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Author Topic: 3v OU Flashlight  (Read 563497 times)

Sergh

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #735 on: September 06, 2019, 08:05:29 AM »
Kolbasist, tell the author of the circuit on KT603A that he is Cat Basilio.

https://i9.banknn.ru/9dfbepofyfte3_gw7rwl.png
(from Soviet folklore)

kolbacict

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #736 on: September 06, 2019, 08:18:17 AM »
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A third-party radiation source is impossible because it is impossible to excite a closed core at a distance.
I agree with that.
Generation really is, if you apply a little power to different points.
even the LED lights up a bit.
but just take away the food, everything goes dead. :)

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rakarskiy

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #737 on: September 06, 2019, 09:02:06 AM »
My idea, a long-playing flashlight.
On a large core (not too long), wind the coil as follows:
excitation of L2 by a" thin " wire, taking into account the trigger L3, at the planned frequency, with periods up to the maximum saturation of the core.
Removable L1, simultaneously "flashlight", is made by section, the maximum possible, b wire in both halves, so that the reverse pulse voltage was 2 times greater than the excitation voltage. Capacity C1 selected according to the battery capacity and charged before starting the system. During ex, the battery is disconnected. C1 can be selected from three different tanks connected in parallel.
According to the already proven scheme, at the time of disconnection of the key current passes from the capacitor C1, through the winding L1, resistor R1, to the led and lights it. The spin of the current in the wire is close to zero. The field in the kernel also has a slight deviation from zero. In parallel, the current through the coil of the trigger L3 enters the base of the key, and it opens. When L2 is excited, the core is magnetized to the design state, at which point the key closes, and the core field is discharged into the capacitor C1 through L1, in the direction of self-induction inertia, according to Faraday current induction rules. The discharge voltage will depend on the formula for the EMF = V * W * L and the current formula I = EMF (L1) - U(C1) / R (L2)+ R(D1)+R (C1)
of course, the dynamics will drop to zero, and at some point the current will move from the capacitor along the chain through the led and the process will repeat.

Checking calculations.

Sergh

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #738 on: September 06, 2019, 09:50:17 AM »
It makes sense to wind the coil only on very unusual “cores”.
It would be interesting to use the Wiegand sensor as the core and secondary coil. For example, WG112:

https://belchip.by/sitedocs/wg.pdf

Raycathode

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #739 on: September 06, 2019, 10:10:22 AM »
Yeah right!  (Armedbrain and ratarsky) Explain where the Extra energy is coming from! all I can see is losses with your set up, exp;lain your coil winding and how you encounter the effects of skin effect, Also with the flywheel energy will be lost with spin up and down inertia ect and friction ect, etcetera and then there is lens laws ect, you were saying about gutters and bodily fluids ect, well drink your poison of your own choice and be merry as you do.

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rakarskiy

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #740 on: September 06, 2019, 10:14:29 AM »
It makes sense to wind the coil only on very unusual “cores”.
It would be interesting to use the Wiegand sensor as the core and secondary coil. For example, WG112:

https://belchip.by/sitedocs/wg.pdf

The sensor is necessary for more powerful devices. The principle of operation of static convectors on the use of their fields are shown in my post above. "Unusual" core is your term.

Raycathode

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #741 on: September 06, 2019, 10:31:06 AM »
That looks like basic ferrox years ago they used cores in computer memory with hysteresis many cores today no longer have that property
one way is to use magnetic material that's easy to 'flip' its polarity and wind a coil-over it to do so, or add a neo similar-sized device and use a coil and instead of flipping just turn the pair on and off. 

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rakarskiy

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #742 on: September 06, 2019, 10:44:20 AM »
Yeah right!  (Armedbrain and ratarsky) Explain where the Extra energy is coming from! all I can see is losses with your set up, exp;lain your coil winding and how you encounter the effects of skin effect, Also with the flywheel energy will be lost with spin up and down inertia ect and friction ect, etcetera and then there is lens laws ect, you were saying about gutters and bodily fluids ect, well drink your poison of your own choice and be merry as you do.

Raymondo

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The discharge voltage will depend on the formula for the EMF = B * W * L and the current formula I = EMF (L1) - U(C1) / R (L2)+ R(D1)+R (C1)
Use a core based on iron, calcined it in hydrogen. The smoother the hysteresis the better. The magnetic permeability of iron is very interesting.
In my version, the polarity change is asymmetric.


Sergh

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #743 on: September 06, 2019, 10:50:10 AM »
The sensor is necessary for more powerful devices.
You did not understand anything.
 Vigand sensor should be tried to use as a power unit. The output of the sensor (not the module) gives weak 2 volts 10 microseconds signal pulses. Microwatts. They should be tried to be used to power the device. In the sensor there is a small coil wound on a core made of a very specific alloy with amazing magnetic properties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiegand_effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barkhausen_effect

Although my forecast is pessimistic .. maybe, maybe not. this idea  may somehow turn out to be FE, if  come up with some special design of the magnetic field exciter in the sensor. For example, use a magnetization with a permanent magnet in conjunction with a resonant coil, which creates additionally weak magnetic field pulses.

rakarskiy

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #744 on: September 06, 2019, 11:19:08 AM »
Sergh, you have a receiver, but you lack a field. I just decided to get enough magnetic flux. According to this scheme, the battery was discharged about a day, on a conventional prefabricated ferrite.  I think a regular bolt with nut (annealed in fire) would be more effective than ferrite. What for? I'll leave it to you to sort it out.

kolbacict

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #745 on: September 06, 2019, 11:25:36 AM »
At least such a core can actually be induced from under the table
powerful transmitter.

rakarskiy

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #746 on: September 06, 2019, 12:20:44 PM »
At least such a core can actually be induced from under the table
powerful transmitter.

Of course, you can even insert a micro battery inside the winding, it will be easier.  :D ;)   
But this will not solve the problem of creating a real device.

Sergh

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #747 on: September 06, 2019, 01:38:36 PM »
I think a regular bolt with nut (annealed in fire) would be more effective than ferrite.
It will not be better. Even an annealed iron wire with a diameter of 0.8 millimeters for welding is bad as the magnetic core of a transformer.
Ordinary electrical steel for transformer cores is a complex product.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_steel
Special ferrites for transformer cores are high-tech products with minimal losses. Just do not use ferrites from the trash.

Of course, you can even insert a micro battery inside the winding, it will be easier.  :D ;)   
- people think that small watch batteries are hidden in transistors KT603A  :)

rakarskiy

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #748 on: September 06, 2019, 01:57:17 PM »
Who disputes, but there are such interesting data: ССЫЛКА
It all depends on the task, in our case, the material should rest on demagnetization.  :)

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Re: 3v OU Flashlight
« Reply #749 on: September 06, 2019, 02:15:22 PM »
High permeability - and what's the point?
Metglas alloy has even higher permeability than ultrapure iron, and low losses. Transformers on such cores don't produce free energy.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120206100947/http://www.metglas.com/products/page5_1_2_6.htm