it simply does not have the power of gas to propel the air frames.

Even the James Schwatz tech will never be enough.