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supersam

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Re: Vortex Magnet Motor
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2006, 09:53:40 PM »
dean thanks for the reply.

i think i understand where you are coming from with "king" kosol.  just an interesting concept.  in that it could solve alot of problems with the sticking point.  in that with a sphere mounted magnet set up you have all the benifits of the cone mounted magnet set up without having to physically move magnets up and down or in and out of influence. and you also take advantage of the other half of the equation.  the other side.

where have your magnets been placed when you have had your best results? like have you figured out what angles around a circle have worked best so far?

 i still can't help but find sticking points everywhere.

look forward to your reply.

sam
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dancingdevils

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Re: Vortex Magnet Motor
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2006, 07:16:20 PM »
dean:
i took a look at your machine it might work if you create a feild that is stonger by adding more twists. What about one row of declining magnets around the first large end of the cone, then make the next row follow both the first row of declining and the spiral.

it currently has row list as follows

1
3
4
6
4
3
 both sides

It might look like this in stacked magnetic

1 3 4 6 4 3
3 4 6 4 3 1
4 6 4 3 1 3
6 4 3 1 3 4
4 3 1 3 4 6
3 1 3 4 6 1


you can see in the row of threes this in a spiral should set up to turn.
I have a copy of one that i designed a couple of years ago, ill redraw it so that you can see what in talking about. Hope to post the drawing in a bit.


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dean_mcgowan

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Re: Vortex Magnet Motor
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2006, 09:42:50 AM »
DD,

Thats actually a very good idea, I am going to go back to working on this in the very near future, I had to wait for time and ofcourse money to prevail before attempting further, as the results initally were good except that the upward vector of force was not enough to keep the 2 cones seperated , though if i spun the device it had very little resistance overcoming the locking point till the 2 cones came closer in proximity.

Any magnet freaks out there want to give this a go please do as I am hoping people click on to the idea as it IMHO has some merrit.

Regards,

Dean
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CLaNZeR

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Re: Vortex Magnet Motor
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2006, 10:25:42 PM »
I like the PHI angle here I have been playing myself after looking at ancient pictures.

After watching a lecture one weekend at  conference by Crichton E M Miller  http://www.crichtonmiller.com
I spotted a slide he was presenting on wheels. and in amongst it was the Anazasi Serpent http://www.crichtonmiller.com/the_cross_and_the_serpent.htm

I spoke to Crichton after his lecture regards perpetual motion and he is a very open guy with some very unique angles that this could in theory be achieved, his outlook was based more on the wobble effect motion the same as planets rotate, but it still follows a rule. So interesting stuff.

I overlayed the PHI spiral on the Anazasi Serpent wheel and it a close match as shown below.

(http://www.cncdudez.com/Indiangolden.jpg)

Something I plan on working more with must admit.

Regards

Sean.
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dean_mcgowan

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Re: Vortex Magnet Motor
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2006, 12:10:16 AM »
Sean,

The phi spiral i use is first laid out as a 2d representation on the flat piece of paper on a 180 degree semi circle where the line of the phi spiral is split then matched up to the coordinates on the other (180) and then the paper is curled up into 3d space to form the cone (360).

Just in case that wasnt apparent ..

In relation to the serpants you may also want to look up the representation of the three rabbits in the perpetual mothion cycle. I think i saw this on jason martells website xfacts.com, though i personally think these representations are more art than they are confirmation of scientific theories.

Inspiring all the same.

Cheers,

Dean

Be Happy :D
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cwstang

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Re: Vortex Magnet Motor
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2007, 04:00:38 AM »
You could say this is the same idea as the magnetic "ramp" (with a twist) to add a little more angular momentum.  Bottom line is that it won't work any more than the ramps did.
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